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post #1 of 37
10/22/02 at 3:39pm
Thread Starter 
Yes, Brett Ratner thinks he is Richard Donner: He really spills the beans with this interview with Clint at Moviehole.net and it looks like Rush Hour 3 could be filmed in Australia.....

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Q. First off, I've heard a rumor the last few days that Edward Norton might be playing Lex Luthor in "Superman"?

A: That would be great. He's a little young though. He's definitely not Superman – but I like the Luthor idea. I suppose people are saying this because we worked on Red Dragon together, but no, it's good.

Q. Any other thoughts on casting yet for "Superman"?

A: No. It's too early. I just got the job like two weeks ago. I'm not talking to any actors. I'm going to do a search for Superman – maybe an unknown – and surround him with a great Lex Luthor and a great Jimmy Olsen. I might just find Superman on the New York Stage or something.

Q. And what about Christopher Reeve, will he get a cameo?

A. I've had a lot of people ask me. That would be nice. I don't know what he could do – he's kind of capacitated.

Q. Do you think you'll still be casting an unknown for the role?

A: It's possible. That's what I'd like to do. People want to see a character, not a movie star.

Q. So how far along is "Superman" anyway?

A. The scripts almost there. I'm just casting, crewing up, getting it together.

Q. What's your take on the script that was floating around the net?

A. Oh god. Yeah, that wasn't even a draft. It was ridiculous. Some old script – someone with too much time on his or her hands. I mean I agree with some stuff, I mean some of it spilt over into my script, but Lex Luthor is NOT going to be an Alien and we ARE blowing up Krypton. It keeps the law that people know but it goes a step further. I can do the f**k I want. I mean I have DC Comics and all the creators of the cartoon behind me. Some people aren't going to like it, that's inevitable. Thing is, I know it'll be a boring movie if I just remake Dick Donner's film, because it's already done. I mean I haven't changed it much at all – I just added some new sh*t, so how can anyone be mad at me. And we're talking about the trilogy – it's full on. Conference calls with the studio and Jon Peters and...

Q. So Jon Peters is still attached (trying not to laugh)?

A. Yes.

Q. So are you basically remaking the first one or are you starting afresh?

A. It's a re-inventor but it's based on the story, "The Death of Superman". It's going to have the old mythology, but it's not going to be camp, it's going to be a bit more psychological. More traumatic and it's going to be darker.

Q. Are there any other Superhero features you'd be interested in?

A. I would have loved to have done "The Hulk"– that will be a cool movie. I like Batman. Batman Vs Superman was going to be done.

Q. Someone told me that it's not going to happen now at all?

A. No I don't think so. Wolfgang (Peterson) really wanted to do it. I mean who really wants to see an Old Batman and an Old Superman. "Batman: Year One" would be good though.

As well as what's happening with "Rush Hour 3"

Q. You have "Rush Hour 3" coming up. When's that?

A. After "Superman" I think. I'm working on a script now. This time we're going to put them somewhere where they're both out of water. The first one it was Jackie in L.A, the second one it was Chris in Hong Kong. Possibly Australia.

Q. So even though you’re doing "Rush Hour 3" is there anything inside you that says 'hey, I really don't want to do this?'

A. I mean everyone is saying 'you don't want to do Rush Hour 3'. But I created Rush Hour, I love it, I'm not a snob. I mean I'm following the same career path as Richard Donner – Superman, The Omen, and Lethal Weapon.

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hahahhaha - The last answer is a gem.

Oi!
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post #2 of 37
10/22/02 at 3:42pm
Quote:
Mick_Dundee:
I mean who really wants to see an Old Batman and an Old Superman.
Me.
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post #3 of 37
10/22/02 at 3:48pm
Am I the only one irritated by this string of Brett Ratner threads?

I wish we saw more threads about actual good films and good filmmakers these days...
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post #4 of 37
10/22/02 at 3:50pm
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I can do the f**k I want.
Well that's encouraging. We can all relax now. Brett can do what the fuck he wants.
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post #5 of 37
10/22/02 at 3:51pm
Make that three for the old supes vs. old batman film.
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post #6 of 37
10/22/02 at 3:53pm
Thread Starter 
Just you Tony....
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post #7 of 37
10/22/02 at 3:54pm
I seriously doubt the authenticity of that interview.
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post #8 of 37
10/22/02 at 3:57pm
Thread Starter 
Q. And what about Christopher Reeve, will he get a cameo?

