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post #101 of 1003
Yep LT shows why he is the no.1 back in the NFL once again.

Have to say I was surprised how well Eli played. I do have a question what happened to Amani Toomer? Its as if its just his corpse showing up on sundays now. Eli was looking for Plaxico and Shockey all game long and when he did throw to Amani it was dropped or overthrown.

9ers almost had the Cowboys but I must say Drew Bledsoe is doing a wonderful job as QB there. Outside of his first two interceptions of the season though.
post #102 of 1003
- kerry collins is frightened to throw the ball downfield. every second pass is thrown out to jordan.
- when collins gets touched he fumbles the ball atleast 75% of the time.
- the o-line sucks. gallery is a total bust. everytime jordan would get the ball in his hands a linebacker was there tackling him.
- the defenese is playing better then expected but the d-line creates no pressure at all. sign c-wood now!
- stupid penalties gave the eagles 13 points.
- wide left...again and again.
- the raiders are gone back to the pre-gruden era. they lose games themselves. any close game at all they'll lose because of the refs or their self destruction.
- no other team in the nfl could ever have a 45 yard field goal in a blizzard and a game winning kick by a kicker who has a torn hamstring go in.
- 0-3 could easily of been 3-0.
- 13 games left in norv turner's head coaching career.
post #103 of 1003
I'm loving Bledsoe.
post #104 of 1003
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
What's wrong with Peyton Manning? He's killing Fantasy owner with his inability to get the ball in the end zone. Who's watching and can say what is wrong..

I've watched every game, and to be honest. the other teams D is droping a total of like 8 guys into the back field, so pretty much everyone is really damn covered. it's a huge change of pace but as long as the D holds up we'll be fine, but I can't wait till we start dropping the huge points again.
post #105 of 1003
Another long season for Bay Area Fans with both the Raiders and the Niners looking bad.
I agree that Norv Turner had best get his resume in order.
And The Raiders continue to be killed by the penalties. Penalities for being aggresive are one thing,but the kind of just plain stupid penalties Oakland keeps racking up are another.
So much for "A tradition of Excellence".
THe real problem with the Raiders is you can fire players, fire coaches, but you can't fire the owner.
post #106 of 1003
Hrm, what are the specifics of Brett Favre's deal? Could he be moved without wrecking Green Bay's cap situation? There certainly are quite a few teams out there that seem like they're a QB away from contention.
post #107 of 1003
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Originally Posted by MoNkaholic
Hrm, what are the specifics of Brett Favre's deal? Could he be moved without wrecking Green Bay's cap situation? There certainly are quite a few teams out there that seem like they're a QB away from contention.
I think Brett Farve would retire before playing for another team.

Well my Brownies almost pulled it out yesterday. I gotta say, I had ZERO expectations going into this season for them. "Just don't get embarassed" was the key and so far they are playing soe inspired football. Get even more talent to go along with Romeo's coaching style and we'll be alright in a few years.

Plus, I got to smile when Pittspuke lost. Always makes my day...
post #108 of 1003
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Originally Posted by dudalb
Another long season for Bay Area Fans with both the Raiders and the Niners looking bad.
I agree that Norv Turner had best get his resume in order.
And The Raiders continue to be killed by the penalties. Penalities for being aggresive are one thing,but the kind of just plain stupid penalties Oakland keeps racking up are another.
So much for "A tradition of Excellence".
THe real problem with the Raiders is you can fire players, fire coaches, but you can't fire the owner.

Should be interesting next week between the Cowboys and Raiders.

See ya next Monday for followup, dudalb.
post #109 of 1003
it's commitment to excellence.
post #110 of 1003
I love the Jets, at least when their season is shot, they let their fans know early. Of course, Chad Pennington not playing a full season is hardly a surprise, but god... even Fiedler could be out for quite some time.

Starting for the New York Jets, Brooks Bollinger!
post #111 of 1003
They also just picked back up Vinny Testaverde. Back to the future!
post #112 of 1003
Then again, I suppose whomever they put in there can't be all that much worse than Pennington was over the last three games. See that? Optimism from a Jets fan, you've seen it here first.
post #113 of 1003
Commitment to excellence instead of Tradition of excellence. My Bad. But my point is the same:They ain't sure as hell ain't displaying much excellence.
Fact is, for years the Raiders have been living off their bad boy,street fighing image when most of the time they have been a mediocre to poor team. Yeah, they got hot for a couple of years and made the superbowl,but look at how fast they have slipped back.And all the street fighting man posturing won't change that. All sizzle, and only once in a great while any real stake.
post #114 of 1003
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Originally Posted by Suttytx
Should be interesting next week between the Cowboys and Raiders.

