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post #101 of 144
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Originally Posted by Johnny Daywalker on 12-22-2005
Heading nowhere with how Kwame Brown and especially Lamar Odom are playing. Kobe is Kobe and to the mans credit he never seems to take a night off. If only the others didn't take a game or two off every week.
Seems like its smooth sailing for these comments still. Last night a tragic loss to a Bobcat team without Okafor or Gerald Wallace. Lakers had no Lamar but nonetheless got out played by a 2nd year expansion team. Jermaine Jones scoring 31? I mean I know he was a former Laker scrub but thats plain silly.

MVP candidate or not it will take more than Mr Bryant to win. Andrew Bynum seems to want to play more than Kwame right now. Why care if the team makes the playoffs at this rate? Why not pray for a good lottery pick.
post #102 of 144
Hell if I know...but I have never seen a team so lacking of desire to play and make ANYTHING than the Lakers currently. Other teams have got our number now simply sending two (and a lot of times 3) men at Kobe and simply saying to everyone else....just make it. Which of course none of them do. After the Bobcat game I know Phil was ticked off wondering why the heck they traded Jumaine Jones and I agree. This is getting ridiculous and it's high time we get rid of Mitch and sign someone that is at least...competent.

You can't waste the greatest player since Jordan like this, you just can't.
post #103 of 144
Starting to sound more realistic now CT. Well you know exactly how I feel about Kupchak.

As far as what you said. Kobe is gonna be wasted its a foregone conclusion that he might never get a Pippen at this rate. Unless Lamar turns it on or the Lakers get lucky and get a guy who wants to be No.2 Robin.

Frankly and realistically I see the draft as a way to solve this problem. They need a youngster to come in and carve his nitch. A player who grows with Kobe and accepts less money and shots. Question is can that even be a possibility with how Buss wants a winner now?

Besides the point that Kobe cannot play A.I forever and expect to hold up every season. Its just not gonna happen. So in essence the clock is ticking and i'm morbidly curious what the results will be.
post #104 of 144
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
I know I'm always discussing the Knicks, but this week has been considered the darkest in recent memory by the local press. First, the Antonio Davis situation, where he didn't even receive the backing of classless Isaiah, followed by rumors that he'd be released because of the controversy. Then, the sexual harrassment case against Thomas that is threatening to never go away. And, of course, the eight losses in the last nine games, headlined by an absolutely heartless showing against the Atlanta Hawks, which I actually bothered to watch last night.

And thus, none of these guys can be traded at the point. These guys are snakebitten, at least until summer when some salaries come off the cap. And the Bulls, who have their first round pick, end up with #1 overall.

At $120 million, this Knicks team has to be considered one of the biggest fiascos in sports history.
to make matters worse they trade for rose! the knicks organization is run by a bunch of fucking monkeys. the raptors are actually starting to do some things right, about time. firing babcock was a total blessing and now they somehow got rid of jalen rose and his $17 mil per year contract.
post #105 of 144
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Originally Posted by heLL pAso
to make matters worse they trade for rose! the knicks organization is run by a bunch of fucking monkeys. the raptors are actually starting to do some things right, about time. firing babcock was a total blessing and now they somehow got rid of jalen rose and his $17 mil per year contract.

Indeed.

Credit where credit's due... they got a first round pick in the deal.

That being said, Isiah is down on the coming draft, so I expect another move to materialize. The press has bandied about the names of Theo Ratliff and Earl Watson. Which, of course, makes me laugh.

Poison Peter in the NY Post reported of a potential four way deal with NY, Orlando, Denver and another team that would result in the moving of Watson, Steve Francis and a couple of Knicks, which means that, despite the fact that if Peter Vescey discusses it, it's dead, Orlando is definitely trying to scrap their team.

Al Harrington is a popular name also.

And speaking of former Pacers' almost-stars, sad news on Johnathan Bender. I honestly thought he'd eventually be some sort of contributor to a team one day. Seven footers that shoot three pointers and are immensely athletic are hard to come by.
post #106 of 144
What happened to Bender anyways?
post #107 of 144
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Originally Posted by Johnny Daywalker
What happened to Bender anyways?

