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post #51 of 88
10/27/05 at 9:09pm
Is it Predator? Don't know if it's number 1, but it should be on the list.
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post #52 of 88
10/28/05 at 5:27am
I'm taking this list as a plea for better horror movies.

I appreciate the time and effort put into the list, but some of these are far from great. Some are craptacular.
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post #53 of 88
10/28/05 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
And I've been meaning to post number one, but time caught up with me, and I haven't been able to write the last one. Maybe someone can guess it. A clue is that it's not a FRIDAY THE 13TH film.
I'll be calling bullshit on this, Fab. You can post this, but you can't copy and paste your number 1? Flagrant attention seeking is one thing, lying is another, and being so dim as to post that you don't have enough time to post is really quite spectacular.

And, seriously, with all this work put in, did you try and submit this as a chewer column? You would have been on the main page and everything.

Edit: oh wait - you haven't WRITTEN it yet? Written 99, but not the last 1? Again: bullshit.
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post #54 of 88
10/28/05 at 7:34am
Friday the 13th is a Beowulf parable? That's really stretching.
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post #55 of 88
10/28/05 at 7:59am
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Originally Posted by johnnycinco
I appreciate the time and effort put into the list, but some of these are far from great. Some are craptacular.
Indeed. A world where Puppet Master is deemed one of the greatest horror movies of the last 20 years is a sad, sad world. Both versions of The Grudge? Both versions of Night Watch? The eminently forgettable Deathwatch? Rawhead fucking Rex?

A better title would be "A List Of 100 Horror Movies That Exist".
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post #56 of 88
10/28/05 at 9:12am
The first Puppet Master is an adequate monster movie, but by no means is it particularly good. I do stand by the fact that the puppets are some of the neatest monster designs in recent memory, particularly ol' Torch and Six-Shooter, from II and III, respectively.
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post #57 of 88
10/28/05 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by Dan Whitehead

A better title would be "A List Of 100 Horror Movies That Exist".
"A List of 100 Horror Movies That I've Seen"

His first mistake is assuming there were enough good horror movies released since 1984 to produce a top 100. A top 25 list would be more appropriate.
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post #58 of 88
10/28/05 at 12:18pm
I don't know if I could even stretch to 25.
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post #59 of 88
10/28/05 at 12:22pm
Well, you wouldn't want to exclude Killer Klowns From Outer Space...
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post #60 of 88
10/28/05 at 12:23pm
Thread Starter 
1. JACOB’S LADDER

Written by Bruce Joel Rubin
Directed by Adrian Lyne
USA
Jacob Singer still hasn’t recovered from Vietnam. Toiling away at a quiet job with a less-than-loving wife, he can’t overcome the specter of the war, nor can he forget the son that he lost at such a young age. But soon, it won’t matter, as Jacob is soon assaulted by the most vicious and terrifying of hallucinations, no less than the sights and sounds of a pure, inescapable Hell. When his sights start to become more and more intense, lives are at stake, and Jacob can’t reconcile with the threat that perhaps the government has tested him and his colleagues. Adrian Lyne’s nightmarish vision of a life led by the sights of Satan is blessed with a graceful, eloquent script, and a moving, jarring performance by Tim Robbins, and features some of the most unerrving images in cinema history, creating an unforgettable visceral ride through terror.
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post #61 of 88
10/28/05 at 2:11pm
With the advent of VHS over 20 years ago, the term "of my generation" seems bafflingly reductive and willfully limiting. I was born in 1976 but everyone in my generation's seen Psycho. Why limit it to your generation (as you've done many many tims before I think) ? It's not really a gimmick since it misses out myriad classics anyone into horror would care to hear commented upon. It's also not very innovative since all it seems to indicate is that post-1984 is a stretch for more than about 50 really classic genre pictures and the pre-1984 ones aren't really worth bothering with. It's an inconsistent and dishonest thesis to say the least, if it's trying to be authoritative.