See ya next Monday for followup, dudalb.
You have 2 not very good teams playing, but in the office betting pool I am taking Dallas despite my hatred of the COwboys because they seem to be not quite as bad as Oakland. But an upset would not suprise me.
post #115 of 1003
I doubt many people are going to agree with me, but I think when all is said and done Viniatieri is going to be deserving of the Hall of Fame. Note that I said deserving, because he's not going to come close. It's weird, people talk about the importance of special teams, but so many idiots out there say stupid shit like 'a kicker isn't a real football player'. Well, if that's the case, don't use them. If they're not football players, why do they have uniforms and participate in football games?

The fact is, a kicker is an integral part of every single team. Viniatieri has played a HUGE role in every Super Bowl win the Patriots have had. No matter the weather or distance, if there's a kick to win a game, he's going to nail it. It's not like he's done it once, either. Time after time he's hit a tough kick in the most clutch situations.

Now, if he's one of the best ever to play at his position (and I think he's probably the best I've ever seen), why wouldn't he be a Hall of Fame player. He suits up every week, and performs his job consistently at a Pro Bowl level.

Again, forget arguing whether or not he'll make it. I know he won't. I'm just looking to send a little love to a position that's only given a second thought when they screw up. Right now, Jan Stenerud is the only kicker to be inducted. Here's hoping another one gets the invite when AV decides to hang up his cleats.
post #116 of 1003
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Originally Posted by MoNkaholic
Then again, I suppose whomever they put in there can't be all that much worse than Pennington was over the last three games.
Fiedler can be worse, much worse. The Jets have a better shot with Testaverde.
post #117 of 1003
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Originally Posted by Guttenberg Fan Club
Right now, Jan Stenerud is the only kicker to be inducted. Here's hoping another one gets the invite when AV decides to hang up his cleats.
He'll make it after the Anderso/ens.
post #118 of 1003
Oh I think there is no question Vinatieri will be in the hall of fame. It really doesn't seem like a discussion UNLESS you want to totally discount what a reliable kicker brings to a team. Most football guys will agree the kicker is a girly position, but you always curse a bad one and take the good ones for granted. Vinatieri has actually transcended the "being taken for granted" because he has proven time and time again that his leg will win games for you period.
post #119 of 1003
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Originally Posted by Desslar
Fiedler can be worse, much worse. The Jets have a better shot with Testaverde.

Heh...spoken like a true Dolfan. I think this town will explode if Fiedler is starting by the time the Jets go to Dolphins Stadium later this season.
post #120 of 1003
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Originally Posted by Gio Angles
Heh...spoken like a true Dolfan. I think this town will explode if Fiedler is starting by the time the Jets go to Dolphins Stadium later this season.
You know it. I'm not sure if I'd want to play against him though. It would be sweet to embarrass him, but what if we lost? We'd never live it down. Testaverde wll probably be starting anyway.
post #121 of 1003
Now they're saying that Pennington is out for three weeks, and then will be re-evaluated. But between this and the way his arm strength looked so far this season, I can't see him being a viable option at QB.

Which is why I'm so glad he's on my fantasy team....
post #122 of 1003
Quote:
Originally Posted by dudalb
Commitment to excellence instead of Tradition of excellence. My Bad. But my point is the same:They ain't sure as hell ain't displaying much excellence.
Fact is, for years the Raiders have been living off their bad boy,street fighing image when most of the time they have been a mediocre to poor team. Yeah, they got hot for a couple of years and made the superbowl,but look at how fast they have slipped back.And all the street fighting man posturing won't change that. All sizzle, and only once in a great while any real stake.
the whole commitment to excellence is just a saying. you can't be awesome every year in the league. every team goes through a rough patch. the raiders had their's in the mid 90's and they've sucked the past 2 year's. i wouldn't call that "most of the time they have been mediocre to a poor team". ever since al davis joined the team they have the highest winning percentage in football. i'd call that pretty "excellent". the raiders will always be the bad boy team as long as al is running the team. he tend's to take on turd's (not nearly as much as he used to) and the league fucking hates him. they slipped so fast because they were so fucking old. timmy brown, jerry, rod woodson, big linc, gannon, crazy robbins. you can't play forever. it's pretty amazing they lasted as long as they did.


