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In addition to Cassidy we have lost Buzz Belmondo, who portrayed "Buzz" on the 80's syndicated sitcom Out of this World:

 

http://deadline.com/2017/11/buzz-belmondo-dies-out-of-this-world-actor-70-1202213560/

 

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Manson's a weird one to parse the reaction to. Because on one hand, absolutely, glad he's dead, burn in hell. On the other, it feels like he left such a cultural mark on America's psyche - he was in many ways the ur-bogeyman of the post-war era - that you can't dismiss him out of hand as "oh, he didn't matter." And he inspired all this great art - art that I would gladly trade if it meant the victims were still alive. And yet I'm actually glad that he lived long enough to see his legacy revealed not as this mystical monster who could hypnotize young girls with his charm, but a short, weasly con artist and starfucker who pulled his techniques from How To Win Friends and Influence People. He's reviled, but he's seen as utterly human and a fraud, and I think that's about as fitting a punishment as one could get. 

 

Anyway, I've posted this before, but this is a great read: 
 

http://www.truecrimediary.com/index.cfm?page=cases&id=187

 

And, of course, YOU MUST REMEMBER THIS's podcast is definitive: 

 

http://www.youmustrememberthispodcast.com/episodes/youmustrememberthispodcastblog/2015/5/26/charles-mansons-hollywood-part-1-what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-the-manson-murders

 

It is gross, but I feel that Manson does fascinate for a reason.  It's really hard to imagine what a hothouse he walked out of jail into.  Almost like it was custom made just for him to exploit.  Most cults take years to develop and a great deal of isolation. Manson only got out of jail in March of '67.  In only  two years he had cultivated relationships all over town: he was tied up in drug deals, theft, he was making failed music deals with pretty lofty people AND he had grown a 'family' of a dozen loyal followers into an apocalypse cult who would kill for him,  taken over a ranch set and plotted to move everyone out into the desert for the end times at the point of murdering a bunch of people to get petty revenge/ steal money/ cover up other crimes/ spark a race war.

 

That timeline is completely nuts. It speaks of a kind hysterical atmosphere easily on par with the Salem witch trials and the siege of Munster to me. And it's about what is probably the defining period of our age (post WW2 anyway).  It's both common currency and really damn hard to imagine all those alienated midwestern girls getting off the bus into god-knows-what situation as a commonplace thing.

 

Anyway, it has been oft discussed.  That podcast series there is essential.  If you try it out and find the first episode very 'cultural studies class' it's worth it to persist.  After that it becomes one of the best pieces of true-crime storytelling in the medium.

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My father was a Federal Parole Officer, and at some point met Charles Manson.

He said he  'saw fire behind his eyes'.

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His Seinfeld appearance was wonderful. RIP.
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He was Captain Sheridan's Dad on Babylon 5. RIP sir.

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RIP angry farmer guy in CHINATOWN. 

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Julio Oscar Mechoso, a great Hollywood character actor in a lot of stuff. Many remember him as Lester Kosko, the tech guy loaned out to Vice on a number of occasions through Miami Vice's run. He helped get tape on everyone from ex-pat Chinese generals to mafia dons. A job well done. RIP Julio.
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Good actor. Liked him in last year's TRANSPECOS.

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He helped get tape on everyone from ex-pat Chinese generals to mafia dons. A job well done. RIP Julio.

 

That was in Golden Triangle, the only episode(s) Michael Mann had a direct hand in conceiving the story.

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SHAZAM!

 

RIP, Good Sir.

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1. I had no idea Nabors had been still alive.

2. Glad he was able to marry his lifetime love before passing.

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I had to ask my dad back in the day if this was accurate. 

 

He informed me it was. 

 

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Nothing in here about August Ames, eh?

 

From what I understand, the 23-year-old adult film actress publicly refused to work with a male partner who had previously worked in gay porn, citing health concerns. It ignited a firestorm on twitter of people calling her homophobic, etc.  

 

She was found dead on Tuesday from apparent suicide.

 

Not for nothing, it's been rumored she's had a prolific drug problem and a steadily deteriorating mental condition. It's also been suggested she might've lost work over this social media flare-up too, but I don't have a source on that one.

 

Sad. The porn industry has to be one of the most psychologically hazardous career paths out there.

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Yeah, she probably needed help.

 

Twitter is the opposite of that.

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Damn. If suicide over internet backlash is what it’s coming to then that is super sad.

Fucking 23.
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Toxic internet culture is a thing.

 

Anyone pretending that pornography isn't a toxic career choice is rationalizing way too hard.

 

Like everything, its almost certainly a combination of a lot of different things.

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Hey remember when Dr Kate Harford talked about Happy Hookers laughing all the way to the bank? Guess he meant.....the blood bank!

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Ed Lee, San Francisco's first Asian American mayor, suddenly and unexpectedly at 65: 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/us/ed-lee-dead.html

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Speaking of mayors, Vera Katz, Mayor of Portland when I was growing up (1993 - 2005, from elementary school till after college). She wasn't as colorful as the other Mayor when I was a kid, her predecessor Bud Clark, who owned a bar before being elected and has a big ol' beard, but reading Katz's bio online just now, she really led an extraordinary life. Born in Germany to Jewish Mensheviks who'd fled Russia, in 1933 as Hitler was coming to power, her family then fled to France, then crossed the Pyrenees on foot to Spain after Hitler invaded France, then escaped to the U.S. Then grew up to become a 3-term mayor of a major American city. Quite a life.

 

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/12/vera_katz_former_portland_mayo.html

post #12925 of 12930

Pat DiNizio, lead singer of the Smithereens, passed away yesterday at age 62.  No cause was given.


Edited by Richard Dickson - Yesterday at 5:53 pm
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Paul DiNizio, lead singer of the Smithereens, passed away yesterday at age 62.  No cause was given.

*Pat.

Damn. One of my all time favourite bands.
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I really, really hate the way social media always seems two seconds away from turning into a lynch mob.

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Originally Posted by Anakin's Dad View Post

I really, really hate the way social media always seems two seconds away from turning into a lynch mob.

It is up to two seconds?

Sounds like the rush to judgment is slowing down a bit.
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