I mean, slasher films so prevelnat in this generation, beginning a legacy stretching back before Twitch Of The Death Nerve to The Spiral Staricase. What's the point in not acknowledging something like that ? It's like post-modern revisionism fucking the bloody vagina of objectivity with the broken bottle of limited subjectivity.

Though I guess you get points for effort and I can't complain about #1.

Is this for some kind of CV credit, "Writer, 100 Greatest Horror Films - CHUD.com", os something ?

Seems awfully autistic. Why not just not be a dick for a while and try and submit it as a feature to Creature Corner ?
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post #62 of 88
10/28/05 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by Straxboy - An Anthony Hickox Film
Why not just not be a dick for a while and try and submit it as a feature to Creature Corner ?
The editor's a cunt. At least, that's what I heard.
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post #63 of 88
10/28/05 at 3:32pm
A man goes out of his way to make his list about movies he wants to in his terms and the complaints pile up like used condoms on a Minnesota charter boat. With friends like this, who needs talkbackers?
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post #64 of 88
10/28/05 at 4:01pm
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Originally Posted by Brian Wehman
... like used condoms on a Minnesota charter boat.
I have no idea what this means, but I think I like it.
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post #65 of 88
10/28/05 at 4:01pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Straxboy - An Anthony Hickox Film
With the advent of VHS over 20 years ago, the term "of my generation" seems bafflingly reductive and willfully limiting. I was born in 1976 but everyone in my generation's seen Psycho. Why limit it to your generation (as you've done many many tims before I think) ? It's not really a gimmick since it misses out myriad classics anyone into horror would care to hear commented upon. It's also not very innovative since all it seems to indicate is that post-1984 is a stretch for more than about 50 really classic genre pictures and the pre-1984 ones aren't really worth bothering with. It's an inconsistent and dishonest thesis to say the least, if it's trying to be authoritative.

I mean, slasher films so prevelnat in this generation, beginning a legacy stretching back before Twitch Of The Death Nerve to The Spiral Staricase. What's the point in not acknowledging something like that ? It's like post-modern revisionism fucking the bloody vagina of objectivity with the broken bottle of limited subjectivity.

Though I guess you get points for effort and I can't complain about #1.

The reason I limited it to my generation are personal reasons, which is why my approach to this list wasn't overly academic.

I was born in 1984. The years following eclipse my life, and I believe that by understanding the times that I've lived in, the ideas, motifs and struggles, I can better understand myself. And I think cinema is a reflection of modern society, with the horror genre being the most effective way to gauge a period. After all, every movie is a horror film, in that it features characters placed in predicaments in which you say, "Damn, I don't want to be in that situation." Horror is the most overt genre that features these ideas.

Also, the horror genre, post-Freddy, is fairly peculiar and worth discussing in a manner better than this list itself, and I hope that some of you find yourself doing so in the days leading up to Halloween.


Thanks for reading, everyone.
The reason I limited it to my generation are personal reasons, which is why my approach to this list wasn't overly academic.

I was born in 1984. The years following eclipse my life, and I believe that by understanding the times that I've lived in, the ideas, motifs and struggles, I can better understand myself. And I think cinema is a reflection of modern society, with the horror genre being the most effective way to gauge a period. After all, every movie is a horror film, in that it features characters placed in predicaments in which you say, "Damn, I don't want to be in that situation." Horror is the most overt genre that features these ideas.

Also, the horror genre, post-Freddy, is fairly peculiar and worth discussing in a manner better than this list itself, and I hope that some of you find yourself doing so in the days leading up to Halloween.
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post #66 of 88
10/28/05 at 4:03pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobClark
I have no idea what this means, but I think I like it.

I know EXACTLY what it means.

And it creeps me out.

Like sportswriters needed an excuse to reference CALIGULA.

(Points at unaware Chewers and laughs- "Nerds!").
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post #67 of 88
10/28/05 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
After all, every movie is a horror film, in that it features characters placed in predicaments in which you say, "Damn, I don't want to be in that situation." .
What about porn?
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post #68 of 88
10/29/05 at 2:15pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobClark
What about porn?