Retired.
post #108 of 144
Retired? What why?
post #109 of 144
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Indiana Pacers forward Jonathan Bender is almost certain his career is over because of a series of knee injuries.

"Due to a medical condition in my knees, I will not be able to continue playing basketball," the 25-year-old forward said Saturday in a statement released by the team. "The Pacers gave me the chance to play with, and against, the best players in the world."

Though he does not expect to play again, Bender has not yet filed official retirement papers with the NBA.

Toronto made Bender the fifth pick in the 1999 draft, then traded him to Indiana before the season started. He played seven seasons with the Pacers, but never in every game. His best season was in 2001-2002, when he averaged 7.8 points and 3.1 rebounds per game.

The 7-foot Bender also played guard at times. He made 87 3-pointers in his career. As a defender, he was an intimidating shot blocker.

Indiana coach Rick Carlisle said Bender is a hard worker who appreciated the chance to play in the NBA.

"I'm sad for him, for his family," Carlisle said. "A situation like this couldn't happen to a more undeserving person. Jonathan really is a great kid. He wanted to play basketball in the worst way and he wanted to help this franchise in the worst way."

When healthy, Bender presented mismatches and was a force on the boards. But he rarely was able to contribute. He played in 237 regular-season games with 27 starts, and was limited to nine games the past two seasons.

"It'll be one of the questions when you look back in history. How good could this guy have been?" Carlisle said. "I'm not sure that there was any limit to his potential. It was just not to be."
lll
post #110 of 144
What a tragic situation. I feel for him.
post #111 of 144
And the Lakers bite the dust again. This time with two former Lakers driving a nail in the coffin.

Comparision..

E. Jones 25 pts Kobe 26pts
C. Atkins 18pts Parker 20pts

L. Odom and Kwame Brown 26pts combined
Pau Gasol 31pts
post #112 of 144
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So Kenyon Martin appears to be on the market, presumably to be packaged with Earl Watson. Denver only gave him a year and a half... is it the fact that he's injury-prone? Or that he's not that great? I wanna say he's a winner, and that his defensive tenacity and shot-blocking, as well as his intangibles, makes him a guy anyone would want on their team.

But Denver is winning and still, even without Nene, want to ditch him. Any guesses why?
post #113 of 144
Money, Injuries, not enough of a difference maker, money, injuries and money.

Frankly he wasn't the guy to bring them over the hump. In Jersey he had others who could bring it when he wouldn't thats not happening in Denver (who are firmly trying to ride out the Melo train). The guy could be lucky to play at a high level for another 5 years (thats considering he plays injured and maintains himself ok). The price doesn't match the returns at this point.

I'll take him over Nene though. They will go nowhere with Nene and Camby anchoring the middle. Camby I like but again another injury case.
post #114 of 144
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More fun news from the Knicks!

-Larry Brown recently got in a parting pre-All-Star break at Stephon Marbury, telling Eddy Curry that he was the "franchise" player.

-Players have begun to openly complain about Brown's constant cracks about them. A lot was made about Brown's recent crack about Marbury, questioning his math skills, saying he only went to Georgia Tech for one year, "and that's an engineering school."

-Trade rumors have everyone going out of town. The funny thing is, the names being thrown out are all perennial losers and problem children- Theo Ratliff, Danny Fortson, Reggie Evans, Tim Thomas (!)...

This stuff is hilarious.
post #115 of 144
Yeah maybe we'll stop hearing all those dumb debates about whos the best coach Phil Jackson or Larry Brown. Granted these guys don't have near the chance with these players they did 10 years ago. The discipline and commitment these days is almost nil in comparision.

Lamar Odom nearly had a triple double tonight. Maybe he wants to stay in the purple and gold afterall.
post #116 of 144
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And so the Darko Milicic era is over in Detroit... dealt with Carlos Arroyo to Orlando for Kelvin Cato. Orlando is gonna start cleaning shop very soon.

Also, Chris Wilcox was dealt for Vladimir Radmanovic. I like this deal: the Clippers get a starter at small forward and the Sonics get a beefy bruiser who's really gonna thrive over there.
post #117 of 144
Yeah good trade for Seattle and the Clips.

