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Wes Craven's New Nightmare

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There’s always talk about how the best ELM STREET is the 1984 original, and while I won’t argue against that opinion, it seems like Wes Craven’s second directorial effort in the series gets the chopping block along with the rest of the lesser films that turned the franchise into a stale, sadistic comedy. Even in SCREAM, Drew Barrymore’s character states how all of the films suck in the series other than the first one. I hope that screenwriter Kevin Williamson was poking fun at his new collaborator at the time, because WES CRAVEN’S NEW NIGHTMARE certainly doesn’t suck.

I watched NEW NIGHTMARE for the first time in a good while (I finally caved in and picked up the ELM STREET box set...I already own the FRIDAY THE 13TH set, so it was only a matter of time...and my oh my, was I reminded just how bad and cheesy most of these films are...being a horror fan, taste isn't a factor the majority of the time, so whatever), and it holds up pretty damn well. The story itself, which in essence is a movie within a movie, is another example of Craven’s ingenious play on what’s real and what isn’t. Like the original film, surrealism and realism are blurred to the point of indistinguishability. Craven takes it a step further and adds an existential being (a blood-and-guts, living, breathing Freddy) who is aware of his place in the very films he was created for. It’s a grand vision, one that is rarely tried in the horror genre.

I’ll say that Craven’s execution, for the most part, is pretty middle-of-the-road and I wouldn’t have minded more elaboration on why this Freddy creature is suddenly clamoring to find a home in our dimension. Freddy actually attacking Craven himself would’ve been a fanboy’s wet dream, too, I’ll admit. And the kid actor…ugh. Annoying as a piece of hair in your 12-inch Subway Chicken Breast sandwich. I hope he stays away from future horror films. His role in PET SEMATARY wanted to make me smack him upside the noggin’. But the way Craven uses footage of the first ELM STREET, the original’s cast, and the connections to the real-world in relation to the franchise’s phenomenon and controversy (the director doesn’t shy away from questioning his own work’s effects on young children) is nothing short of inspiring and just a treat to watch unfold.

Oh, and some of the SFX is piss-poor. For a 1994 film, some of the miniatures and pyrotechnics are not up to snuff. Then again, I don’t know if Craven was purposely going for a B-movie look with some of the sets. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
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It's a witty, clever and ambitious concept, but it fails more than it succeeds in my opinion. Like you say, Craven comes up with a great idea but then never really gets the most out of it. It had the potential to be a real head-fuck movie, but ended up as little more than a gimmicky slasher by the end.
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Originally Posted by IndianSummerSky
Oh, and some of the SFX is piss-poor. For a 1994 film, some of the miniatures and pyrotechnics are not up to snuff. Then again, I don’t know if Craven was purposely going for a B-movie look with some of the sets. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

Indeed. And the last twenty minutes really come across that Wes Craven ran out of money. It could have been really great, but this drags it down.
post #4 of 10
I still enjoy this movie. It's like a Twilight Zone episode combined with True Hollywood Story. I don't consider it to be part of the rather lame continuity, or rather non continuity of the previous films. But the reason I posted here is to say that I actually think that part 3, Dream Warriors, with ass kicking, or at least ass nudging theme song by Dokken is the best in the series.
post #5 of 10
New Nightmare's one of my favorite horror films. The concept is gold, as has been mentioned, but I also loved the characters (namely Heather) and "Freddy's" impact in the real world. Also, J. Peter Robinson's musical score doesn't get nearly enough love. It's fantastic.
post #6 of 10
Starts off well, loses its way real quickly. Doesn't have anywhere near the edge that part one has.
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Originally Posted by Dan Whitehead
It's a witty, clever and ambitious concept, but it fails more than it succeeds in my opinion. Like you say, Craven comes up with a great idea but then never really gets the most out of it. It had the potential to be a real head-fuck movie, but ended up as little more than a gimmicky slasher by the end.
Agreed, although I enjoy it quite a bit. Of the various concepts, the idea that Freddy is just another incarnation of the Witch from Hansel and Gretel, which was another incarnation of this primordial evil was my favorite.
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Originally Posted by Balmudo
But the reason I posted here is to say that I actually think that part 3, Dream Warriors, with ass kicking, or at least ass nudging theme song by Dokken is the best in the series.
The thing that surprised me the most, after watching this box set, was my reevaluation for my love of DREAM WARRIORS. I think the last time I had seen the film straight through was in '89 or '90, and I remembered it being a particularly creepy piece of horror cinema. After watching it again, it felt like an entirely different film. The dream sequences weren't as cool and hardcore as I had originally remembered them to be. The group of teenagers just seemed like a 21 Jump Street crew thrown into a horror setting, replete with their own caricatured handicaps.

I'd still rank that film third in the series, though, right behind the original and NEW NIGHTMARE. And, hey, the great Frank Darabont had a hand in the script, but honestly, I wouldn't have noticed a difference if nobody had told me.
post #9 of 10
I loved New Nightmare. I doesn't get the love it deserves. I remember when it first came out lots of critics liked it, but the masses wrote it off as just another Freddy sequel, which is alot more than that and it pretty much bombed. I still have lots of love for Nightmare 4 though. Cheesy yet creative, I think Renny Harlin did a good job with what he had to work with.
post #10 of 10
I agree with Dan, Fett and the others here. New Nightmare is a great concept, but it squanders it by the end. It had the potential to be one of those GOOD ambiguous films, where the audience is left with some blanks to fill in in order to come to some conclusions on their own. Unfortunately, it devolves into a very typical "Freddy" movie by the end. It's a shame, really, because they had the opportunity to do something really interesting with an otherwise uninteresting franchise.
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