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Originally Posted by chappers
Seeing as how I was the thread starter for this particular topic I feel some need to respond here.
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And since you started it, and I butted in, I owe you a response, I think.
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Originally Posted by chappers
I personally don't see how this thread is lacking any chivalry. In fact chivalry has got nothing to do with it. I just noticed that some of these "sex objects" do nothing for me. In our country and worldwide the objectification of women AND men happens daily regardless of fame,weatlh etc. Every day somebody oogles the guy or girl next door, in the checkout line, in the bar etc. I just stated that some of these supposed ravishing creatures may not really be all that appealing to some people's tastes. Hell, the one thing I think I could count on my ex-girlfriends to compliment me on was my chivalry. In fact that may just be just about the only thing they wouldn't complain about...Ha..Ha...Ha... This thread was meant only as a fun distraction and nothing more.
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Understood. In retrospect, I was reacting to the nastiness of a few replies, rather than the thread itself. There's an exponential difference between saying "I just don't see the appeal of this woman" and "I hate that horse-faced beast."
Add to that the weird fact that I dated a cousin of one of the ladies mentioned herein, and met the lass in question (finding her sharp-witted, warm, and enchanting overall), and actually had a very enjoyable make-out session with another of the named ladies years ago, just before her career really got going, and it becomes oddly personal. Knowing the lasses, sort of, I couldn't help defend them.
But then again, I might have spoken up even if I'd never had any contact. Probably would have.
I have a tendency to think of celebrities as just a bunch of people I don't know. A lot of them look pretty hot, and some seem like I'd like 'em in person, some not so much, but ultimately they're just people I don't know. What I see of them is all gossip and advertising, and I don't buy the illusion that I know any of these people well enough to actually comment on them as people. (Except when they actually screw up and show their real natures, like Russell Crowe bashing some guy in the face with a phone, which definitely says something about Crowe as a person).
In a forum like this, it's common to think of discussions as being like a bunch of guys sitting around the living room BS-ing. But in truth it's more like a bunch of guys sitting around a very popular cafe BS-ing, and they can be overheard by anybody. That cute little starlett who just went up to get a frappe may be hot, may not, depending on your opinion, and it's certainly not out of bounds to comment on and discuss that, but the oaf who broadcasts to the whole cafe his opinion that she's a skinny little hag is just being nasty.
It's generally not in my nature to viciously assess women anyway, unless they give me good reason (and the shape of their face isn't good reason). But even if it was, if I were posting about someone in the film industry, I'd have some awareness that it's not an impossibility that that person might just happen across one of the better sites covering that industry, and might even wind up reading my crude appraisal of them. And who knows what shit that person might have had to dig through to get where they are, what shit they may even now be digging through? Unless they give me reason to wish them ill, I don't want to add to their pains.
Of course, that's an extreme, and largely beside the point. I'm not the kind of guy who makes cruel comments on women's looks anyway, whether there's a chance they can hear or not.