LOST: Season 2 - Page 69

thx very much

Agree. I'm pretty sure the others already gained what they longed for or they found out one of their captives is even stronger than Walt. Robot Walt clones? I can't believe that.

Or can I? It was highly suspicious seeing Walt numbed down on the boat... I wouldn't be surprised to see the real Walt in season III's opener. Would make you think who else went with Michael...

I doubt we'll ever see Walt again seeing as only 2 1/2 monts passed on the Island and the kid grew 2+ years in real life. I'm sure the Others will talk about what they did with him but not show it. Well maybe if they have him sitting down doing the tests in flashback but that's about it.

Unless they already filmed his scenes over the past couple years for future episode flashback populating...

Bullshit. They had to know that kidnapping him would cause the survivors to try and get him back. If they didn't, then they are fucking morons. I think the "more than we expected" line referred to Walt's powers being much greater than they thought.

Either way, they know Walt will make it back to the island soon enough.

I made this gif today. What do you guys think?



the application I dowloaded wont let me change the coloring, or the errors. Anyone know how to do that.

EDIT: My new avatar is the best I could manage, given my little knowledge of gif animation. I cropped the widescreen portion out of each image individually in order to reach the tiny ass file size.

So what do you guys think:
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The new? .... or .... the old?

I feel there's a certain perfect-ness to the old avatar, but I've also had it since I joined, basically.

Maybe it's just my comp, but the new avatar makes Locke look like he's doing the funky chicken. Or possibly doin' the nasty to someone just offscreen.

Uh, they shot Sawyer and blew up the raft. I don't think they were expecting survivors to make it back to the island to tell about the kidnapping.

so I changed the icon back -- after the novelty of the new one wore off, I saw the error of my ways.

Thanks for the feedback. I don't see the chicken dance, but I'm sure its a product of me manually cropping each frame--its the pan and scan of gif animations. For my own edification, does everyone else see the head bobbing dramatically, too?

Yes I see it as well... Locke's chicken is quite funky.

Yup.

Agreed. I got the impression that The Others were just tired of having to deal with the Losties, particularly after they made that "truce" with Jack. The capture and torture of "Henry" as well as the multiple search parties distracted The Others from their tasks (whatever those might be) -- and possibly put their initiatives in jeopardy -- to the point where The Others just didn't want to deal with them anymore. So they cut a deal with Michael (Walt for Jack, Kate, Sawyer) and sent Hurley back with the message to just leave them be. I'm not saying that Walt didn't prove to be a handful as well -- Bea's (or Dee or whatever her name is) questioning of Michael about Walt does seem to indicate they weren't getting the information they wanted reagarding his (special?) abilities. But there was something in the way "Henry" talked about the situation that made me feel as if he was just fed up with having to deal with the Lostaways.

i haven't seen anyone else mention it, but what about the statement "henry" made to michael, "we're the good guys." if the others are really the good guys, then who are the bad guys? its pretty sure that the plane survivors aren't them or at least considered as such by the others. i think that next season we'll see that the others aren't what the plane survivors think.

We talked about it back in the beginning of the season when Goodwin told Ana Lucia the same thing and again when Henry mentioned it several other times while captured in the hatch. The notion of "good/bad" needs to be explored next season.

Another reason Jack, kate, and Sawyer might have been abducted is that they all share the quality of self-righteousness. Think about it, their flashbacks have all been defined by the three superceeding authority or law, and doing what they thought was right (do the surgery, kill the step-dad, avenge the parents).

Perhaps these are qualities the other's actually look for when recruiting or whatnot.

I think we're looking into this "good guys" statement too much. When telling a story, doesn't a well-written bad guy believe that he/she is doing something good/right? The Others may be doing something they feel is good/right, but in the eyes of the viewers and Losties, it may be viewed as bad/wrong.

The show is awesome but I am disappointed about one of my fvaorites being killed off.=(

Exactly. The way everyone from the Others' camp we've met has had the same "we're/I'm a good person" mentality, even when they're killing and attacking the survivors. My guess is they're a cult of some kind, brainwashed into performing violent acts while thinking it's justified because someone told them it's what "He" wanted.

Not too far of a stretch if you ask me...

I think everyone acknowledges that that is a possibility, if not an inevitability. The Others are supposed to be bad, as far as we've been led to believe.