A. I've had a lot of people ask me. That would be nice. I don't know what he could do – he's kind of capacitated.

This guy is full of respect!

But to show you his lack of intelligence, here it is:

ca·pac·i·tate :
To render fit or make qualified; enable.
Biology. To cause (spermatozoa) to undergo the physical changes needed to penetrate and fertilize an egg.

So If Reeves is Qualified and fit, that would mean he's good for the job..

Gosh, Ratner really is educated....
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post #9 of 37
10/22/02 at 4:02pm
Thread Starter 
And we shall fight for the good of Justice....

Internet Movie sites united as one.....

We shall never back down. Superman would never do that in a time like this.
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post #10 of 37
10/22/02 at 5:43pm
Here's my favorite bit of the interview:

Quote:
Mick_Dundee:
Q. What's your take on the script that was floating around the net?

A. Oh god. Yeah, that wasn't even a draft. It was ridiculous. Some old script – someone with too much time on his or her hands. I mean I agree with some stuff, I mean some of it spilt over into my script, but Lex Luthor is NOT going to be an Alien and we ARE blowing up Krypton. It keeps the law that people know but it goes a step further. I can do the f**k I want. I mean I have DC Comics and all the creators of the cartoon behind me. Some people aren't going to like it, that's inevitable.
Ratner's a douche.

Not only does he know EXACTLY what draft I read (the only draft, at this point, since JJ hasn't turned in a revision yet), but he seems quite happy to tell all of fandom to fuck themselves.

"I can do what the fuck I want. I mean, I have DC Comics and all the creators of the cartoon behind me."

Bullshit. You mean Dini and Burnett? Who you've never spoken with, you fucking child? They're "behind" you? Maybe, but I'm guessing they're preparing a garotte.

When he says that Luthor is not an alien, he says it like that was a foregone conclusion.

If I'd never written about the script, and if the overwhelming reaction from fans hadn't been so strong, that might not be true.

Brett can try and play down what happened all day, but the truth is that if he insists on slagging Chris Reeve for being "capacitated" and he continues to try to half-lie about things, he's going to get called on it.

Also... nice cume gross on RED DRAGON, Ratner. I guess you didn't really want to hit $100 million in the US. You're happy with the way things worked out, right?

... right?!
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post #11 of 37
10/22/02 at 5:55pm
"Maybe, but I'm guessing they're preparing a garotte." --Moriarty

Post of the day!
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post #12 of 37
10/22/02 at 5:59pm
The more interviews I read with Bret Ratner them more I dislike him as a personality. And, the sad part is I like the Rush Hour flicks. They are pure dumb fun.

Oh, and add me to the list that wants to see an old Supes and Batman. Although, that would be The Dark Night Returns, not Batman Vs. Superman. BVsS is suppossed to be more World's Finest from everything I have read, not Old Supes and Old Bats going at it.

Ughh, Hey Moriarty, thanks for reviewing the script and letting all of us know what hell the WB was/is doing with Superman.
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post #13 of 37
10/22/02 at 6:01pm
While I do think it's fun to piss on Ratner, I'm as irritated as Verbal by the multiplication of threads about the douchebag. It's more attention than he deserves.
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post #14 of 37
10/22/02 at 6:04pm
Quote:
Virgil 'Blunt' Abrizza:
While I do think it's fun to piss on Ratner, I'm as irritated as Verbal by the multiplication of threads about the douchebag. It's more attention than he deserves.
Ditto. Can we just make a "Brett Ratner HATE" forum and be done with it?
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post #15 of 37
10/22/02 at 6:12pm
Quote:
Virgil 'Blunt' Abrizza:
While I do think it's fun to piss on Ratner, I'm as irritated as Verbal by the multiplication of threads about the douchebag. It's more attention than he deserves.
I think it's just because he's been particularly vocal lately, flapping his yap about every damn thing. The more press he does, the more ridiculous comments he makes, setting off more of these threads.

He should just hunker down and get to the hard work of redeveloping that script.

NOW.
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post #16 of 37
10/22/02 at 7:01pm
Boy, with Reeves "capacitated", maybe a "re-inventor" of the Superman story isn't such a bad idea. If this interview actually happened, is completely authentic and nothing is elaborated or typoed, then I weep for Superman.
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post #17 of 37
10/22/02 at 7:46pm
Thread Starter 
Thanks Moriaity for your comments... always welcomed here...

