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Originally Posted by IN BKB WE TRUST View Post

I see ALOT of MMA fans saying how Jones would put LESNAR away like it's no big deal and while I'll say that I'm a big LESNAR fan and all, I do recognize how hard it is to be out of the Octagon for a certain length of time and making a comeback is almost next to impossible, BUT, My heart says LESNAR would wreck the fuck out of Bones Jones and do it pretty fucking quick meaning, he'd take him to the ground and it would basically be all over.. I don't care how good Jones is, giving up that much weight in comparison to LESNAR while he's on top of you pounding the fuck out of you is all but guaranteed a disaster for Jones and a win for LESNAR.. Oh well.. Guess we'll never find out and if he's suspended for 2 years like I've read, then forget it.. LESNAR will be what?? 42 by then??? He'll most likely be long retired and made to lose to Roman fucking Reigns at whatever roman numeral WrestleMania we're up to now...

Brock looked so much better in his last outing, against Mark Hunt, than in his previous one, and at the time most of us thought of it as a triumph in his battle against the diverticulitis that had apparently derailed him for years. And it wasn't just that he looked so much healthier physically, he also seemed much more in the game mentally, given he was up against one of the hardest hitters in the history of the sport and in the past his achilles heel had been that he would mentally shut down when he got punched in the face. Even as a big Hunto fan I was stoked to see Brock not be the broken fighter we'd feared he might be. Then of course he pops, and none of us were really surprised, and he flushed all that good will down the bog.

But to your point, it's worth noting that Cain Velasquez was 245 when he beat Brock for the title. The current HW champ, Stipe Miocic weighs in around the same. Other top HWs (Junior Dos Santos, Alistair Overeem, Fabricio Werdum) also come in around that same 240-248 range. The consensus in the last half decade has been that 265+ is actually too big to be successful against the elite of the division - that the extra mass can end up as a liability in terms of agility and gas tank. And Jones was apparently up around 240 when he was suspended the last time.

Not that any of this is likely to matter until at least mid-2019 unfortunately.
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Anyone know of a Stream to watch this instead of foolishly paying $100.00 for this shit???

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Fight update: The two fighters in the main event were scheduled to make their ring entrances a few minutes from now. Sport Illustrated is reporting, however, that the main event may be delayed while Showtime works out some issues that people who ordered the Pay-Per-View are having. A new start time hasn't been announced to the best of my knowledge, but it could be a long night.

Midnight update: The issue looks to have been resolved. National anthem and ring entrances happening, just a half hour late.

Round one was the usual sizing-each-other-up round. McGregor landed a couple of punches, and the usually evasive Mayweather looked "visibly surprised." Sports Illustrated's staff think McGregor won this round. (I'm reading their live stream.)

Round two was more even, with McGregor "bodying Mayweather and landing several strong jabs," and Mayweather "landing his share of punches on McGregor as well."

Round three saw the referee warn McGregor about a punch to the back of Mayweather's head. McGregor has landed several jabs to Mayweather's head, and Mayweather looks to be in danger of losing on points if he doesn't wake up.

Round four saw both fighters finally show up, with McGregor landing a solid left hook and Mayweather forcing McGregor to back-peddle with a few combinations. In the words of the SI staff, "the crowd is responding after any shots landed by either side. Four rounds in, there's no question this fight has already delivered."

At the end of round five, McGregor looks winded. He spent the round "treading water" while Mayweather went on the offensive. A lot of analysts predicted that this fight would not go well for McGregor is it went beyond four rounds.

In round six, Mayweather evened the score, winning a third consecutive round against a visibly tired McGregor. A UFC fight would have ended after the fifth round. SI: "McGregor is going to need to make something happen quickly for him to win this fight. Mayweather is going to pick him apart if this trend continues."

Round seven was all Mayweather, who evaded McGregor's offense and landed several solid counterpunches.