And so the hole in my thesis has been found... damn.
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post #69 of 88
10/29/05 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by Brian Wehman
With friends like this, who needs talkbackers?
Who said we were his friends?
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post #70 of 88
10/29/05 at 9:37pm
Rawhead Rex?
Come on, why go to all this effort if you are not going to take it seriously.
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post #71 of 88
10/30/05 at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by BobClark
What about porn?
I don't know about you, but when I see someone pull their tongue out of some guy's ass just in time to take a load of baby-batter in the face, I do think "I don't want to be in that situation."

Ah, who am I kidding? By that time I've already been asleep for fifteen minutes.
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post #72 of 88
10/30/05 at 4:46pm
There are always going to be disagreements and arguments whenever any of these top whatever threads are posted, but that was a really fun read, and I learned about a few movies I didn't even know existed before. Thanks fabfunk, keep up the good work.
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post #73 of 88
12/26/05 at 11:17pm
I'll echo the love for this flick. Was wondering, though...I didn't see it on your original post of movies you didn't catch (and thus couldn't consider for this list)....Was "Pumpkinhead" before the 1984 cut-off? If not, where would you throw that one? I happen to think it's a neat little movie. Nothing groundbreaking or anything, but you have Lance Henriksen as a lead and Stan Winston directing (?!) from a relatively tight script.

As for the Puppet Master ranking, I thought that PM III was superior to the first two. But I'm strange like that.

You should check out the first Warlock flick. Decent little movie.
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post #74 of 88
12/27/05 at 2:36pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by teledork
I'll echo the love for this flick. Was wondering, though...I didn't see it on your original post of movies you didn't catch (and thus couldn't consider for this list)....Was "Pumpkinhead" before the 1984 cut-off? If not, where would you throw that one? I happen to think it's a neat little movie. Nothing groundbreaking or anything, but you have Lance Henriksen as a lead and Stan Winston directing (?!) from a relatively tight script.

I was largely nonplussed with PUMPKINHEAD. I thought it was ok, just outside my 100... I shopuld see it again. I saw it in a period in which, in preparation for this list, I was gorging on eighties horror, and this was at the tail end of this phase, so I was pretty worn out on the tropes and genre staples of the period. I do recall totally shutting out CRITTERS during this phase. Didn't like that AT ALL.
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post #75 of 88
1/16/06 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch
This list loses a lot of credibility right around #45.
Truth.
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post #76 of 88
1/16/06 at 3:31pm
Normally I like PJs stuff, but Dead Alive was total shit.
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post #77 of 88
1/16/06 at 7:14pm
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Originally Posted by Scratch
Well, Halloween started it, and did it the best.
Hate to be anal, but I believe a movie called BLACK CHRISTMAS started the slasher flick genre rolling, preceding HALLOWEEN by 4 years. HALLOWEEN did do it best though.

That said, this is one comprehensive list. I would hate to imagine what kind of "personal reasons" would drive you to embark on such an endeavour.

DEAD END's worth watching though, it's a pretty funny and scary movie.
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post #78 of 88
1/16/06 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by phoenix_214
Normally I like PJs stuff, but Dead Alive was total shit.
Wrong.
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post #79 of 88
1/17/06 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by TheHonestTruth
Truth.
With a user name like that, my comment is now irrefutable. Etched in stone for all time.

TheHonestTruth, I salute you.
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post #80 of 88
1/18/06 at 8:26pm
Well done on the list -- I don't agree with it all (I'm sorry, Day of the Dead is NOT the #7 on that list.... it's just not...) but it's your POV, so more power to you.

At worst a very fun read. At best a reminder of movies I need to see, movies I want to see again and movies I should avoid like the plague.
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post #81 of 88
5/22/06 at 11:26am
Guy sent me this over the weekend. Couldn't find the 'Top 100 Best Deaths (?)' thread so I post it here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgt5233HjCs
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post #82 of 88
5/22/06 at 11:27am
Oh for fuck's sake.
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post #83 of 88
5/22/06 at 11:30am
Wait Fabfunk's only a year older than me? Shit man, I thought he was in his 30s.
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post #84 of 88
5/25/06 at 3:57am
I'm dissappointed that Gremlins didn't make the cut...
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post #85 of 88
5/25/06 at 5:36am
This post is scarier than any horror film released since fabfunk's birth. I'm gonna make my own list and put this at #1. fab and his list will round out the top 3.

