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post #1 of 60
Thread Starter 
It's OK, but not that good. It's sort of boring, mostly because the brutality and violence gets so overwhelming that it's meaningless. The comedy sucks. Lots of tits.
post #2 of 60
Is this your review? And is it better than House of a 1000 corpses?
post #3 of 60
Thread Starter 
Yes, this is my whole review.
post #4 of 60
Nice....And such a quick response!

But if you would indulge me for a quick second....Is it a better movie than House of 1000 corpses?
post #5 of 60
Brutality, violence and tits and he says it's not that good. WTF?
post #6 of 60
I'm so there.
post #7 of 60
I actually used to really dislike devin's reviews but now have grown to absolutely love them. No other reviewer I know can give me so good an idea of how I'll actually view the picture.

The reason being, devin is such a fucking douchebag asshole with such horrid taste in films, I can now almost perfectly polarize his review and guess, with alarming accuracy, how I'll take the film.

If devin likes it, its complete worthless, meandering horse shit. If he hates it, its probably pretty damn good.
post #8 of 60
Oh, man. This is my favorite review ever.

I've only seen the opening, which I liked. Does the rest of the movie not live up to it, or did you dislike the shoot-out too?
post #9 of 60
Thread Starter 
I guess if I don't spurt jism all over a movie I didn't like it.

It's OK I said. Reading is fundamental.
post #10 of 60
Notice big D, I didn't specifically mention this review, or any specific review, I was solely referring to a general history of your reviews and making a broad statement in terms of my experience with them. So yes, reading is fundamental.
post #11 of 60
Thread Starter 
I didn't read your post.
post #12 of 60
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Originally Posted by devincf
It's OK, but not that good. It's sort of boring, mostly because the brutality and violence gets so overwhelming that it's meaningless. The comedy sucks. Lots of tits.
"They don't call him the best color man in the business for nothing, folks."
post #13 of 60
This movie looks good.
post #14 of 60
Um.... if this is the same Devin thats been around for years, back in 2001, when i was an every day visitor as Jacks...ill just say another person. I have to say i like your reviews dude, we often, well re used to agree alot, but ive been gone, ive changed alot, maybe you have too, i'll stick around and see.
post #15 of 60
I just want to know how it compares to the first. There were many people who have smart opinions that were lukewarm on the first, but I ended up loving it. The second one looks completely different and geuinely less fun and more affecting and disturbing.

But lots of tits sounds good to me!
post #16 of 60
Hard, fast and dirty is just my kind of flavor.
post #17 of 60
This was a great action film, not a horror film. Alot of gun splatter, and nudity from some good looking girls. Always a plus. They marketed this as a horror film, but it truly plays more like a Tarantino/Rodriguez action flick with more gore. Still a fun time at the movies. Much better than House.
post #18 of 60
I waited for House... to come to cable and was still felt like I spent more than I should have on it. I'll wait for Rejects to play cable and if it isn't any better than House... I may not watch his third movie at all. I wish he would return to music and leave the movies for those who know how.
post #19 of 60
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Originally Posted by devincf
I didn't read your post.
This, children, is how you do comedy. You should all be taking notes.
post #20 of 60
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Originally Posted by Duke, Raol
This, children, is how you do comedy. You should all be taking notes.
This, children, is how you kiss ass. You should all be disgusted.
post #21 of 60
Kissing ass on the Chud boards? Nah, say it ain't so!
post #22 of 60
While Devin comes across like a conceited little shitwad in virtually all his posts, at least he comes on the boards and says what he thinks. And he's a pretty decent writer. That's a lot more than can be said for Dreher.
post #23 of 60
They had a nice creepy clip on Conan this week. I may actually go see this.
post #24 of 60
Hell, I'm watching some clips of this on Yahoo right now. This shit looks creepy as hell.
Not like "scary creepy" but "Oh the humanity, did he just punch that poor hick woman in the face and kidnap her son, all the while cracking clown jokes creepy". Consider me there.
post #25 of 60
JYEAH!

