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post #1 of 44
Thread Starter 
Hey,

I recently made a film short film called, "Double Dip or: How Four Discs of Pearl Harbor Ruined My Life," which is funny short about the dangers of double dipping on DVDs.

Well, I'm curious, 'cuz I'm a huge movie fan, and a big DVD collector (over 250 DVDs so far)...but who out there double dips on DVDs? And if you double dip, which movies did you double dip on? Did you regret any double dips?
post #2 of 44
If you bought "Pearl Harbor" twice, you deserve to have your life ruined. Sorry, man.
post #3 of 44
with blu-ray right around the corner, I am not even single dipping on anything except the odd TV season that was never produced in HD. (adult swim stuff mostly)
post #4 of 44
I sure do, double-dip and sometimes even triple or quadruple-dip (Evil Dead series anyone) as my collection listed on DVDAF is sure to show.

Tullaryx's DVD Collection
post #5 of 44
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Originally Posted by futtbuck
with blu-ray right around the corner, I am not even single dipping on anything except the odd TV season that was never produced in HD. (adult swim stuff mostly)
Yes, because with blu-ray (or HDDVD) we'll finally have the ULTIMATE video technology with which everything imaginable will be produced on.

Oh, about double-dipping: Not if I can help it. I like to keep myself informed about the movies/tv shows I'm interested in owning on DVD, so when I hear about a planned release schedule (barebones version now, special edition later), or even hinted at, I usually wait. Sometimes it's unavoidable, though. I received X-Men 1 as a gift, then later bought X-Men 1.5 because I felt it was worth the added features.
post #6 of 44
Thread Starter 
Joe - well that's the point of the film. Go ahead and check it out: http://www.ragtagfilms.net/movies/do.../DoubleDip.wmv
post #7 of 44
I think he was referring less to the dip itself and more to the dubious quality of that film.
post #8 of 44
Indeed.
post #9 of 44
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Originally Posted by Charlie Brigden
I think he was referring less to the dip itself and more to the dubious quality of that film.
Right you are, Fett.
post #10 of 44
Rarely. I managed to wait about 5 years for the Heat 2-discer just cos I didn't see the point in shelling for the vanilla when there was obviously gonna be a better edition out and, hey presto, there it is. Same goes for The Truman Show cos I heard that a later DVD release would have the fake documentary in its entirety that makes up the actor profles at the beginning of the film (Laura Linney talking about her "blessed life"). Aparently though it isn't on the new special edition, so I might not even get that.

The only times I'll shell out for another copy of something is when I got the original release free, such as Se7en, or if a new cut of a beloved film comes out. I'll fork out for the Hellboy Director's Cut if it gets good press, hell I even bought the original 2-disc AND Director's cuts of Daredevil! (Hate me below)

But by and large, there are few films I feel I need to own immediately if there's gonna be something sweet around the corner (I nearly buy Sin City and Ocean's Twelve each time I see them, but I'm waiting for the Dogs Bollocks editions). Having said that, I got Kill Bill 1 & 2 and I'm sure I'll get the later, re-cut edition.

As for Pearl Harbour - I'll never buy that stink pile, no matter how shit hot the disc is. And your short film, while commendable for being shot in 24 hours, just isn't that funny. Sorry dude.
post #11 of 44
Yeah I do it occasionally. I did it with Ghostbusters even though it was such a shitty double dip. Ghostbusters is my favorite movie and there's not much merchandise afoot to geek out upon. I consider that one justified.

However my double-dip of Big Lebowski was not justified. I sold my original copy after hearing about the Achiever's Edition before hearing the specs. But since a collectible towel along with the price didn't excite me, I had to settle for the regular version that had a few cool pictures and a shitty tongue-in-cheek introduction.

Any other double dips were done due to replacing my DVDs. Last year all 150 of my DVDs were stolen along with a few hundred dollars worth of other stuff and during my insurance-paid replacing spree, I picked up all the special editions of whatever DVDs I wanted to replace. Clerks X took the taco for being the best replacement.
post #12 of 44
Never ever ever. Don't give a shit about the next gen DVD format. What pleases me is studios are rushing to get as much out on the current format so they can gouge again on the next one. Works fine for me. I'm happy with DVD quality.

I never double dip. I held out for three years knowing there had to be a new edition of Office Space, and now there is. (Not that it's particularly "special".) I bought Kill Bill 1 and 2 knowing full well that they would be released again in future. I held off on the two diskers of LOTR to buy the four disk. Same with Pearl Harbor.

