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Rockstar already in hot water over next game, "Bully"

post #1 of 17
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Parental groups proclaim "There's nothing good on TV!" - decide to start protesting left and right

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In the beginning, there was Hot Coffee. And it was hot.


The Hot Coffee fuss surrounded a dormant piece of hot-to-trot game code that was able to be unlocked on all versions of the best-selling, M-rated Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. That small gift to gamers put Take-Two in hot water with the industry's voluntary ratings board, the ESRB. Last month, the board revoked the game's M rating, rerated the product AO, and forced the game's parent company to pull existing copies (or supply retailers with AO stickers) and manufacture new game discs with the mod-induced sex games deleted.

Of course, stores could still sell the newly rated game, but few did, given long-standing policies of most major retailers not carrying AO-rated games.

Cost of the Hot Coffee episode? $40-50 million for Take-Two. Ditto that amount for the industry.

There are a few recent developments in the ongoing saga of Take-Two and its portfolio of M-rated products (although it's worth mentioning, this is a company that sells more than just M-rated games...Global Star Software, a publishing label of Take-Two publishes the E-rated Leaping Lizards!, among other games rated for all ages).

A day after one Florence Cohen dropped docs on the game publisher in US District Court, a second consumer did the same. Both complaints seek to establish a class of plaintiffs that charge Take-Two with a number of malevolent acts, including Consumer Deception, False Advertising, and Common Law Fraud (all based on New York State General Business Law statutes).

And the plot thickens. The company's upcoming game, Bully, has entered the overarching Take-Two narrative, now in the following two instances.

The first is from a statement by the Britain-based Bullying Online, an organization devoted to ending all forms of "bullying" on school grounds in the UK. Reportedly, that group is seeking a ban of the title on its home turf.

"This game should be banned," the organization's Liz Carnell has said. "I'm extremely worried that kids will play it and then act out what they've seen in the classroom.... Bullying is not a game by any stretch of the imagination. We have around four suicidal children contacting us every day."

Rockstar Games describes the upcoming title as one where gamers play as a "troublesome schoolboy" who "stands up to bullies, gets picked on by teachers, plays pranks on malicious kids, wins or loses the girl, and ultimately learns to navigate the obstacles of the fictitious reform school."

Closer to home, Florida attorney Jack Thompson, an active campaigner who has in the past targeted aggressive e-mail campaigns at politicians and company officers he hopes to influence, is himself mounting an effort against the game--specifically, against certain game retailers as well as the game's publisher.

"A check of Internet web sites today reveals that Wal-Mart, GameStop, ToysRUs, and Amazon.com are all presently pre-selling the game with no questions asked as to age of the buyers," Thompson said in a statement.

Bully is currently unrated, but based on previews, most industry sources expect it to ship with an M rating, meaning it should be sold only to those 17 and older.

In another statement, Thompson asks Take-Two president Paul Eibeler to reconsider the game's upcoming release. "I and others are today calling upon you to stop the release of Bully," the statement, in part, read.

Also contained in the statement from Thompson is a reference to a demonstration slated to take place tomorrow in lower Manhattan, outside the corporate headquarters of Take-Two Interactive. According to Thompson, two busloads of Washington, DC schoolchildren will protest the game's release, though it was not clear what organization was promoting or funding the demonstration.

Just as Hot Coffee cools down, another bully, it seems, lurks in the corners.
post #2 of 17
Thompson is such a douchebag. He is a bag of douche.

I remember reading about this game in a recent issue of some game magazine. Looks like "GTA: Middle School". I like the GTA games a lot but it would be nice if the developers would branch out into other styles of games. The "go anywhere, do anything" model is excellent but it doesn't need to be limited to beating the fuck out of people.
post #3 of 17
Chalk up another point in the "Many people are ridiculous dorks who are easily offended by the wrong things" category. I think one day I will file a law suit against people who file ridiculous law suits and cause "undue stress" to my physical well being.
post #4 of 17
My common sense meter has never registered lower readings than it does now. Let me get this straight: An 85-year-old woman buys GTA: SA for her 14 year old grandson, apparently aware of the game's advertised content (drug running, murder, assault of civilians, prostitution, etc) and then is shocked to the point of lawsuit that it also contains code that may show polygons simulating sex?

Sweet merciful Christ on a pogo stick. On what planet does this make any kind of sense? Who buys this game for a 14-year-old kid??? When my daughter was an infant (now 20 months old), I wouldn't even play a T-rated game while she was awake (and I still won't). I will occasionally allow her to watch Fight Club with her evening Jack and Coke when she gets home from the Nike factory, though. Kid needs to unwind, you know.
post #5 of 17
Sounds like a cool game, I hope they nab Nick Stahl for one of the voices.
post #6 of 17
All right, show of hands.....who here DIDN'T see this coming? I mean, honestly.....

That said, the fact that Jack Thompson has or probably will breed makes me very very sad.
post #7 of 17
He has unleashed his demon seed upon the earth! He even lets his teenage son play video games, although he only gets to play E-rated games.
post #8 of 17
I hope his child gets beat up by a bully.
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Bullying is not a game by any stretch of the imagination. We have around four suicidal children contacting us every day."
Hum... Now call me crazy... But I don't think banning this game from your area is going to help much. You might want to think about a more drastic approach.
post #10 of 17
Are these motherfuckers gonna force me to vote Republican in the next set of elections?
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Last month, the board revoked the game's M rating, rerated the product AO, and forced the game's parent company to pull existing copies (or supply retailers with AO stickers) and manufacture new game discs with the mod-induced sex games deleted.
Maybe i'm missing something here but why rate it AO if you're going to make them pull existing copies and put out the game without the sex?
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Maybe i'm missing something here but why rate it AO if you're going to make them pull existing copies and put out the game without the sex?
They didn't make them exactly pull the copies. Its just that the existing copies are incorrectly rated M. So stores that want to sell them have to either sell them with an AO sticker or have people come in and ask about the game going to the back room and giving it to them (I heard quite a few retailers are actually selling the game this way)
post #14 of 17
People like this piss me off. So much so that I can't think of anything to say. Why should the video game industry be punished? Why not punish the corporations who are selling the game? If they started selling porno to kids, they'd be fined out the ass, not the porno companies. Why not the same thing here?
post #15 of 17
Seems like most people forgot about this one.
It came out the other day and has gotten pretty good reviews. I might rent it.
post #16 of 17
It's got a 90 overall on metacritic.com, wish I had money for games.
post #17 of 17
I gave it a shoutout in the "wtf are you playing?" thread. I love it. I'm not a big fan of the Harry Potter licensed games, but if they tried to emulate this school environment, I think they would find success.

I'm only about 17% percent through it and I've put in about 10 hours of time. Granted, most of that time was spent exploring and starting shit with the Prefects.

Holidays come and go on their own. Halloween was a blast and featured the classic "flaming bag of poo" prank. Great fun.
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