I'm up for this shit. It looks damn fine to me.
post #26 of 60
It pulls some of its punches. But it's violent as hell.

Full length review will be up shortly.
post #27 of 60
post #28 of 60
Thread Starter 
post #29 of 60
I'm intrigued by the love you gave Mosley. He was kinda weak in Corpses. Speaking of which, you should watch that if for no other reason than to raise your opinion of Rejects.
post #30 of 60
I'm intrigued by what Zombie is going for, but the pain of sitting through 1,000 corpses still stings. And all the teenaged kids who came out proclaiming it was the absolute most, that stings even more. About Bill Mosley, I only say, Dog will Hunt.
post #31 of 60

unsafe...

The Devil's Rejects is far from a sophmore slump... furthermore I'd say it's a step in the right direction. I look forward to Zombie's 3rd outing behind the camera, though I kind of hope he brings in another writer at least to do a polish next time...

I enjoyed, against all expectations, House of 1,000 Corpses... I got overly excited in the days preceeding it's release, like most of us did: could it be true? Was it really the dawn of a New Age of horror? And then the backlash begain, and I waffled, and ultimately didn't see it in the theater.

When I finally saw it at home on DVD, my expectations were non-existent, but I was still curious... and I thought it was a fun diversion... a couple of beers and some popcorn and a somewhat silly, yet loving, tribute to 70's horror... I dug it, thought that the lead kids were pretty dull other than fishboy, and felt that Spaulding was underused... my Wife (who didn't sit through the picture) fell in love with Sid Haig on the merit of the interstitial material scattered across the DVD alone...

I thought Bill Mosley brought a terrific sense of menace to a barely fleshed out role, and enjoyed both Zombie's photography and his heavy usage of B-list character actors in cameos (Irwin Keyes, Pollard, etc) but I felt that the movie, at best, would remain a guilty-pleasure 1-shot... something to pull out and check out again in a few years time and wonder: "Too bad he never got a chance to make another movie, he showed potential."

I feel kind of the same way about The Devil's Rejects: I'm really excited to see what Zombie does next... but unlike House, which was formulaic to a degree (minus the last 15 minutes) The Devil's Rejects is not a "safe" movie.

With most genre flcks, it's easy to guess (intelligently or not) who is going to survive, who is going to Die Well, and who is going to Die Like A Bitch. With Devil's Rejects, I went in pretty sure that no one was safe, and within ten minutes, I was positive of it.

The cast was uniformly good, with Priscilla Barnes perf standing out as a career-high point. Ken Foree and Sid Haig were both amazing. Mosley was vile, and as long as you read Sheri Moon Zombie's Baby as a child's mind in an adult body (I think Baby is about 12 or so, developmentally) she works. I'm not trying to fan-wank the Director's wife as a good actress, but I think that was the effect they went for in the 1st movie, so I let it carry-over...

What I liked most about Devil's Rejects was that I didn't really "enjoy" watching the movie. It made me uncomfortable and when I did laugh (especially at the big moment Annika talks about), I felt guilty. There was definitely a bit of Last House On The Left in the movie, and it worked.

Beautifully shot, terrific soundtrack (I agree with Devin's review at Chud, as well as Annika's review at CC that the finale stretches out a bit too long) and while the movie may be a bit hard to swallow... it's intriguing.

Annika pointed out, and rightly I think, that the premise of a Cop Driven Over The Edge, to the point of the dusty old addage about "he who fights monster must beware not to become one himself blabbityblahcakes) is a terrific one, and could have been better. When you have Danny Trejo and DD Page showing up to be "The Unholy Two" you really expect them to be a bit more Unholy, and to pull Forsythe's Wydell along with them... but after set-up and a particularly nasty bit of work on some, more-or-less innocent, bystanders... the Unholy 2 bail out of the picture. It's obvious that Zombie wanted Wydell to really be the...well, not villain, but the obstacle for the Rejects, but it sort of wastes the potential.

I remember when Zombie leaked the premise two years ago or whatever, and said that the Firefly Fam went on the Run from the Cops, and ended up facing an even Worse bunch of Crazies than themselves...