There is only one movie I would ever double dip. That is Deep Rising.
post #13 of 44
I just watched the short film. That was absolutely hysterical!

Lots of good lines...
"When was the last time you showered?"
"Disc 2"

Definately show that around to all the movie geek forums for self-esteem raising.
post #14 of 44
Sure I do, but usually both of these criteria have to be in place:

1) A film that I absolutely love or at least warrants more than a passing interest

2) The new features justify another purchase; give me an interesting director's commentary and I'll eat it up
post #15 of 44
I only double dipped on LOTR, but one could make the argument that the theatricals are different enough from the EEs to warrant it. The special feature are also different.

However, I think all double dipping could be avoided with a little research (not to mention a little taste...Pearl Harbor..really?) The BATMAN BEGINS DVDs, both the one and two disc editions were the same price at Amazon when they came out. Why would someone spend the same to get less?

What pisses me off more than stuidos issuing multiple editions is when studios issue crappy DVDs in the US and nice ones overseas. I'm looking at you, Miramax. The VELVET GOLDMINE dvd doesn't have jackshit on it, and I actually would pay more for a commentary in its case. Oh well.
post #16 of 44
Thread Starter 
Well Miramax has lately been releasing a lot of special editions from their library, so I'd expect a Velvent Goldmine down the line. The Canadian Pulp Fiction DVD was loaded before the eventual US 2 disc edition came out.

As for me, I've double dipped one too many times, more often because I purchased an old movie and years later they decide to unleash a new edition. They'll release a double dip for anything...Legends of the Fall Special Edition???? Who's clamoring for that? I'm smart now and have been for awhile thanks to the wonderful internet and movie/DVD sites.


Some of my double dips:

True Romance
Die Hard Collection
Leon: The Professional - which can be argued just like LOTR because it's the European cut and not just some silly money-making "extended edition"
The Fifth Element
Top Gun
Jaws - although technically, I didn't purchase the first dvd myself, it was a present
Pearl Harbor - Yes, I am the sorry poor sap to double dip, and even buy this movie, but I enjoy Bay as a movie director and maker of popcorn fare. And yes, that short is based on me.
post #17 of 44
Just from the top of my head the double-dips in my collection are as follows...
  • Reservoir Dogs - 10th Anniversary Color Editions
  • Sin City
  • Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness
  • [I]Dawn of the Dead (original)
  • Heat
  • The Fifth Element
  • Zombie
  • Texas Chainsaw Massacre (original)
  • Escape from New York
  • Zulu
  • The Thing
  • Lord of the Rings: FOTR, TT, ROTK

I'm sure I have more double-dips in there somewhere, but those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head.
post #18 of 44
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Originally Posted by steeef
Yes, because with blu-ray (or HDDVD) we'll finally have the ULTIMATE video technology with which everything imaginable will be produced on.
Blu-Ray isn't necessarily the ULTIMATE (what ever would be? That is just your sarcastic hyperbole). But given the choice between buying Batman Begins now, or waiting a year for an HD version... I'll Netflix the NTSC version now, build an HD collection later. The ultimate double dip is coming for everyone who has been building a big collection of NTSC/PAL DVDs.

You can stick your tounge out at Blu-Ray/HDDVD, but when you get around to buying an HDTV, that NTSC/PAL DVD collection is going to look like worn out VHS tapes compared to the far higher resolution 720p/1080i HD discs. I don't understand the cynicism of people towards the next gen discs. Seriously, it's like you would RATHER see stuff jammed into a 4:3 masked letterbox or an anamorphic 480i blur.

One thing to look forward to though... Anchor Bay will surely release 6 more versions of Evil Dead 1 in HD.
post #19 of 44
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Originally Posted by futtbuck
You can stick your tounge out at Blu-Ray/HDDVD, but when you get around to buying an HDTV, that NTSC/PAL DVD collection is going to look like worn out VHS tapes compared to the far higher resolution 720p/1080i HD discs. I don't understand the cynicism of people towards the next gen discs. Seriously, it's like you would RATHER see stuff jammed into a 4:3 masked letterbox or an anamorphic 480i blur.
I know I'll probably end up purchasing the next-gen versions of my favorite films, but that doesn't mean I won't be bitter about the fact that it's coming out so soon after I've managed to build up a respectable DVD collection.
post #20 of 44
Its like you guys have never been burned by technology before. There will always be something on the horizon, and often times it will be potentially worth your while to re-buy something that you already own.