Round eight saw McGregor reignite. He was cautioned a second time for a punch to the back of Mayweather's head. Mayweather then walked straight into an uppercut from McGregor while trying to deliver a combination.

Round nine was completely one-sided, with Mayweather stalking an exhausted McGregor. In round ten, the fight was stopped and ruled a TKO, as McGregor could barely stand. This is the first loss via TKO of McGregor's fighting career.
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Edited by Reasor - 8/26/17 at 9:55pm
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Conor is tired.  

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I wonder if they'll be rioting in Dublin tonight.
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Nah it was a good fight.  I'm happy with it.  

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So they danced for 10 rounds and McGregor got tired.

Literally how everyone predicted it would end. I'm just fucking glad we're done with it.
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I mean, it was a fun fight though.  Underselling it a bit.  

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Yeah it was pretty respectable, solid first professional boxing match against one of the best ever.

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Followed this through local newspaper's feed. Their smug prick of a boxing commentator made me root for McGregor. Glad he fought a good fight, making said commentator noticeably pissed off.
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I would have NEVER guessed Conor would go ten rounds and then win like the first three against the greatest defensive boxer of all time.  I know it's lame to say this kind of thing after he lost, but if he wanted to box now he'd have a career.  

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I'm with Freeman, it turned out to be a pretty fun fight in the end.

Best result for all concerned really - if Conor had gone down inside 18 minutes it would've been a black eye for MMA and if he survived the full 36 it would've been embarrassing for boxing.

In 24 MMA contests since early 2008 Conor has only gone past 10 minutes twice, and past 15 minutes once. I was surprised his gas tank lasted as long as it did tonight.
post #4313 of 4341
Win or lose, Conor's post-fight take is always a fascinating blend of the technical and mental. Dude should give lessons in this stuff.

http://mmajunkie.com/2017/08/conor-mcgregor-free-agent-boxing-mma-floyd-mayweather-loss
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Originally Posted by Bucho View Post

I'm with Freeman, it turned out to be a pretty fun fight in the end.

Best result for all concerned really - if Conor had gone down inside 18 minutes it would've been a black eye for MMA and if he survived the full 36 it would've been embarrassing for boxing.

In 24 MMA contests since early 2008 Conor has only gone past 10 minutes twice, and past 15 minutes once. I was surprised his gas tank lasted as long as it did tonight.
How is it still not embarrassing for Floyd. He's considered one of the greatest boxers ever and it took 10 rounds to be an amateur who only recently started training for boxing.
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You're SEVERELY playing down just how good of an athlete Conor really is in my mind.  In MMA, his control of distance, his insane counter punching, his next level amazing mental game.  He can dodge your punch by tilting his head back an inch, leaving himself plenty of time and room to DESTROY guys with the counter, and he does it so consistently.  Mentally you can see in his face when he fights, almost a zen concentration, unshakable.  Totally focused.  He's not just fun and funny, he's incredible.  I honestly don't think Floyd expected as much as he got.

 

That being said his weakness has always been the gas tank, and this wasn't some five round MMA brawl.  Super fun to see Conor and Floyd on good terms, just chilling.

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I don't care how good an athlete Connor is MMA is not boxing. Floyd may have not KO'd someone in a while but he's fighting a novice.

The only reason this fight happened is because Connor is white. Maybe Floyd was toying with him in order to get a 2nd fight/payday. There would be 100 million reasons to make this "fight" look good
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Uhhhh ok then.  You're the expert I guess on...  Boxing and race?

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Originally Posted by IN BKB WE TRUST View Post
 

Anyone know of a Stream to watch this instead of foolishly paying $100.00 for this shit???

 

No but you can watch this instead:

 

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I hope Stallone got a cut of this fight since they ripped off his idea.

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The only reason this fight existed was because of race.

You want to say I discrediting Connor but you are doing worse to Floyd. You are saying a world class boxer, possibly the best technical fighter ever(by the experts) should have had a competitive fight with an amateur boxer. Please.