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You have 2 not very good teams playing, but in the office betting pool I am taking Dallas despite my hatred of the COwboys because they seem to be not quite as bad as Oakland. But an upset would not suprise me.
dallas played one good game. the skins game was pathetic and beating the niners by 4 is pretty sad as well. atleast the raiders competed against very good teams. a bad called there and a field goal there and this team could easily be 3-0. they still need a qb who isn't a pussy. if theres a team they can beat its the cowboys because the raiders pass rush is terrible. having statue bledsoe out their gives them a fighting chance atleast.
post #123 of 1003
Let me just say that if feels great to be back to Saints football. 1-2, horrible penalties, turnovers at severely inopportune times. Its starting to feel like home again!
post #124 of 1003

Stuber Picks 'Em Week 4

Last Week: 9-5 (23-23)

Back to .500!! It feels both amazing and pathetic. Man, are there a lot of superstars gone for the season or what? With Spiked and Rodney Harrison gone, those two defenses will overcome. But only New England's is built for that kind of test. Buffalo will be hurting in the long haul. I thought they were going to be the surprise team this year and J.P. Losman the new Roethlisberger. But instead, they'll struggle to make 9-7 and probably end up 8-8. But enough about the Bills, and on to my terribly unreliable Week 4 picks.

Buffalo at New Orleans... in San Antonio the Saints will suck, at LSU they will be better.
Denver at Jacksonville... Denver ruined a lot of people's bets last Monday, Jags will slow the down.
Detroit at Tampa Bay... Remember when Chicago went 13-3 like 6 yrs ago and then got pummeled in their first playoff game? Hmm.
Houston at Cincinnati... Playing like a powerhouse against crappy teams. I'm withholding judgement until they travel to JAC next week.
Indianapolis at Tennessee... For Christ's sake, when will the Colts put up some friggin' points?!
San Diego at New England... I have no idea if the Pats can even get back to the big game, but until further notice, they are the Champs.
Seattle at Washington... Part of me was thinking Hasselbeck & Co. may be pretty good this week, it was my ass.
St. Louis at N.Y. Giants... It turns out that I currently dislike Eli Manning more than I do Mike Martz. But #10 has been growing on me lately.
N.Y. Jets at Baltimore... I was about to pick the Jets in a close one and then remembered Pennington. Brooks Bollinger will emerge capable, but BAL wins it in the final minutes.
Dallas at Oakland... Oakland is actually better than their record suggests. Sucks to be them.
Minnesota at Atlanta... Anyone who reads these knows I love to pick against Vick, I won't this time. But MIN will cover the spread.
Philadelphia at Kansas City... I want this Chiefs team to rock, I really do. Let's hope wishful thinking will work.
San Francisco at Arizona... Finally, a team J.J. Arrington can run on.
Green Bay at Carolina... 0 for 3 on picking the Forest Green & Stop-light Yello. Something's gotta give, right?

Open date: Chicago, Cleveland, Miami, Pittsburgh
post #125 of 1003
Well, Vick's hurt, but I don't think it's too bad. Cool that we have over 100 yds. rushing with just our quarterbacks in the first half.

Vikings look like ass, though. Hard to feel great about whuppin' up on 'em.
post #126 of 1003
Luckily for the Bears, it's looking like they can win the NFC North with a losing record.
post #127 of 1003
Ok, like 8 people just got hurt on the Iggles D on this one play.
post #128 of 1003
And leading the AFC East? Yep, it's the Dolphins!
post #129 of 1003
Daunte Culpepper is single-handedly ruining not only the Vikings' season but my fantasy season as well.
post #130 of 1003
Did anyone catch the Eagles game? What an incredible comeback and show of intestinal fortitude by the Eagles. Down by 18 and came back! Andy Reid is an offensive genius, but I have to question why he would still push McNabb and pass the ball on every play when they're up by 10 points with 4 minutes left and down on the Chiefs 20 yard line. Of course McNabb takes a shot and ends up twisting his knee.

And the Redskins are the worst 3-0 team ever.
post #131 of 1003
I'm kinda sick of the Eagles already, but that was one helluva game for them.

As for Atlanta, I'd like to see Schaub get a little attention in the press this week, the guy put in a great effort (against an admittedly absent defense, but still...).
post #132 of 1003
The Jaguars will be forever an 8-8 team as long as Carl Smith is calling the plays. Which is a shame with the defense they have.
post #133 of 1003
Ugh, Stuber. You're taking a hit with the picks this week.

And word is Vick has a mild knee sprain. Man, the Vikings just looked out of sync. I can't believe they sacked Culpepper 9 times. The game vs. the Pats will be veddy in-teh-resting next week. And I'll be there!
post #134 of 1003
Why do I get the feeling 6 wins is going to win the NFC North? Bears might need to get Blake in there(ugg) to get to 6 wins though.

Joey Harringhton should be ashamed of himself. This division was his for the taking.