Hell of a logline. I kind of wish that had been the movie I saw.

Still, I was fascinated by Devil's Rejects... I won't say I "liked" the movie. But I'll buy the DVD, and I'll definitely go see the next thing Zombie directs.
post #32 of 60
I was starting to decide I was disappointed until the ending. Y'know, when 'Free Bird' kicks in. Blew me away. I even was getting annoyed with it being so drawn out until I realized what was happening then it made it all worth it. I'm seeing it again tomorrow 'cause the guys I was supposed to see it with crapped out on me and are going tomorrow. No way was that gonna stop me from seeing this opening day.
post #33 of 60
i didnt like the ending

that kinda killed it for me

i liked ho1kc more, just cause it's more of a horror movie, and also i own the full, nc-17 version, which is so much better than the one that came into theatres
post #34 of 60
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Originally Posted by El Steve-O
i didnt like the ending

that kinda killed it for me

i liked ho1kc more, just cause it's more of a horror movie, and also i own the full, nc-17 version, which is so much better than the one that came into theatres
That's odd 'cause everything I've read concerning that has had Rob Zombie saying that it pretty much doesn't exist. Only thing I've heard is there's a version with a few slightly different cuts of some scenes that weren't even particularly violent and like, an added little scene of Mary and the other girl in the bathroom at Spaulding's. Is this the one you have?
post #35 of 60
I thought it was damn fine. I wasn't expecting any sort of masterpiece so I guess that's why I wasn't dissapointed. A few bits were drawn out a bit too much, kind of like the way movies were paced maybe 30 years ago. That could have been something Zombie did on purpose, who knows.

I agree that he did pull some punches, but holy fuck, if he followed through with a few of them even the most desensitised person on this planet would have flinched. This would probably mean people would have ended up feeling very uncomfortable watching the movie. I'm not so sure being uncomfortable watching a movie would be a good thing for this particular film though. Sure it works for Last House, but this movie is already a little over the top and there is such a thing as going too far.

It would have been nice to see some more of Danny Trejo and Diamond Dallas Page though. Perhaps in another project.

Kickarse movie.
post #36 of 60
The only film I've ever wanted to end more than this was Van Helsing. No plot, no character development, no fun. I would never have believed that such a brutal movie could be so unrelentingly dull. Truly dreadful.
post #37 of 60
It might have been heartless, a bit brutal, and a bit thin on any character development, but i'll be damned if i didn't enjoy it. I remember seeing House of 1000 Corpses with a group of friends and being the only one who really enjoyed it. I think had i went with the same people again, this would have been the same result. It was well worth the money, and the time. A shame that a lot of people who might enjoy this one will be turned off by 1000 corpses, two completely different films.
post #38 of 60
House of 1000 corpses was total shit, but this was a huge step in the right direction.
post #39 of 60
I loved it. No doubt about it. If I see a movie more than once in the theater, I usually wait awhile between first and second viewing but dayum, I HAD to see this one again as soon as possible so I went back the next day and it was still as great as the first. I will NEVER be able to listen to FREE BIRD the same way again.
post #40 of 60
I thought it was worse than Corpses. That movie sucked too, but at least it had some pleasing stylistic moments. The one thing I vagueley enjoyed was the sheriff torturing the retards, sorry, rejects. They should just have had him torture them to death, end of movie. Would have made up for Zombie torturing us with this beyond amateur snooze-fest. Please, God, if you do exist somewhere up there....

Don't let Rob Zombie make any more movies.
post #41 of 60
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Originally Posted by birdie
torturing the retards, sorry, rejects. .
I like how he disguised his insult of the characters as a mistake. Very clever indeed.