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Originally Posted by Scratch
Thank you all. Thank you for that very gracious and warm Camp Crystal Lake welcome. I'm honored to be here tonight; I appreciate you all coming.

Tonight I want to take a few minutes to discuss a grave threat to campers, and our scantily-clad, pot-smoking, oversexed counselors' determination to lead the world in confronting that threat.

The threat comes from Jason. It arises directly from the unstoppable supernatural killer's own actions -- his history of stabbing, and his drive toward an arsenal of terror. Twenty-six years ago, as a condition for ending his crazy mother's murderous rampage, Jason was required to destroy his weapons of mass evisceration, to cease all appropriation of such weapons from mutilated hunters and campground supply sheds, and to stop all support for serial killer groups. Jason has violated all of those obligations. He possesses and wields sharp and pointy weapons. He is seeking machetes and hatchets. He has wrapped people up in sleeping bags and smashed them against trees, and practices terror against teenaged people. The entire world has witnessed Jason's twenty-six year history of defiance, deception and bad faith.

We also must never forget the most vivid events of recent history. In 1989 in Manhattan, America felt its vulnerability -- even to threats that gather in wooded campgrounds. We resolved then, and we are resolved today, to confront every threat, from any source, that could smash an axe into the face of a wheelchair-bound teen and roll him down a flight of stairs.

Members of Camp Crystal Lake, and local Crystal Lake police authorities, agree that Jason is a threat to peace and must disarm. We agree that the undead serial killer must not be permitted to threaten campers and the world with horrible hunting knives and spearguns and cleavers and pitchforks. Since we all agree on this goal, the issues is : how can we best achieve it?

Many Americans have raised legitimate questions: about the nature of the threat; about the urgency of action -- why be concerned now; about the link between Jason squeezing someone's head until their eyeballs pop out, and the wider war on deformed zombie retard children with hockey masks. These are all issues we've discussed broadly and fully within my administration. And tonight, I want to share those discussions with you.

First, some ask why Jason is different from other serial killers that also have terrible weapons. While there are many slashers in the world, the threat from Jason stands alone -- because he gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place. Jason's weapons of stabby destruction are controlled by a murderous tyrant who has already used common household tools to kill thousands of people. This same tyrant has tried to dominate Freddy Krueger, has invaded and brutally occupied a space station, has struck other campgrounds without warning, and holds an unrelenting hostility toward the United States.

And so forth.
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post #86 of 88
5/25/06 at 6:13am
Thanks for that, fabfunk. I’m always happy to read lists such as these that come with brief synopses. They’re really helpful when there’s nothing new in at Blockbuster and I’m forced to mine shelves full of older material. There’s a lot of interesting stuff in your list I haven’t seen or heard of such as Little Otik.

I can't say I'm as enthusiastic as you are about some of the selections, but it was an enjoyable read.
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post #87 of 88
10/29/06 at 2:47pm
Thread Starter 
Figured I'd bump this for the season... if I were to re-edit the list, "The Descent" would definitely be high up there, as would "Slither". And maybe "Hostel".
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post #88 of 88
11/22/06 at 5:45am
I really need to just not be a stubborn prick and watch Hostel again. I know it wasn't bad at all. I know I even, at the very least, kind of enjoyed it at the time I saw it if not more. There was just too much hype when I saw it and too much talk of how it was inspired by Miike. I'm a HUGE Miike fan, so I was expecting far more than what I got. Still, I know I judged the movie too hard and have refused to give it a break since then. I need to try and view it more openly.
Roth's biggest fault right now is his mouth and the hype machine he likes to create. I have to admit, that I ended up loving Cabin fever after hating it intially due to the hype around it, mostly created by Roth himself.

The Descent definitly needs to go on your list. I can't totally fault anyone that has May at least in his top 20.
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