A damn shame about Darko. I was pulling for him I mean we don't need another Sam Bowie. This is who he will be a guy who got chosen over Wade. Darko to me seemed like a spoiled child who got too much too early and never warmed to the Larry Brown (doesn't play rookies) situation. Perhaps the Detroit area never really appealed to him either so hopefully greener pastures in Orlando.
post #118 of 144
I've never seen Darko play in a meaningful game. Playing the last two minutes in a blowout doesn't give you the chane to show your skills. He is only twenty, so he still has a lot of time to develop.

Anyway, Does anyone like the idea of changing the All-star game format to America Vs. the World. I liked it when the NHL did it. A world team could beat an american team. Nash,Yao,Ginobli,Nowitsky,Parker, and a couple of other guys would make a good team.
post #119 of 144
if argentina can beat america i'm pretty sure a squad anchored by steve nash and the best of the world could too. i hated the nhl all star game when they had the world vs north america. there was way too many unworthy players making the world team. if the nba changed their allstar the same thing would happen. keep it east vs west.
post #120 of 144
Whoo...what a dunk contest. With what Jason richardson has done, and now nate and andre I really do think the dunk contest is making a nice comeback.

Ingoudala's behind teh backboard alley oop was fucking INSANE. I really thought he won it there, but everything after that was kind of anti climactic.

Nate Robinson over spudd webb...fucking gorgeous. It was a great looking dunk that involved history and excitement all in one fucking great package.
post #121 of 144
anti climatic was the theme last night. nate robinson had no business scoring a 44 when it took him only 14 try's to throw one down. there was a few really nice dunks but i thought because of the continous fuck ups it was a disappointing contest. the whole element of surprise is was makes a dunk so special. 14 try's doesn't do it for me. that's why smith's show last year was so amazing. he just went up there and threw em down. even iguadala's bounce of the back of the backboard dunk was ruined because he couldn't pull it off on his first try. they should have a timer on how long they have to actually dunk the ball. it took robinson over 20 trys to make 5 successful dunks, yet he somehow won the dunking contest. there is something wrong with that.
post #122 of 144
You know hell paso, I believe they used to have a timer in previous dunk contests, and I actually hated that. Sure it was kind of absurd watching nate take 14 tries for that one through the legs pirouette thing he was attempting, but I would rather see them hit the dunk they want to vs. throwing down some weak shit because there is a time limit.

The element of surprise is lost, but its still entertaining. Ingoudala's behind the backboard dunk was still jaw dropping even though we all knew what he was trying to do. Also, nate's spudd clearance was done on the first try and at that point he had already won the crowd and judges over.
post #123 of 144
the year they had the timer was totally different then what i'm saying. back then they had to complete all of their dunks in a 90 sec span or something like that anyways. there is no possible explanation for taking 14 attempts to complete a dunk. if they fuck up they should be penalized. they should have a limited amount of attempts or a limited amount of time.
post #124 of 144
Breaking News: Steve Francis headed to the...wait...wait...Knicks.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2339941

HAHAHAHA!!
post #125 of 144
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Originally Posted by juan23
HAHAHAHA!!
There goes salary relief for... I dunno, forever. Marbury and Francis...

Let me join this...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
post #126 of 144
Unbelievable. Honestly i'm curious to see how Larry Brown makes it work.
post #127 of 144
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Daywalker
Unbelievable. Honestly i'm curious to see how Larry Brown makes it work.

Does "quitting" count as a prediction?
post #128 of 144
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
Does "quitting" count as a prediction?
How 'bout jumping of the Empire State Building?

How fucked up can this team get?
post #129 of 144
Great, now we have two asshole, overpaid guards who have never won anything.

Isaiah needs to go. I can't see how this trade is going to help anyone. It's going to take time away from Nate Robinson who could become a good player, and it pushes the payroll up to 130 million next year. How much do you think the Piston or Spurs payrolls are?
post #130 of 144
you mustn't have ever heard of a salary cap.

amazing trade for the magic. they get rid of penny's existing contract at the end of the season so they'll be able to sign one of the better free agents in the offseason.
post #131 of 144
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

So, the trades...

DENVER gets Ruben Patterson and Reggie Evans and Charles Smith. Great deal, in that it gives them some toughness and perimeter defense.