I think people were just hypothesizing about the other possibilities, since this show is about subverting expectations.

Personally, I think its an interesting notion that the Others might not be so bad, in the grand scheme of things. Dharma's green peace, so to speak (or maybe disgruntled former employees). But that dharma or someone/thing else are the bigger, more evil fish to fry.

But, no matter what the truth is, I think it would be impossible for us to look at them as anything but bad. Now maybe we'll eventually look at them as thugs or mindless baddies (in comparison to the big fish), but I don't think we'll ever look at them as "good".

At least I hope not. Innocent-neck-snappers don't usually go in my good book.

The whole thing about the Others saying they are the good guys is a non-issue to me. EVERY group of people that did horrible things thought they were the good guys. The Nazis thought they were outstanding folks.

I don't know if this is legit or not, but on the Lost Media forums, someone has posted the titles of the first six episodes

- SPOILERS - (Highlight to read)

Season 3 - Titles

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[03x01] The Road Less Traveled
4. October 2006:
Flashback: Jack Shephard
Autor: Damon Lindelof
Directed by: Jack Bender

[03x02] Somewhere Only We Know
11. October 2006:
Flashback: Kate Austen
Autor: Edward Kitsis and Carlton Cuse
Regie: Stephen Williams

[03x03] Scorched
18. October 2006:
Flashback: James "Sawyer" Ford
Autor: Carlton Cuse
Regie: Paul Edwards

[03x04] Was Blind, But Now I See
25. October 2006:
Flashback: Mr. Eko Tundi
Autor: Adam Horowitz
Regie: Jack Bender

[03x05] Buried Alive
1. November 2006
Flashback: John Locke
Autor: Damon Lindelof
Regie: Dan Attias

[03x06] The Way We Were
8. November 2006
Flashback: Tom "Zeke" Patterson
Autor: Carlton Cuse
Regie: Paul Edwards

Probably bullshit, but the possibilities are interesting.

We don't need the first two. Unless they give us information that is dramatically different from the last eleventeen times we've seen them get featured, I'd be happy if I never saw anything else about either of those two for the next fewyears. The other titles have me pretty damn excited, particularly the last!

I hear ya, diva, but I wonder if this is, again, the writers attempt to re-infuse mystery or excitement into these two characters.

Personally, I don't mind it, because the first two episodes I'll be completely caught up in the present storyline. So whatever.

But I really like the ideas that spring to mind when I read the last episode's info.

So would these 6 be that first third of the airing schedule?

Here's a great site that has .pdf copies of the scripts for certain episodes:

www.pressEXECUTE.com

As of now, they have:
"Two for the Road" is an especially good read, as it has some alternate scenes, and it also concretely defines the writers intentions, as far as michael's emotions/actions in the last few minutes' bloodbath.

Also, the site creator says "?" should be coming very soon (although there's no specific timeframe-he just has to wait for his source to send them). Personally this one has me most excited, as it was written for aronofsky.

Great site, and an under-appreciated thing this guy's doing.

Check it out y'all.

Walt wont be coming back because it was obvious from kick off of season 2 that the lad had had a huge growth spurt, and they tried to hide it as much as possible. They've simply written him out to avoid this problem (maybe he'll return in a couple of seasons time with a different actor, it wouldn't be so jarring for the audience then).

When NotHenry says along the lines of "we got more than we bargained for", I took that to mean how much trouble the Losties caused them to get him back. They didn't think they could be found, but they were.

NotHenry wanting the button to not be pushed made no sense to me, as he could've easily accomplished this by just leaving Locke and not pushing the button.
It's all to do with Locke, not the button. He said he was coming to take Locke, but unfortunately he was captured first. He could've just left the button if that is their main cause but he stook around because he wanted to help Locke, he sees him as one of the good ones.

The button not being pushed claim by him to Locke was one last test for Locke. Did he pass? Who knows...

Lost and Eko are fine (and Charlie "hating" them is bullshit). Charlie says with genuine surprise "they're not back yet?", meaning he expected them back well before himself. I guess this means they've gone off on their own little adventure that we have not learned about yet. It probably occured off camera and we'll learn about that when the new season begins.

I don't think there was anything to read into Charlie and Claire being friendly with each other at the end. I think they writers just wanted one happy ending type tie off there, but it came off out of place to be honest.

