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PS3 to sell for $399, will cost Sony $494

post #1 of 14
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06...s_6128295.html

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Report: PS3 to sell for $399, cost $494 to make
Merrill Lynch Japan predicts Sony will lose more than $1 billion on hardware during its next-gen console's first year on the market--a sum it may not be able to recoup.

According to the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, Merrill Lynch Japan Securities has recently calculated an analysis that the production of a single PlayStation 3 console will cost Sony approximately 54,000 yen to make ($494), as of its initial release in 2006.

Merrill Lynch Japan estimates that the machine's main components--namely its Cell chip, RSX, and BD-ROM drive--will cost about 11,000 yen ($101) each. After adding the other electronics that will be used in the PS3, the machine's production cost goes up to 54,000 yen.

Given that Sony's PS3 will face stiff competition from Microsoft's Xbox 360, the chances that Sony will release its console at its production cost is slim. Under the assumption that the Xbox 360 is expected to sell at around $299, Merrill Lynch Japan predicts that Sony will sell each PS3 at the price of 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan and $399 in America. That would mean Sony would suffer a loss of more than 130 billion yen ($1.18 billion) during the first year of the PS3's release.

By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 yen ($364) in Japan and $299 in America when it launched in 2000. During its first year of release, Sony Computer Entertainment suffered a loss of 51.1 billion yen ($458 million), but it recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion yen ($759 million), followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the year after.

It is normal for game companies to take a loss on hardware whenever a new console launches, since they typically focus on acquiring market share rather than generating a profit during the first year. During the second year and afterward, they can recover the losses with the savings that come from mass production and with licensing fees from publishers.

However, Merrill Lynch Japan warns that the normal console business cycle may be disrupted if Microsoft cuts the Xbox 360's price when the PlayStation 3 launches. The report goes on to say that such a move could hurt Sony's plans, bringing an additional loss of 80 billion yen ($730 million) in its second year and 50 billion yen ($457 million) in its third year. Thus far, Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83 billion) into development and production for the Cell chip alone.

Toyo Keizai goes on to interview Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi, who avoided revealing the PS3's price but hinted that it would not be marked down excessively. "Whether consumers think a product is expensive or cheap all depends on the balance between its appeal and price," he said. "Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to themselves, 'OK, I'll work more hours and buy it.' We want people to feel that they want it, no matter what."

"When Nintendo was selling its 16-bit machine at around 12,500 yen ($114), we sold the first PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($364)," continued Kutaragi. "The press was saying that it was expensive, but it was a huge hit. It's the same thing with the PlayStation Portable from last year. The Game Boy Advance is a same handheld gaming machine, and it costs less than 10 thousand yen ($91). On the other hand, our PSP had cost 25,000 yen ($229). But people lined up overnight to buy it, and it sold out on the day of its launch. It all depends on whether people want it. Of course, I'm confident that the PS3 is a product that people will definitely want."
I was thinking they'd go for $499 ...
post #2 of 14
Analyst speculation, no real price information yet.
post #3 of 14
Sony claims it will launch in Japan at a 349 price point or something, apparently.

What's hilarious is that the cell and xbox 360 processors are allegedly WAY slower than pentium 4s and athlons. Like, the xbox360's triple core 3.2ghz ibm processor (in real world terms, not flops) is apparently about twice as fast as the xbox's 733mhz celeron for most applications. Same with the cell, only potentially worse. Intensive multithreading is just not ready for prime time.

Oh well! The GPUs in both are supposed to be excellent.
post #4 of 14
good article. Even though its merely speculation, its probably pretty close to the truth.
post #5 of 14
Sony will find ways of cutting costs once they start producing these things ten-fold.
post #6 of 14
I am going to reiterate, a 400 dollar console launching price will be a horrible decision on Sony's part. You know they have to expect MS to either cut the Xbox 360 price to a sub 300 dollar tag the day of the ps3 launch or launch halo 3 OR do both to combat sony.

Even if Sony has some sort of killer App on launch day, one extra controller, one game (assuming game prices do go up next gen) would easily be a 500 dollar purchase in one sitting. I don't see that working.

I don't think the consumer market is willing to shell out 4 bills for a console. I know I sure as hell aint.
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Originally Posted by Fazer

I don't think the consumer market is willing to shell out 4 bills for a console. I know I sure as hell aint.
Especially since the Xbox and PS2 are far from having outlived their usefullness. I, as are many others, still perfectly happy buying the latest and greatest games and giving my present console a workout. I see PSP trend coming for these new consoles: extremely high sales for a couple of weeks and then a sharp drop-off once all of the nerds have picked up their shiny new consoles on the first day.
post #8 of 14
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For me the price is not too bad, if I see it also as a Blu-Ray player. I'm waiting for HD movies to justify buying an HD set, and this is going to give me a good excuse.
post #9 of 14
I'd even be seriously wait-and-see on it as an HD player. The PS2 was a DVD player in name only--regular use of its DVD capabilities destroyed the system. The only thing worse than buying a $400 system is buying another one.
post #10 of 14
and you'd think for $400 I would get a harddrive too. No way...
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by Count Floyd
The PS2 was a DVD player in name only--regular use of its DVD capabilities destroyed the system.
I used mine all the time for years and my PS2 still runs great.
post #12 of 14
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My PS2 was my primary DVD player until I replaced it with a cheap Apex. I still use it today (it's better than my Philps DVD player).
post #13 of 14
The companies make up the money lost on the consoles, by selling the games for $50-$60 apiece right?
post #14 of 14
Yup.
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