Any word as to why Kevin Jones was benched? That man is killing my fantasy team. I'd guess his mouth got him benched because he's the only offensive weapon the lions have as long as joey is qb.
post #135 of 1003
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Originally Posted by ice dragon
Did anyone catch the Eagles game? What an incredible comeback and show of intestinal fortitude by the Eagles. Down by 18 and came back! Andy Reid is an offensive genius, but I have to question why he would still push McNabb and pass the ball on every play when they're up by 10 points with 4 minutes left and down on the Chiefs 20 yard line. Of course McNabb takes a shot and ends up twisting his knee.
brad childress call's the play's not reid.

the raiders finally win but they almost let a game they were in total control from the onset slip away. collins was unimpressive yet again. he better get his shit together against san diego in 2 weeks. the defense was solid again today but can they ever force a few turnovers? of course they got a few sacks (finally!!!) against bledsoe but it won't come that easy against brees. tony saragusa had some balls roaming down in the black hole today. i'm surprised one of the oakland crazies didn't jump out to beat the living shit out of him for belly flopping gannon in the afc championship game a few years ago.
post #136 of 1003
I love the Pats, they're the champs and all, but home winning streak since 2002 = over. And, an interesting bit of LT trivia I learned today: averaging 1 rushing TD per game for 67 games hasn't been done since Jim Brown did it.
post #137 of 1003
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Originally Posted by Martianman
Ugh, Stuber. You're taking a hit with the picks this week.
going 7-6 into tonight. not bad. but I've done better.

41-17? Shit, if I knew Rodney Harrison was that more important than Ty Law or Lawyer Milloy, I would have gone with the ESPN crew and picked LT kicking their cans. I'm in inclined to think that this week I was finally convinced of what some teams actually are.

New England: Still pretty good, but coming back down to earth as far as the rest of the pack. Currently playing around 11-5 possibly 10-6. That kind of regular season usually doesn't get past the divisional round.

Buffalo: Their defense is supposed to be tremendous, and pretty reliable even without Takeo Spikes; and with their backfield, how could Losman lose? Well, the little fucker has found a way. And I feel for Tim Russert.

Denver: They've shalacked (sp?) two very good teams in as many weeks, one a huge division rival on Mon. Night. Mike Anderson is running well, the defense are playing like crazed men, and Plummer isn't making his usual assload of bad throws. It seems I have a tendency to go for the jugular and miss completely. I believe I said something along the lines of, "Mike Tice's job is in trouble, blah blah blah, Mike Shanahan will lose his job at the end of the season." Well, one looks definite while the other is not even close. Right now, DEN is playing good enough to be the #2 or #3 seed come Week 17. But that's a ways away.

NY Giants: I honestly think Eli Manning has arrived. Plaxico Burress, 174 Rec Yds in the 1st half? Barber hasn't lost a step.... yet. And their defense is relatively no-named but playing dependable.

On the other side... I thought Mike Martz would be more level-headed this year because of Steven Jackson's ability. 62 passing attempts vs. 13 rushing attempts. I don't care how bad you're losing, that won't bode well.

*I also have the STL backfield currently occupying 2 roster spots on my fantsy team. Way to go, Stuber.
post #138 of 1003
And as we're almost done with the first 4 weeks (considering tonight's game has no impact on these standings), here's how your leaders look in the standings:

AFC

North - Bengals (4-0)
South - Indy (4-0)
East - Miami (2-1)
West - Denver (3-1)

NFC

North - Bears (1-2)
South - Bucs (4-0)
East - Washington (3-0)
West - St. Louis (2-2)

What a wacky and wonderful first four weeks.
post #139 of 1003
Who would've thunk that the Packers would start out 0 and 4, the Colts defense would actually be good, and not just on paper.

Is the QB for the Jets the same guy listed in the credits for that movie Firecracker, or am I just stupid?
post #140 of 1003
The Saints did somthing this week that they haven't done since 2000, played great on Defense.

Dante' Stallworth proved he is capable of big game numbers, and Duece finally rolled over some people.

No turnovers is huge. If the Saints can replicate this sort of performance, they can beat any team.

10-6 was my preseason prediction and I am sticking to my guns.

The Saints have an offense that can score on any one and are developing a strong defense agianst the pass, all they need now is to sure up the run defense and find a LB who can tackle and we can start talking serious contender.
post #141 of 1003
i'm not really surprised that the packers are 0-4. they lost their dominate o-line and their defense suck's. losing walker was unexpected though.
post #142 of 1003
I wish Farve would consider leaving GB and come to the Bears this year. They have a stable line, top tier D, and a good running game. With McNabb a solid hit to the chest away in Philly from being out, the NFC could be wide open. The Giants defense isn't the best, Skins can't score, Rams have no D, and the Bucswhile off to a great start aren't that scary since they haven't really played anyone. Panthers look good but aren't a juggernaut.

