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OK, so, I bought a new XBox yesterday, therefore replacing the shitty first gen one with the Thompson DVD drive that was causing me so much pain in recent months. Opened it, hooked it up, plays all the newer games just fine and dandy (still don't know why we need to see the word "Loading" in San Andreas).

So, as I prepared to make the jump from the first XBox to the new one, a horrible realization was made.

The realization that not only are custom soundtracks unable to be saved to a memory card to be transferred (which isn't so bad, considering that the new drive burns songs infinitely faster than the last one)....but so are a shitload of games. The most heartbreaking of which being KOTOR.....there's a combined total (Between the good guy Jedi I beat the game with, and the Sith witch I was 21 hours into going on a total Dark Side rampage with before Episode III came out) of about 70 hours worth of gameplay that I'm now going to lose because Microsoft, for reasons I don't quite comprehend, won't let me save it to the memory card (and for the record, I bought a 32MB card, so space isn't the issue.). In the same boat are Ninja Gaiden, Halo 1, my Halo 2 Game Save (weirdly enough, my custom games and my profile were savable), Jade Empire, Shenmue II, and Burnout 3 (also heartbreaking considering how hard I had to work to pass the time challenge with that piece of crap Classic Hot Rod).

So my questions are threefold:

1: WHY?!

2. What will this mean for the 360? Granted, it looks like most current XBox games won't be playable on that damn thing anyway, but what's going to happen if people can't bring their saves for those playable games over to the new system?

3. Finally, on a slightly off-topic note....I was hopeful I'd get a Samsung DVD drive in the new XBox, since apaprently that's the best one....and I followed this picture to try and figure out which drive I had:



And the verdict is: None of the above. The tray I have is shaped like the Thompson, but the hole is a lot wider. And no, it's not a Thompson, made obvious by the fact that it actually WORKS. Dunno if anybody knows what it is, but while I've got the opportunity, might as well ask....
post #2 of 7

Similar Problem

Something similar to that happened to my 1st gen Xbox last year. I had the extended warranty so I sent it off to have the crappy drive replaced - but not before attempting to back up my saves to memory card. Fat chance, I could only fit a couple - so I grudgingly and hesitantly sent it off hoping all the stuff I'd read about their commitment to saving the data was true.
Of course the Xbox came back totally blank (more then 3 years of game data, poof!) and my email questions/complaints were never responded to. Gotta love M$, what would we do without them. Looks like the HDD in the 360 will be removable, maybe that concept could have saved all my stuff !

Edit: I think my old one was the Thomson, the new one is Samsung. I miss my KOTOR!
post #3 of 7
I had the very same problem. Just recently about a month ago traded my used system for a new one.

I passed Ninja Gaiden on Normal and Hard and I have to do it again. Thankfully I love the game.

Rest of the stuff is coming easy enough although I have to update my NFL 2K5 roster dammit.
post #4 of 7
same thing happened to me. I got frustrated because i was trying to understand why in the fuck MS decided that Ninja Gaiden, KOTOR, and X-men legends didnt have to be transferrable. Meanwhile, other useless bullshit games (87.4% of X-BOX library) are compatible with no problems...
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Originally Posted by Crow
In the same boat are Ninja Gaiden, Halo 1, my Halo 2 Game Save (weirdly enough, my custom games and my profile were savable), Jade Empire, Shenmue II, and Burnout 3 (also heartbreaking considering how hard I had to work to pass the time challenge with that piece of crap Classic Hot Rod).
I haven't had any problems with Halo saves, maybe it's just me. If I copy my Halo or Halo 2 profile(with a game in progress) and move it to another Xbox it picks up right where I left off. But you mentioned your profile, so I'm not sure what you're talking about I guess.

I've bitched about this to people I know, only to have them come back with "what's the point of a memory card? It's got a hard drive?". It's very annoying. If I want to play DOA Ultimate or Burnout 3 at a friends house(with everything I've unlocked), it's a bit simpler to carry the game and a memory card over there instead of lugging my Xbox.
Microsoft really dropped the ball on that one. They're making lots of things mandatory for developers on Xbox 360, hopefully memory card compatibility is one of them. On the plus side(not much of a plus but still), at least they let you know if a game is compatible with the memory card on the back of the box. Not that it helps, at all.

Say I bought a new Xbox, and took out the hard drive of the old one to put in the new one. Are there any negatives that could arise from this? Keep in mind I know how to take it apart safely, and have opened it a few times to clean it.
post #6 of 7
I think you should be able to swap the hard drives quite easily with no problems. Long as they're both locked and formatted properly (which they have to be if you haven't modded), I don't believe it will give you any trouble. And if it does, just swap it back. No harm in trying. It's actually not that complex inside those things.
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Originally Posted by Doug Graham
I think you should be able to swap the hard drives quite easily with no problems. Long as they're both locked and formatted properly (which they have to be if you haven't modded), I don't believe it will give you any trouble. And if it does, just swap it back. No harm in trying. It's actually not that complex inside those things.
Thanks.
Yeah I haven't modded anything, although I have to admit I'm tempted. I was mainly concerned about the possibility of memory loss.
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