Looking back, I have owned the following copies of Aliens:
1 VHS tape
1 Special Edition Laserdisc set
1 Letterboxed Theatrical Edition laserdisc
1 Special Edition DVD from the 1st box set
1 Extended and Theatrical editions as part of the Quadrilogy

5 mother-grabbin times over an 18 year time frame. INSANITY.

Despite that (or because of it) I tend to research my purchases now to avoid the double dip. If its a Soderbergh or Cronenberg (or Peter Berg?) film I'll wait for the eventual release with the commentary track. Hell, I bought my first DVD player when the special edition of the Thing was announced.
post #21 of 44
I have done it a few times (Heat, Unforgiven, Shawshank Redemption etc.), but it's no big deal, because I end up giving the old ones to my friends or my mom
post #22 of 44
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Originally Posted by Tullaryx
Just from the top of my head the double-dips in my collection are as follows...
  • Sin City
You already double-dipped on Sin City? What, one copy wasn't enough for you? You must be like an advertisers dream...
post #23 of 44
I held out on purchasing Top Gun because I knew a bigger and better version was going to come some day.
post #24 of 44
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Originally Posted by sackley
You already double-dipped on Sin City? What, one copy wasn't enough for you? You must be like an advertisers dream...
My girlfriend thinks I'm an obsessive-compulsive dvd collector
post #25 of 44
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Originally Posted by FreeRobotSex
Yeah I do it occasionally. I did it with Ghostbusters even though it was such a shitty double dip. Ghostbusters is my favorite movie and there's not much merchandise afoot to geek out upon. I consider that one justified.
Preach it, brother-man. Only I never actually double-dipped on that one. Kept the original DVD. The only true redeeming feature of that set was the first release of some of the Real Ghostbusters episodes that I'm aware of in the format. The rest was just pablum...and mediocre pablum at that.

Cutting out the Don Shay Making Ghostbusters text commentary? Whafuck?


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Originally Posted by FreeRobotSex
However my double-dip of Big Lebowski was not justified. I sold my original copy after hearing about the Achiever's Edition before hearing the specs. But since a collectible towel along with the price didn't excite me, I had to settle for the regular version that had a few cool pictures and a shitty tongue-in-cheek introduction.
<<varf>>

Agreed there. Hang onto the original disc -- same doco, same flick, almost-as-good transfer. Plus the trailer, which got cut (?!) from the new release.

And what about all that Lebowski Fest '04 footage they were talking about including? What about rounding up Buscemi, Bridges, Huddleston, and/or Goodman (and maybe Turturro) for a new commentary? Or Deakins, for that matter (he did that Fargo track)? Surely after nearly a decade, they'd have SOME stories worth telling.

...Then again, this being Universal we're talking about, why am I so shocked?
post #26 of 44
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Originally Posted by johnnycinco
Its like you guys have never been burned by technology before. There will always be something on the horizon, and often times it will be potentially worth your while to re-buy something that you already own.

Looking back, I have owned the following copies of Aliens:
1 VHS tape
1 Special Edition Laserdisc set
1 Letterboxed Theatrical Edition laserdisc
1 Special Edition DVD from the 1st box set
1 Extended and Theatrical editions as part of the Quadrilogy
I'm with you, but I got that beat...but this is for the original 'Alien'...

1 Original 'pan and scan' VHS
1 Widescreen, "the way it's supposed to be seen..." VHS


1 Widescreen copy in 'The Alien Trilogy' boxset, complete with Facehugger case...
...look at that baby, it's gorgeous...no way I'm EVER parting with it...
1 Alien Laser Disc Widescreen Pal Version (even though I don't own a laser disc! It was a cheap deal...)
1 Alien Legacy box set
1 Alien Quadrilogy box set
...and a potential purchase of it on PSP...it's only a matter of time..

OK...I'm clinically insane...
post #27 of 44
That Alien trilogy boxset is incredibly cool. If only the US had such cool packaging...
post #28 of 44
Here are the double dips I've been sucked in to...
-Starship Troopers
-Terminator 2(kept the "Ultimate" version after buying the "Extreme" version.)
-Basic Instinct(hey, it was cheap and the "special" packaging blew)
-Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
-All three the Lord of the Rings films(kept the theatrical cuts)
-Alien(after getting the Quad set I kept the 20th anniversary ed. for the Scott solo Commentary)
-the Matrix trilogy and the Animatrix(bought the boxed set)
I used to want the best possible versions with the most extras, but for the most part now I don't care. Too many double dips amount to lots of fluff and shitty packaging and/or artwork. If it's something I really really like I'll spring for it though, especially if a commentary or much-needed improved transfer is involved.