PORTLAND gets Voshon Lenard and Brian Skinner. Still payin' Theo Ratliff and Darius Miles.

SEATTLE gets Earl Watson, Bryon Russell and Mike Wilks. I had no idea Russell was still in the league.

SACRAMENTO gets Sergei Monia and Vitaly Potapenko, giving a soft team some bruisers.

CLEVELAND gets Ronald Murray and Lee Nailon. Good for their perimeter offense- Larry Hughes may not be coming back.

MIAMI gets Derek Anderson. Doesn't seem to fit.

NEW ORLEANS gets Marc Jackson and Linton Johnson. Big bodies are a plus for them.

Aside from the Francis deal, slow deadline.
post #132 of 144


This explains it all...

I don't hate Knicks, but they almost ruined basketball in the 90's, so a little karmic retrubution was in store. But not complete ruin. Damn!

That look on Stevie's face is priceless.
post #133 of 144
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
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SEATTLE gets Earl Watson, Bryon Russell and Mike Wilks. I had no idea Russell was still in the league.

CLEVELAND gets Ronald Murray and Lee Nailon. Good for their perimeter offense- Larry Hughes may not be coming back.

MIAMI gets Derek Anderson. Doesn't seem to fit.

NEW ORLEANS gets Marc Jackson and Linton Johnson. Big bodies are a plus for them.
These are good deals. Cleveland did really well considering Hughes is busted at the moment.

Great pic Juan. Thats two looks Francis " I can't believe this shit I won't be number 1 in this town. " and Isiah's " Can you believe I still have a job? " look.
post #134 of 144
A tale of a trade now that half the season is done.

Caron Butler friday night 24pts 7rbs 2asts 3stls in a win over Cleveland.

Kwame Brown 0pts 4rbs 3asts in a loss to hometown rival LA Clippers.

Kwame so far this season. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3511

Caron so far this season.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3608

Nice trade Mitch. Glad i'm not a die hard Laker fan.
post #135 of 144

Earning his due

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Originally Posted by Ian Thomsen, SI.com
Welcome to the Top 10, Paul Pierce.

The most improved player award this season will probably go to the Suns' 6-foot-8 Boris Diaw, who since escaping from Atlanta has more than doubled his production across the board while ranking second to LeBron James among forwards with 5.9 assists per game.

But I've long thought that the league's best players should receive more consideration for the award, because the quality of improvement that Pierce has demonstrated is rare and influential. There are a lot of good players like Diaw, but there are very few who reach the elite level that the 6-6 Pierce is achieving this season.

No other NBA player is leading his team in points (27.2), rebounds (6.9), assists (4.6) and steals (1.4). Pierce and Allen Iverson are the only players who have scored at least 15 points in every game this season. Critics who argued that Pierce didn't belong in the All-Star Game because of the Celtics' losing record (26-35 as of Thursday) were missing the larger point: that he has single-handedly kept his young team competitive. Try to imagine how bad the Celtics would be without Pierce's virtuosity. "We would be thinking about [Adam] Morrison and J.J. Redick and whoever else is going to be the first pick in the draft," admits coach Doc Rivers.

With the aid of a couple of NBA scouts, I was able to come up with only three shooting guards or small forwards -- Kobe Bryant, James and Dwyane Wade -- worth rating ahead of or equal to Pierce this season. He is more reliable than Tracy McGrady, tougher than Vince Carter and more versatile than Iverson, Michael Redd or Ray Allen. If ballots were being collected today, Pierce would be a second-team All-NBA small forward and therefore among the Top 10 players in the league.

This amounts to a huge U-turn in the arc of Pierce's career. Ten months ago he showed no leadership while getting himself kicked out of Game 6 of an opening-round playoff series at Indiana before making a fool of himself at the resulting press conference (wearing a bandage around his head to make fun of the altercation), and then yelling at Rivers in the huddle during a Game 7 blowout loss at home. Rumors of a proposed trade that would have sent him to Portland (for the No. 3 pick to be used on Chris Paul along with Nick Van Exel's expiring contract) were quashed not by Pierce -- though he instructed his agent to tell both teams he didn't want to go to Portland -- but by Blazers owner Paul Allen, who I'm told was turned off by Pierce's negative reputation.

