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post #80701 of 96355

Re: Scorsese and Seagal.

 

I could never even think about which is the better film, GOODFELLAS or CASINO.  I love them both so very, very much.  The answer would probably depend more on me and my viewing mood on the day.  If I want a dark, edgy, close-up and personal NYC kind of thing: GOODFELLAS.  If I want flashy, widescreeny, show-stopping, turn-it-up-to-11 entertainment, CASINO.  I just recently had a ScorseseFest of my own, watching almost every conventional narrative film the man ever made in the order they were released (not SHINE A LIGHT nor the documentaries) and had a great time doing it.

 

Who's That Knocking At My Door? (1968) ***1/2

Boxcar Bertha ***

Mean Streets ****

Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore ***1/2

Taxi Driver ****

New York, New York ***

Raging Bull ****

The King Of Comedy ***1/2

After Hours ****

The Color of Money ****

The Last Temptation of Christ ****

New York Stories: Life Lessons  ****

Goodfellas ****

Cape Fear ***1/2

The Age of Innocence ***

Casino ****

Kundun ****

Bringing Out the Dead ***

Gangs of New York ***

The Aviator ***

The Departed ***1/2

Shutter Island ***1/2

Hugo ****

 

And then we have Steven Seagal.  The Robed Warrior.  The Whispeing Behometh.  Ah, his work...   Not only does the man often elect not to show up for his own films (close up of Seagal's shoes in ATTACK FORCE are plentiful) apparently he often also refuses to even perform his own dubbing.  (Imagine that's your job, being Seagal's voice double. This guy would be an interesting interview.) There is next to no reason he should still be making these movies.  But wow... thank God he does, right?  They can be so entertaining beyond the typical scope of your "average," "normal," or even "professionally made" films.  And this is not sideways, snarky criticism.  I legitimately like a lot of his DTV flicks for the sheer audacity of many of the choices made in them.  What I said a couple of days ago regarding Takashi Miike movies can also apply to Seagal's recent cinema: You just never know what you're going to get.  I loved that for a while you were always guaranteed one special guest of some high repute in Seagal movies.  That is, one performer you've seen before.  Dennis Hopper in TICKER, playing the silliest mad bomber I've ever seen. William Atherton in INTO THE SUN, calling Seagal "Big Poppa."  Monica Lo in BELLY OF THE BEAST.  Matt Schulze in OUT OF REACH.  I love the often-befuddling choices the casting agents and performance coaches make for supporting characters like "Bulldog" in MERCENARY FOR JUSTICE  -- who seemed like he'd have to fight Seagal until he decides to befriend him, like any good bulldog probably would --  and the Tech Geek in BLACK DAWN -- who is such a wheezing, dark-room kind of kid you'd think Seagal would throw him through a window just so that the kid could get a little sun.

 

When Seagal's movies are bad, they are really bad.  ATTACK FORCE is probably the one I like the least, too.  Or maybe the recent BORN TO RAISE HELL, during which my friends and I stopped following the film and trailed off into conversations...  But I do own quite a few of his career second-half DTV pictures on DVD because when they're fun, they're really fun.  Partially in a "so bad they're good" way but also partially in a "it's so crazy this guy still makes movies, it's like my dad being an action star" way.  Conventional film business wisdom says an over-50, over 250 lb male lead should not be allowed to keep this up, making one movie after another and a TV series or two.  But Seagal doesn't care.  He's following his own path.  I really had fun with LAWMAN, that show out of Jefferson Parish, Louisiana.  The best parts for me were always seeing people legitimately lighting up when Seagal enters a room.  People love the guy.  Even the ones he's handcuffing.  And of his two music albums, the guy's not bad there either.  I really liked his second one, "Mojo Priest."  There are at least a half dozen good songs on there.

 

This is probably ground the thread has already covered a thousand times, before.  Sorry about going on and on for so long.  It's not like Scorsese and Seagal need me to promote them.  :)


Edited by Engineer - 2/14/12 at 3:57pm
post #80702 of 96355

No need to apologise for Seagal talk, especially when it shows a genuine love for some of his later works. And his music! I've seen TICKER exactly once, and it was fun watching that with an Irish guy and enjoying Hopper's spot-on Irish accent.

 

On the whole I think your Scorsese ratings fall in line with mine, can't see anything I violently disagree with. Has he announced his next project yet? I can't recall.

 

 

 

 

post #80703 of 96355

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53564

 

Spoiler-filled video detailing the very beginning of Taken 2. Without spoiling anything, it apparently takes place immediately after the first film, and involves the victims of people Mills' killed in the first film.