Ratner loves to talk shit. And when he is charge of the some of the biggest properties on the development slate (Superman, Rolling Stones), you can only weep a tear for those projects..

Also Red Dragon cost $70 millon to make, $30 to advertise. And for a film to be profitable it usually needs to make 3 times its budget. So with the film currently on the horizon to end with around $94 Million, this was a big disappointmnet by all those involved.

I wanna see Ratner explain that! Talk some shit now Ratner!
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post #18 of 37
10/22/02 at 7:51pm
OK, we're all in agreement. Let's waste him.
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post #19 of 37
10/22/02 at 7:52pm
I want to kill him because of the motherfucking Stones movie. He's a dead man if he makes that thing.
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post #20 of 37
10/22/02 at 7:53pm
Can we hire a hitman through Paypal, or would someone like to volunteer to do the job himself/herself? If he makes a pass through Washington DC we can make it look like a sniper attack... no questions asked.
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post #21 of 37
10/22/02 at 7:54pm
Quote:
caseyko74:

Oh, and add me to the list that wants to see an old Supes and Batman. Although, that would be The Dark Night Returns, not Batman Vs. Superman.
Or Kingdom Come
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post #22 of 37
10/22/02 at 7:58pm
Kingdom Come would fucking rock!

I would probably rather see Dark Knight Returns, but Kingdom Come would definitely kick much ass. However, it would cost about 300 mill + to make IMHO and has a shitload of characters, so I really really doubt we'll ever see it.

Dark Knight is a much better chance.
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post #23 of 37
10/22/02 at 8:27pm
Quote:
Cheese Biscuits:
Can we hire a hitman through Paypal, or would someone like to volunteer to do the job himself/herself?
I know a fellow...he calls himself Echelon.
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post #24 of 37
10/22/02 at 8:29pm
He also needs to stop talking like a 14-year-old from the valley. When teenagers say "like" in just about every other sentence, it's tolerable. In a grown-ass man, it just makes him sound incompetent.
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post #25 of 37
10/22/02 at 8:36pm
I am SICK and TIRED of reading about Brett Ratner. DOn't you people anything better to do?
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post #26 of 37
10/22/02 at 8:43pm
Quote:
Andrew 'moovyphreak' Molinaro:
I am SICK and TIRED of reading about Brett Ratner. DOn't you people anything better to do?
Well, it doesn't take a lot of effort to diss on Ratner. I can do better things as I insult him.
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post #27 of 37
10/22/02 at 9:02pm
Ratner should kill two birds with one stone and actually make Superman also Rush Hour 3. Jackie Chan would be called in to assist "CIA Special Agent Dr. Alexander Luthor III, esq." in hunting down whatever.

After their first encounter with the villianous Superman (it's a "dark" character, to compliment the "dark" tone Ratner is going for) ends with Chan getting his ass kicked with Super-fu, he calls in his buddy Chris Tucker for backup. Tucker stands around makes wisecracks that are sure to crack up anyone in the key 15-16 1/2 demographic and has one really big fight scene where he and Superman are handcuffed togther to fight the Kryptonian that popped out of Luthor's chest.

Afterward Ratner would say "like" about 16 times every interview he has defending his reimagining of Rush Hour from the internet, firebomb Richard Donner's house, destroy the negative of Donner's Superman, move beyond Wes and PT Andreson and begin comparing himself to DeMille and Hitchcock, talk to Carson Daly while wearing a tee shirt emblazoned with the image of Jackie Chan wearing a Superman shirt, physically assault Chris Reeve, recreate Alatamont with Aerosmith playing the Stones, and eat your household pets. That should cover any future atrocities he could possibly commit. So now let's all smirk, knowing that Bret has a special place in hell reserved for him.
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post #28 of 37
10/22/02 at 9:24pm
Quote:
Andrew 'moovyphreak' Molinaro:
I am SICK and TIRED of reading about Brett Ratner. DOn't you people anything better to do?
Amen.

They're making the guy more popular than he should be.
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post #29 of 37
10/22/02 at 11:25pm
Deep Down all of you, like , love the ratner and want to have ten thousand of his babies.
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post #30 of 37
10/22/02 at 11:58pm
Thread Starter 
I smell a Ra, Ra....Ratner! Yes, a Rat!!! It dosn't take much detective work to discover that Brett is living up to his nickname.