Some I will buy again...
-Kill Bill(and possibly other Tarantino films if commentaries are involved)
-Bound(as long as they do a nice new transfer and keep the old commentary)
-the Road Warrior
-Blade Runner(what the hell happened to the special edition that was in the works?)
-True Lies(same question as with Blade Runner)
-Sin City(hey, at least I got this one for free)
-Robocop(I have the Criterion, and it's great, but the transfer isn't the best)
Other than that, I think I'm done. I'm pretty good for the most part about waiting for the inevitable double dip. I held out with Trainspotting, Fargo, Titanic, and Unforgiven, just because I knew they be coming out at some point.
post #29 of 44
Only Hellboy. But I'm a fan.
post #30 of 44
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Originally Posted by Tom Roberts
Only Hellboy. But I'm a fan.
I've been wondering for a while now, but never found any reviews that compared and contrasted. How does the extended version compare with the original?
post #31 of 44
It's only subtle, but it does add more character. Liz gets a few more scenes and so does Rasputin and the baddies (the eye subplot is nice and kooky). So don't expect any missing action scenes or anything like that.

All in all, a slightly better film.

Oh and I prefer the Mignola / Del Toro commentary on the regular edition to the alternate Del Toro commentary on the extended edition. It's the only thing that is missing from the EE.
post #32 of 44
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Originally Posted by johnnycinco
Its like you guys have never been burned by technology before. There will always be something on the horizon, and often times it will be potentially worth your while to re-buy something that you already own.

Looking back, I have owned the following copies of Aliens:
1 VHS tape
1 Special Edition Laserdisc set
1 Letterboxed Theatrical Edition laserdisc
1 Special Edition DVD from the 1st box set
1 Extended and Theatrical editions as part of the Quadrilogy

5 mother-grabbin times over an 18 year time frame. INSANITY.

Despite that (or because of it) I tend to research my purchases now to avoid the double dip. If its a Soderbergh or Cronenberg (or Peter Berg?) film I'll wait for the eventual release with the commentary track. Hell, I bought my first DVD player when the special edition of the Thing was announced.

And I think next year they are supposed to be releasing HDDVD's I believe, or some other new wonderful format. So that means you will be buying it again.

Don't you just love Hollywood?
post #33 of 44
I've only double-dipped a handful of times. Like steeef up top, I like to keep myself informed of DVD goings-on. So if there's a Hellboy/Sin City case of multiple versions, I'll usually pass. Granted, Hellboy was an exception... but I'm a fan too.

I like to think of the LOTR releases as one big six-disc set per movie, so that doesn't really count.

Alien was a rare case, though. I bought the Quadrilogy after Christmas last year, but after Fox reissued the 20th Anniversary edition earlier this year with AvP, I plumped for it because of the Scott commentary and the isolated score(s). Most of the time, the extras have to be really special for me to sell the old one. I sold the first Enter the Dragon release because I had no need of an isolated score track since I had the FSM CD.

But the second that Blade Runner SE gets out of legal hell, the old copy's sold...
post #34 of 44
Thread Starter 
When the @#%@!#% is that new Blade Runner DVD coming out!? I'm dying for it. My guess is that it'll come out in 2007 for a 25th anniversary release.
post #35 of 44
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Originally Posted by action junkie
When the @#%@!#% is that new Blade Runner DVD coming out!? I'm dying for it. My guess is that it'll come out in 2007 for a 25th anniversary release.
This has been burning question for years.

Nobody knows the answer.
post #36 of 44
I can be seduced by the right amount of new features or the right price. But most of the time, unless I'm more than 90% sure this is the best we're gonna get, i don't touch the movie on DVD. I've made exceptions though.

I bought both the Indiana Jones and Star Wars OT sets knowing full well there's bigger sets on the way.

LOTR, I consider each film as a 6 disc set anyway (2 discs for TEs, 4 for the EEs)

I went back and forth on the Hellboy DC for a while, but eventually caved, and thankfully didn't regret it.