I can completely see why people just flat-out hated it, but I liked it a lot. The first time I was unsure of wether I liked it or not (except for the ending. I LOVED the ending.) but the second time I saw it all the problems I had with it weren't nearly as apparent or simply didn't exist. It's weird 'cause usually the first time I watch a movie it seems to drag for me, but upon repeat viewings it paces much better and this was one of those instances and it made all the difference in the world (and the ending was 1000x better when it didn't feel like it was dragging as much). It's like the tension of waiting to see what comes next makes it feel longer so when you see it again that doesn't happen.
post #42 of 60
I personally am anxious to see what Zombie will do next now that he has to move on from the only set of characters that the fans know. I think it will be interesting to see Zombie possibly build a new mini-franchise or take his work into a different direction altogether. Zombie is a huge horror buff, as is evident by his first two films. I think if he wants to continue with the genre he will have a lot of interesting things he can do with it, and a lot of material to reference and pay homage to.

This film got away from the straight horror aspects a bit, and worked incredibly well. It was just a good old vengence action flick with a taste of the horror atmosphere thrown in. A great departure from House of 1000 Corpses, and hopefully just a taste of what else is in store from Zombie.
post #43 of 60
What an awesome film! Rob Zombie really delivered in terms of knowledge of the horror-vigilante genre and he showed some deft filmmaking such as with the opening titles, music, plot-turns, color palette, and camera work. It was exciting to see Zombie altering the tone of the story from "House of a 1000 Corpses" and what it did was reveal different layers of his characters without compromising their integrity. What really motivates the film are the actors and homages to the genre as the filmography of each actor was adding little touches to their character. This film almost was "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Part 2" with the "Lefty"-like "Sheriff Wydell" driving the vigilante aspect, and it was a delight to see all those cult actors such as Bill Moseley, Sid Haig, Danny Trejo, William Forsythe aka "Flattop", Michael Berryman, and Ken Foree burning the celluloid together. Moseley, who plays one of my favorite characters of all time, "Chop-Top", was menacing yet showed a comedic softness in some parts, as did Sid Haig, who looked like a comic-book character with his make-up and physicality. In fact, the movie played like a graphic novel, with the facial expressions, switching of plot-lines and camera angles.
post #44 of 60
Nice that this just got bumped as I've got the DVD (uncut) ready to go in my player right now. I just have to get my pizza (in the oven) warmed up and It's gonna start up.

A few more shots of rum won't hurt the mood I'm sure. I've been looking forward to this movie for a while now.

Yahoo! I'm going in!
post #45 of 60
Look for Zombie's interview with http://www.theonion.com 's AV Club in their archives. IIRC he says he doesn't have much interest in doing any more horror movies.

If you want more of the characters, look for his Spookshow International comic. It's like a Tales From The Crypt, only more outlandish and much more tongue-in-cheek. Some awesome Dr. Satan stuff for sure. El Superbeasto, a regular character from Spookshow is going to be the subject of Zombie's next movie. He's working with 'the guy who does Spongebob', and I assume he means Stephen Hillenberg.

The Nail was a mini-series with Steve Niles he did that kicked a lot of ass. Only complaint was the abrupt ending. Haven't picked up his Big Foot comic (also with Niles) yet, but really want to.
post #46 of 60
It was pretty good. Mostly great acting and its shot very well. The movie could have been shorter, but it would have been better if the sheriff killed 'em all. Go a little deeper into the cops rampage. He should have found Tiny in the evidence and knew he was out there. I was waiting for his reappearance for the whole movie, and then what - he kills the sheriff and then self explodes?
post #47 of 60
This was one of those movies that frustrated me, not because of anything having to do with it's quality, but because it's damned near impossible to explain why it's worth seeing.

I had the same thing with Hustle and Flow. People heard the title and assumed it was dumb.
post #48 of 60
The filmmaking improvement shown from "Corpses" to "Rejects" was amazing. If Zombie keeps this up, I might actually end up up flat-out liking his movies.

My opinion(as if anyone gives rat's ass)...
1,000 Corpses 3/10 He gets points for the intensity of the ending, and the drrrrawwwwn out crane shot. Unfortunatly it was lit like one of his crappy videos.
Devil's Rejects 6/10 Soooo much better. I actually enjoyed this enough to watch it a few times.
post #49 of 60
Bumping to get rid of fascist spam.
post #50 of 60
You're confusing me, Dan.
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