That's about all I can think of at the moment. I agree that we should not have seen the outside world as I think it's going to ruin the mystery of the island.

However, we're not aware of the full facts yet so let's see where they take this, it might not be what we think.

Couple of thoughts:

There's been discussion and gossip that the actor playing Walt shot a bunch of stuff for the future. So its not necessarily true that he'll be written out, and we might see the actor again.

NotHenry NOT pushing the button makes perfect sense to me. Did you see the finale this season? If he had any idea what might happen down there, he would know NOT to be there when it wasnt pressed. So he would want to trick the castaways into not pressing it, which is exactly what he did.

they should just write into the show that the Others did something to Walt with drugs, mysticism or whatever to make him age faster. THat would actually be kind of cool to see.

No that doesn't make sense as he didn't have to be around when the button wasn't pushed. After escaping he could've just got off on Locke and back into the jungle, I believe he came back solely for Locke. He then decided to test him, maybe to see if he was still worth taking, that I don't know...

Does this mean something to anyone else?

And everything I said makes perfect sense.

EDIT: I think I get what you mean-- Henry could have gone into the vent, gotten out on the other side, and just left?


If this is what you mean, it actually doesn't make sense, as the vent, as far as we know, leads between the dome room and the kitchen/armory/pantry where henry and kate entered it (season 2, episode 2,3,&18). And the dome room was also sealed off, as the finale this season shows. So he couldn't have just magically gotten out, at least not until after the doors went back up, at which point the button is pushed or not.

And further, I don't think henry could have gotten far enough away from the effects of the pulse or whatever. Locke sent him into the vent with like 30 seconds left on the timer. Assuming Gale knew what the button did, he CERTAINLY would not have risked it. Gale would have done exactly what he did - Plant doubt into the button-pushers' minds, and let them push it once your dead or gone.

But I still don't think Gale had any idea what not pushing it would do. The event seems too cataclysmic, and there's been no word that Gale knew there was a failsafe. While I know this last point is debatable, I find it hard to believe even an Other would actively pursue the detonation of that Electromagnetic pulse, or whatnot. (Note: Carlton Cuse was quoted after the finale saying that if the failsafe wasnt activated, the world would have collapsed in on itself.)

And finally, there's been no indication that they test those they feel are good (at least not pre-capture), so I don't know why he would have been testing Locke.

from darkhorizons.com and PR inside:
Personally I don't like this idea. Maybe they have some big budget extravaganza planned, but otherwise I'd really prefer if they'd keep the show to one medium.

Kinda dumb, considering they will alienate everyone except Lost fans since the average Joe will have no clue on what's going on.

And if they do spend some of the movie catching people up on the story, then it will just be a big mess.

On another note, I've completely lost interest in this show. I love the show, but it's out of my mind, thus making the wait until October much easier. Back when I was completely into the show, October seemed like such a long wait.

Having listened to a few of the LOST podcasts while working, I gotta give Damon and Co props for sticking to their guns. They usually don't introduce ideas into the LOST mythology without know the resolution beforehand. I imagine that if they are floating the idea of a LOST film, they have a good idea for what its going to be about. (Maybe Darren Aronofsky will direct it.) Also going on record with the 5 season cutoff shows that they don't want to string the audience along indefinitely.

More news (specifically the highlighted section):

link



Can't remember if it was known the first block was going to be exactly six, so I highlighted it anyway.

Glad to hear JJ is really on board this year. But I wonder why he would get heavily involved now, only to abandon it next year.

And I'm still wary of the mid-season hiatus. I think I might prefer an inverted version of this schedule; the first 16 episodes before the hiatus, followed by the final six-to-eight eps during May sweeps.

That way, the ratio of weeks off, to weeks with new episodes, would be more in wack. 17-19 weeks off over summer, so a larger block of new episodes when they come back in october. Less weeks off during hiatus (13), so less new episodes upon their return.

I'd much rather wait and then have them show all of the episodes without interruption. A pipe dream, I guess.

In other news, I've heard that Malin Akerman (most recently the threesome chick in the newest episode of Entourage, and Freakshow's Wife in "Harold and Kumar...") is heavily in the running for the character "Female, 20s, very attractive" being added to the cast next season.

Supposedly she's shooting a movie so it doesn't sound likely.