But for the most part, I consider myself a smart shopper, and haven't been screwed very often at all.
post #37 of 44
I don't mind a double dip if it's really 'worth it', but that means different things to different people. It's nice to know up front if it's gonna happen though. Besdies that, we still get some good ones form time to time, but a lot of them are really just kind of annoying, or try to cash in on sequels, useless stuff like that. When dvd was a younger beast they used to be more worthwhile. More recently... not so much. But that's just my take. Didn't get the first Sin City release, but I'll likely get the new one.

I used to sufer from a collector's mentality, but I've been trying to be more responsible lately, so I've got some double dips at home. I have 3 versions of Silence of the Lambs. The original snapper case, the Criterion Version, and MGM's. That one doesn't really bother me so much. I bought the Matrix box after having all 3 of the others already along with the Animatrix and the Marix Revisited. Plenty more too... X-Men 1.5, Daredevil Director's Cut, The Mummy Ultimate Edition, Clerks X (the new Mallrats doesn't seem NEARLY as appealing though)... and I'll give my brain a break for now.

And I look at the LOTR flicks like other folks on here do.
post #38 of 44
I had this conversastion with my fiancee today:

Her: Office Space comes out tomorrow!
Me: We already own Office Space.
Her: This one comes with a mug and a stapler.
Me: Is it really worth it?
Her: How much did you spend on that Buffy set coming out in a couple weeks that we already own four seasons of?

Discussion ended.
post #39 of 44
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Originally Posted by Tom Roberts
It's only subtle, but it does add more character. Liz gets a few more scenes and so does Rasputin and the baddies (the eye subplot is nice and kooky). So don't expect any missing action scenes or anything like that.

All in all, a slightly better film.

Oh and I prefer the Mignola / Del Toro commentary on the regular edition to the alternate Del Toro commentary on the extended edition. It's the only thing that is missing from the EE.
Thanks, I might look into it when I get some disposable income. I would rent it, but no stores have it and I lack netflix. *sigh*
post #40 of 44
Despite the almost blatent shilling which began this thread, it is a worthy topic.

For my own part, I double dip if I feel the quality of the film is worth it but only if I'm ignorant of a forthcoming special edition in the near future. For example, I've held off on buying Sin City because I knew Rodriguez was gonna throw us an insane DVD not far down the road.

Now other times, even though a special edition is highly likely, I'll purchase the more featureless single-dips simply to tide me over, as I did with the Kill Bill films.

Finally, I will sometimes double-dip if I am a mega-fan of the property. I did this a couple weeks ago with The Big Lebowski and I'll be doing it next week with Big Fish and Edward Scissorhands. While I'll admit this is probably the dumbest of the three actions, it is also the rarest.
post #41 of 44
The things about double dips- I don't think people generally mind them if its something warranted that has been done with care. I can't see how anyone in their right minds can complain about a double dip for Se7en or Goodfellas when the original releases were single disc flippers that were questionably better than Laserdisc. Several of those early days of DVD discs had cruddy transfers, weren't animorphic and had no extras. I'm all for new versions of those.

I just hate it when a new edition comes out 4-12 months later with only slightly different extras. It's obvious when something is a labor of love for the filmmakers and something that is designed to milk a few dollars out of consumers.

As silly as it may sound to have to ask for, with the advent of the director's cut editions of films, I wish that all of them would be released WITH the theatrical cut as well. I had absolutely no branching issues with the Alien Quadrilogy discs and like that I have the choice to go from one version or the other. As lovers of film, that is infinately preferable to owning another copy.
post #42 of 44
I very rarely double dip. I really don't have enough money to buy a movie multiple times unless the new version offers some super whammo features that weren't offered on the original release. If I only own one movie from a series and a box set is released with all of them then I am likely to buy it. I do own both versions (theatrical and extended) of all three LotR movies and double dipped my copy of Army of Darkness when the Boomstick Edition was released but that's the extent of it.
post #43 of 44
A good rule of the last few years and the early years of DVD was that any film worth a damn that had a DVD released between 1997 and 2000, was going to get a double dip. And by and large, they have.

I usedto double dip all th time when my collection first began, because I only bought the filmsI truly loved and therefore wantd the defintive copy.Now I buy movies for all kinds of reasons and mycollection has grown too big to get the newest versionof everything. A movie has to earn the double dip nowadays with good, worthy special features.If you don'thave a commentary and a retrospective documentary, I'm not double dipping.
post #44 of 44
Outside of T2 both were 9.99 used so how could I pass it up. American Pyscho and Evil Dead 2 thats it. If there is no extra scenes I wont buy it or if its in a Snapper i wont buy it.
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