After Pierce and Ray Allen were quoted last year as saying that players should be paid for representing their country during international tournaments, the USA Basketball selection committee decided that it would consider Allen as a future candidate for the national team but that it had no interest in Pierce, who had essentially been blacklisted after being seen as a negative influence during the 2002 World Championships in Indianapolis.

So convincing is Pierce's renaissance that the committee last month reversed its position and offered him one of the 23 invitations to the tryout camp from which this summer's World Championship will be drawn. "That's the great thing about America," says Pierce, who maintains he isn't surprised by his newfound reputation. "You can see a guy hit rock bottom and rise to the top so fast, just with a change of heart, a change of attitude. I truly believe that if you want to be a certain way and turn things around, or if you want to continue in a negative direction, then that's going to happen. Everything is all about what you focus on and what you put your mind to."

On Wednesday night Pierce unloaded a triple-double (10 assists, 12 rebounds and 31 points on 18 shots) in a 104-101 win over the visiting 76ers. He spent most of the game creating opportunities for 6-7 rookie power forward Ryan Gomes, a second-rounder who produced a career-high 29 points mainly because Pierce kept finding him under the basket. The Celtics were trailing 97-90 with 2:19 left when Pierce took over with 8 points in the final 90 seconds, despite the fatigue of playing 87 minutes in back-to-back games, the first of which he won with a 22-footer at the overtime buzzer in Washington on Tuesday.

The Celtics advanced to the Eastern Conference finals in '01-02 with Antoine Walker leading as a point forward, but Pierce is turning out to be a far more efficient and reliable conductor than his former teammate. His intelligence used to be questioned when he was little more than a one-dimensional scorer, but now -- against mediocrities like Philadelphia, at least -- he makes the game look easy. He plays under control and demonstrates a sense of knowing when and how to exploit defensive pressure. Pierce is shooting a career-high 48 percent, even though he's never had fewer weapons around him.

It's easy to laud Pierce in the midst of his ongoing franchise-record streak of 30 points or more in 13 of the last 14 games. But even he anticipates harder times to come as his performances inevitably slump and his young teammates struggle to help him. "I'm just like everybody, I'm going to have negative thoughts and sometimes I'm going to voice negativity," he says. "But for the most part I'm going to be more positive than negative. Sometimes you've got to let [teammates] know how hard it is and how much you've got to want it in order to be a winner. When you're losing there's going to be some negative stuff that's going to come out, but the guys have got to learn how to take it and move on."

Do the Celtics realize what they have in the 28-year-old, five-time All-Star? If they invest draft picks in more young players such as Al Jefferson and Gerald Green, who are years away from maturing into reliable teammates, then that means they're willing to squander his peak years. Instead, they need to consider packaging their lottery pick in this year's draft with Jefferson and other pieces to acquire players capable of helping Pierce to make a deep playoff run over the next two to three years.

For a long time people have questioned whether Pierce could elevate his game to the standards of great Celtics past. Now the issue has shifted to whether or not Celtics management has the vision to construct a team that meets Pierce's high standards. We'll find out this summer.
Said it with my first post in this thread. Time to trade him Boston. If not then bring the pieces in to help him. You know come to think of it Paul is from southern California perhaps the Lakers should package Lamar Odom and some other players and perhaps next years first round selection for Paul. That'd be a deadly combo. The trick would be the ballhandling and of course distributing the shot selection.
post #136 of 144
that would be a terrible trade for boston if it ever happened. i know they've done basically nothing with pierce his entire time there but trading him for lamar odom type of player's won't help.

10 in a row for the heat. can anybody actually see a team besides the heat and pistons making it to the east conference finals? maybe the pacers if o'neal is healthy for the playoffs.
post #137 of 144
Larry Brown's gonna love this...

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Mar 12, 2006 8:3am ET
Marbury: I’ll Play My Way
David Waldstein of the NEWARK STAR-LEDGER reports, “It's probably the last thing Larry Brown wants to hear from Stephon Marbury, but last night the point guard said his efforts to change his game have not produced positive results and he is planning to go back to being Starbury -- the shoot-first, attack-the rim, 20-point-a-game scorer who has been a missing person this year. "I went into this year trying to do something, to put myself in a situation where we can win, Okay?" he said, "to help the team win games. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. So, what do I do now, as far as the way I play? I go back to playing like Stephon Marbury, aka Starbury. I haven't been Starbury this year. I've been some other dude this year."
http://www.nj.com/knicks/ledger/inde...480.xml&coll=1
post #138 of 144
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Yes yes YES!