Message to Tony: The more Ratner speaks like a 14 teen year old, the more places and countries he gives interviews and talks down on every topic on the planet, the more he will be discussed here and the more he will become Hollywood's most infamous Villian since..... <Insert name of Hollywood Tyrant here>

Oi!
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post #31 of 37
10/23/02 at 12:31am
Quote:
Tony 'The Fist' Delpino:
Quote:
Andrew 'moovyphreak' Molinaro:
I am SICK and TIRED of reading about Brett Ratner. DOn't you people anything better to do?
Amen.

They're making the guy more popular than he should be.
What else is there to talk about around here?
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post #32 of 37
10/23/02 at 2:30am
Oh, really now. If any of us had anything better to do, would we be loitering around here?
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post #33 of 37
10/23/02 at 2:57am
Quote:
Mick_Dundee:
Thing is, I know it'll be a boring movie if I just remake Dick Donner's film, because it's already done.
Isn't that what he just did with Manhunter, a movie which did not need a remake of any shape or form?
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post #34 of 37
10/23/02 at 2:59am
THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY THAT RUSH HOUR 3 WILL BE IN AUSTRALIA!

At the end of Rush Hour 2, Lee tells Carter that he's always wanted to go to NEW YORK [City] and see the Knicks play!

Please don't tell me that Ratner pussyfooted just like all the other directors in changing their movies cuz of 9/11. All the changes made in other movies just because of 9/11 didn't make me feel any better about it.

AND I STILL THINK RUSH HOUR 3 SHOULD BE WHERE THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO: NEW YORK, NEW YORK!



Oh, Ratner will soon join the league of the Nation's Skewered up the ass just like Schmuncher (whatever his name is) did for BATMAN FOREVER and BATMAN & ROBIN if he thinks he can get that piece-of-shit script off the ground.

Suck it Ratner!
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post #35 of 37
10/24/02 at 11:22am
I just saw this at coming attractions:
"When Ratner said "I have DC Comics and all the creators of the cartoon behind me," he may not have been exaggerating. This is where our man comes in the picture. We'll leave him tell you what he told us in his own words (hiding his name for the sake of anonymity):
"I work at Warner Brothers, and I can reveal as well as Jon Peters, Brett Ratner will also be backed up on the producing stakes by regular contributors to his movies, Andrew Z Davies, Terry Needham and James M Frietag. Also producing the movie is the team of Alan Burnett, Paul Dini and Bruce Timm, fresh off the Batman/Superman Animated series.

"Ratner had talks on Monday and has now selected, with some assistance from Peters, a Production Designer and a Cinematographer. Tony Burrough {A Knight's Tale, The Santa Clause 2} will be Production Designer on the movie, with regular Ratner contributor Steve Saklad operating as Art Director. The Cinematographer will be Adam Greenberg, who was also Director of Photogaraphy on The Santa Clause 2, but more recently has worked on Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines for Warner Brothers.

"I think Ratner, or Warners will officially announce this soon."

[Thanks to name withheld.]

spooky.
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post #36 of 37
10/27/02 at 9:10pm
Kick, because Paul Dini has issued a very politic denial that he has anygoddamnthing to do with the movie:

<a href="http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53754" target="_blank">Dini, Timm, & Burnett Not Involved in Live-Action Superman Film</a>

"I guess the secret's out." said Paul Dini. "Fresh from turning in a small but miniscule role as a video store clerk in Jersey Girl, I've been cast as Mr. Mxyzptlk in the new Superman flick. There. Now everyone knows."

"Actually that's a total lie. (Well, not the Jersey Girl part.) I'm just funning with you." Dini said. "I'm not working on the live Superman film in any way though I certainly support J.J. Abrams and Brett Ratner and wish them all the best with it. I know J.J. and based on his enthusiasm and what little he's told me about his latest script draft, it sounds like they have an awesome picture in the works."
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post #37 of 37
10/27/02 at 11:44pm
Just when I think the Ratner threads are out of control and that the hate given to him is WAY overboard, I see another atrocious pompous and asshole interview with the man and realize that he is indeed everything that us movie buffs abhore.

He's a hired studio gun devoid of much genuine talent or artistic skill interested inly in putting asses in seats no matter how bad the film. He is seemingly not very intelligent (Reeves is capacitated) and yet doesn;t realize that enough to shut up. He has an arrogant and ridiculous habit of comparing himself to his betters as if they were equals (Scorsese, PTA, Kubrick, and now Donner) and he's all around clueless. He thinks that audiences are just as dumb as he is, and that's the real problem.
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