I know it's a pipe dream but it's pointless for him to be still playing on that team when they haven't addressed the defense for a few years now and wasted his last couple of good years. They don't have the balls to bench him so he needs to go. Too bad the Bears wouldn't have the balls to attempt a move like that.
post #143 of 1003
I think San Diego has recovered from its gates suspension and shaky first two games.

They looked like a complete team on Sunday. Although the Pats were a bit beat up, they are still a damn good team, and for SD to make them look like chumps was impressive.

Jammer is still getting called for PI EVERY time someone goes deep on him, but damn that linebacking crew that SD has may just be the best in Football. They are playing amazing defense and like they should do, masking the weak secondary.

LT is playing like a beast. I haven't seen him pump his legs and fight through tackles so hard in quite a while, not to say he takes plays off. He really was out there to prove a point. Lets hope it reverberates through the rest of the team.

Alex Smith...he is getting the start. Good luck man. My fucking niners could have made quite a move in the NFC west with seattle and st louis losing. But jesus that offense looks bad. Arizona finally got some O together and made the blitzing niner D pay. I still think their Defense is really strong, but that offense is just so anemic.
post #144 of 1003
wasn't the carolina D-line supposed to be brutal? the packers were just a couple of passes away from posting a 36-point come-from-behind victory on their collective asses. how do you let a patched-up o-line that seemed to loose a guard or a center every second or third down, gel together during the course of a half game and protect the yoda of QBs long enough for him to nearly pick you apart? john fox cannot be a happy man these days.
post #145 of 1003
A lot of good games this weekend, SD v. Pit should be a doozy. I'm a little worried the Pats can't handle the Falcons with how beat up their defense is, but given that it's the Pats, they'll probably bounce back. I just watched a "Scouting the Bronco's video" on redskins.com, and while it's made me more optimistic about the Skins chances this week (their defense is nasty at shutting down the run), it is always a tough matchup to play in Mile-High stadium. Will be interesting to see if a team that many feel is overated (Skins) can beat a solid team like Denver to stay undefeated.
post #146 of 1003
All I know is I'd like to make a toast to Kyle Orton. Have another beer before you play my Brownies this weekend. We need all the help we can get (although your 41.9 QB rating is a good start)


What Kyle Orton thinks of you!


If you can't even get the liquor in your mouth, you might be in trouble throwing a football.
post #147 of 1003
I'm worried sick about my Bucs against the Jets this weekend. It just feels like a game we're gonna lose.

Then again, I thought we'd stomp the Lions, so watch this be a blowout.

Someone on ESPN actually said that Vinny is "old, slow, but smart" and will lead the Jets to a win.
post #148 of 1003
i don't see why so many people are shitting on and making fun of orton for getting drunk this past week, on his team's bye week. what a crime.
post #149 of 1003
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Originally Posted by heLL pAso
i don't see why so many people are shitting on and making fun of orton for getting drunk this past week, on his team's bye week. what a crime.
I think a lot of has to do with the fact that there are pictures out there (if they never surfaced, this would never be a story. Living in Cleveland, current Yankees pitcher Jarred Wright was famous for getting trashed and picking up tons of chicks in the local bars. It was only a local story because there was never any proof.). Sure it's not a crime or anything, but have you ever seen pictures of McNabb, Manning, Montana, Young, Elway, etc. drunk in a bar? It's about being a professional. When you are at that level of sports you have to maintain a different level of life. Like it or not, it's just the way it goes. With all the perks you get for being rich, young, athletic, and famous - there are downfalls. Plus, you gotta admit - that "bird" picture is freaking gold!

The same situation could be said about Kellen Winslow Jr. for the Browns. He got in a motorcycle accident. Happens all the time, right? But life is different when you famous. (I know he had a clause in his contract about the riding, I am referring to the act)

In all honesty, I could care less about him getting drunk, getting his picture taken, or flipping off the camera. I just hope the media circus distracts him and he really stinks when he plays the Browns on Sunday. It's all about the W!
post #150 of 1003
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
I'm worried sick about my Bucs against the Jets this weekend. It just feels like a game we're gonna lose.

Then again, I thought we'd stomp the Lions, so watch this be a blowout.

Someone on ESPN actually said that Vinny is "old, slow, but smart" and will lead the Jets to a win.
Vinny won't win that game for the Jets.. Tampa can only lose it. Especially if the Caddy can't play.
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