I wanna see this Knicks thing EXPLODE!

I always love it when a player speaks of himself in FOURTH person perspective.
post #139 of 144
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Originally posterd by fabfunk
I wanna see this Knicks thing EXPLODE!
tick, tick, tick, tick...


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FOXSports.com
Posted: 38 minutes ago

Larry Brown fired back in anger after Stephon Marbury said, among other things, that he needs freedom on offense, according to The New York Times.

"Look, I've been coaching how many years?" said Brown, whose Hall-of-Fame career spans three decades. "I never left a team in worse shape than I got it. Not one. Now think about that. Think about me and think about the guy who's talking," he said, referring to Marbury. "I never left a team in worse shape. Never asked anything of my players any different than I'm doing right now. Think about that. Think about that."
The Times says it was Brown's strongest, angriest, and most honest appraisal of a feud that became a back-page staple in the Big Apple not long after the start of the NBA season.

"So the bottom line is, I want us to rebound, defend, share the ball, play hard. That's all. If you can't do that, if that's not important enough to you, it's not on me. It's not on me. And you owe it to your teammates to do that every single night if you care about the right things. We're 17-45, all right? So we've got to figure out a way to get better."

Brown's tirade came in response to Marbury's recent cry for more freedom on offense. The star guard, citing the Knicks' poor record, also said that playing Brown's way has not worked, and that he would go back to playing as Starbury, the nickname he has given himself.

Monday, Brown generally deflected questions about Marbury saying, "I'm hopeful that he will step up and be Starbury." But on Tuesday, Brown left little doubt that if the relationship can't be mended, he does not intend to be the one to leave town.

You can bet that the Knicks will actively shop for a Marbury trade this summer.
post #140 of 144
I swear, Steve Nash is a machine.

By far one of the best and most consistent players in the league today.
post #141 of 144
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More on Marbury v. Brown

Marbury sits in the fourth quarter and TWO overtimes.

If you listen to the other players, even they're making comments about how much they enjoyed playing without Marbury.

I love how all these articles end with, "I guess it's time to trade Marbury!" Isn't it obvious that they've probably tried that already? NO ONE will take him. I'm surprised it's taken this long for people to realize just how dense and ineffectual Marbury is. If I'm a coach, I don't need to hear that I've been keeping my star player from using his superhero name.

Brown is playing hardball, though. He really should be critiquing the entire team, because it's their fault they take after "Starbury".
post #142 of 144
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Jamal Mashburn officially retires.

And I'm really surprised at how bad the Warriors have been this year. I haven't had a chance to check them out, but they have a lot more talent than most of the teams in the West. Is this poor coaching? Is Baron Davis some sort of team cancer?

Also, of course, been reading about the Knicks. They forsee a trading bonanza this summer with all their "tradeable" commodities (i.e. Francis, Jalen Rose, etc.) The question is, what NBA executive doesn't realize that every Knick is a malcontent? There is not a single player on this squad that makes his teammates better. Larry Brown's been sitting Francis, Rose and Marbury a lot lately, even though Francis demands a starting spot next year (which is hilariously presumptuous). Seriously, who would trade for any of these guys?
post #143 of 144
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I just thought this was funny, if irrelevant- from nerve.com's Scanner...

This Washington Post story "Wizards' Threesome Does in Jazz" is supposedly about the Utah Jazz losing. And yet, as a wizards- and threesome-loving Scanner reader writes in, there seems to be more going on. The Wizards' Gilbert Arenas is quoted as saying, "I just said, 'Forget about it, I'll just start taking threes. And they went in. We got hot. Antawn got hot. Caron got hot and I got hot." We should really watch more basketball.
post #144 of 144
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With the season drawing to a close, and Keith Van Horn out for the year, it looks like the Mavs are in negotiations with a familiar face: Shawn Kemp.
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