Let's see Connor go in the ring with a younger fighter. Someone who regularly KO's his opponent. I'll bet anything it doesn't last anywhere near 10. He'll be lucky to make it to the 2nd round.
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Nah.

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Mayweather waited McGregor out like he does every opponent. That 10th round was exactly the way this fight was going to end. People can say "oh but McGregor went 10 rounds" to try to legitimize what happened but the fact of the matter is Mayweather systematically wore him down.

When is McGregor's next fight against an opponent his age? If that ever happens.
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Soon and my money is on Diaz.
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post

The only reason this fight existed was because of race.

You want to say I discrediting Connor but you are doing worse to Floyd. You are saying a world class boxer, possibly the best technical fighter ever(by the experts) should have had a competitive fight with an amateur boxer. Please.

Let's see Connor go in the ring with a younger fighter. Someone who regularly KO's his opponent. I'll bet anything it doesn't last anywhere near 10. He'll be lucky to make it to the 2nd round.


​This PPV went on entirely too long.. Thank God I was smart enough not to pay $100.00 for this and saw it online instead.. Seriously, this really was a boring PPV.. Let's see how Mayweather does in a rematch contested under MMA Rules.. It really is just a matter of tie before the WWE and UFC share a PPV together given how pro wrestling's popularity has declined over the years and Social Media and the wrestling fans today having to be part of the show doesn't help either...

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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post

The only reason this fight existed was because of race.

I doubt anyone involved thought about any other color than dollar green.
post #4326 of 4341
DJ's slam to armbar on Borg may be the greatest sub set-up in the history of MMA. Dude puts the art in Mixed Martial Arts.
post #4327 of 4341
The dude does things in real life - in championship fights when EVERYTHING is on the line no less - that should only be possible in movies or video games or WWE.

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Bisping vs GSP
Cody vs TJ
Joanna vs Thug Rose
Wonderboy vs Gamebred

YES PLEASE.

Crazy that with the GOAT back in action he's in only the 4th most intriguing match-up.
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First ...



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GSP wins a title on a night where many of us literally turned back our clocks.

 

I dunno if Dillashaw even noticed it, but imagine hitting that head kick right after a whole crowd was chanting "fuck you" at you.

 

And I don't want to say I saw it coming, because I absolutely didn't, but I was thinking during the introductions that Joanna seemed way more concerned with mugging for the camera than she was with Namajunas.

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One of the striking things about Bisping/GSP was Georges looked like comfortably the bigger guy in there. Slightly shorter maybe, but substantially thicker everywhere.

Pretty sure TJ said in the post-fight presser he could hear the chants. Dude obviously did a top notch job of staying chill in the line of fire though and saving up his emotional release for after the fight was called.

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"Just be a good person ... let's just give each other hugs and be nice ..."
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GSP was beast. Bisping taking a nap was amazing.
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This card should be a hoot. Ngannou bout to topple a mad titan

Edited by ShaunH - 11/30/17 at 11:46am
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This card should be a hoot. Ngannou bout to topple a mad titan

HA! It's like if Tito and Reem had a baby.
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This Yancy/Cowboy fight is NUTS!!

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Last night's card was insane.

 

 

 

 

 

Overeem got decimated. Hardest punch in the world ... yep. Straight out of Mortal Kombat shit from Ngannou.

 

 

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 Georges St-Pierre is no longer the middleweight champion of the UFC, sources say. Whittaker-Rockhold is for the real belt at 221.

 

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/938951714199298053

 

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 St-Pierre decided to vacate the title after being diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. He informed the UFC of his decision a couple of days ago. That’s why they moved to book Whittaker-Rockhold, which we reported earlier.

 

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/938952102939910144

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No real suprise. Going to cruise right onto the next huge payday after the old anus heals up.

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Kind of a shame really. If there was another elite MW Georges could face without being dwarfed it'd probably be Whitaker, who's spent more of his career as a WW than a MW anyway.
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