 

It also sounds like there's THREE TIMES the TAKING.

post #80704 of 96355

I think my favorite moment of TICKER is when Seagal and Sizemore walk into a bar where the musical performer is an old bluesman also played by Seagal.  I like to think that if we'd followed that character home, he'd also be a "more zen" ass-kicking bluesman of some type with a Tom Sizemore-looking roadie.  (Yes!  A full-on Seagal action-blues-musical!  Genius!!)  

post #80705 of 96355

Gabe T, I am ready to be...TAKEN, on further adventures of...Bryan Mills!  Now that He and his ex get...Taken, an enormous effort is...underTaken, by the daughter that was once...Taken!  If Bryan returns to the CIA after escaping, maybe he will get a new rank...General Mills!

post #80706 of 96355
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(Yes!  A full-on Seagal action-blues-musical!  Genius!!)  


This needs to happen! Immediately!

post #80707 of 96355
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When Seagal's movies are bad, they are really bad.  ATTACK FORCE is probably the one I like the least, too.  Or maybe the recent BORN TO RAISE HELL, during which my friends and I stopped following the film and trailed off into conversations...  But I do own quite a few of his career second-half DTV pictures on DVD because when they're fun, they're really fun.  Partially in a "so bad they're good" way but also partially in a "it's so crazy this guy still makes movies, it's like my dad being an action star" way.  Conventional film business wisdom says an over-50, over 250 lb male lead should not be allowed to keep this up, making one movie after another and a TV series or two.  But Seagal doesn't care.  He's following his own path.  I really had fun with LAWMAN, that show out of Jefferson Parish, Louisiana.  The best parts for me were always seeing people legitimately lighting up when Seagal enters a room.  People love the guy.  Even the ones he's handcuffing.  And of his two music albums, the guy's not bad there either.  I really liked his second one, "Mojo Priest."  There are at least a half dozen good songs on there.

 

This is probably ground the thread has already covered a thousand times, before.  Sorry about going on and on for so long.  It's not like Scorsese and Seagal need me to promote them.  :)


Don't forget The Sensei's recent career as an MMA Superstar trainer. He invented the legendary "Front Kick".
 

I thought A Dangerous Man was strangely enjoyable. It's got his old co-star Bryan Mann and there's quite a bit of action in it as well. (Poorly shot action truth be told. But not bad by Seagal DTV standards.)

 

"I know what to do. I know what to do."

 

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The full-on Seagal action-blues-musical:  Seagal is a New Orleans street performer who gave up a life of stardom in order to lead a more zen life of busking for quarters.  Sizemore, in his blonde wig from STRANGE DAYS and a breathtaking collection of sleeveless 80's concert t-shirts, sees Seagal and professes his love for Seagal's past music.  ("Nobody ever sang the word punani with such angelic wonder, man.")  Sizemore offers to walk the highways of America's backwater towns as his roadie if Sensai Seagal promises to teach him all about music, love and life.  Many scenes could be lifted directly from TICKER, with guitar mastery taking the place of bomb disposal.  For instance, there could be a scene where Seagal tries to teach Sizemore how to play a guitar riff over the phone while Sizemore angrily screams at him "I DON'T KNOW WHAT TA" DO!! TELL ME WHAT TA' DOOO!!"  Every third or fourth scene is either a blues music scene or a fight scene, or both.  And here's the kicker...  The ending is a take on the finish of Walter Hill's CROSSROADS with the Devil coming to collect Seagal's soul... with Tommy Wiseau as Satan.  And when the climactic music battle is judged too close to call, Seagal beats Satan up.  Satan then thanks him, saying "I need time... Time to change."

 


Edited by Engineer - 2/14/12 at 4:01pm
post #80709 of 96355

Video Store Adventures: a 90's thriller I've head good things about called MUTE WITNESS.

 

post #80710 of 96355
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53564

 

Spoiler-filled video detailing the very beginning of Taken 2. Without spoiling anything, it apparently takes place immediately after the first film, and involves the victims of people Mills' killed in the first film.

 

It also sounds like there's THREE TIMES the TAKING.



Just heard Latino Reviews SPOILER filled description of the TAKEN 2 plot. Nice to see Maggie Grace doing something to help Nesson this time.

 

But damm! No Xander Berkely?

 

post #80711 of 96355

Felix: Yes... A DANGEROUS MAN.  The one where Seagal "fucks them up ugly."  :)  

 

Sometimes his flicks sort of all run together for me in my memory and I have trouble remembering which were which.  A while ago I called ATTACK FORCE a really bad one, but the one I was thinking of was his vampire-kill-squad one, AGAINST THE DARK.

 

Lately I find it more fun to just refer to them by specific moments.  Like: DRIVEN TO KILL (aka RUSLAN) is "the one with the Seagal close-up so epic it should be on currency and stop signs."  Or: KILL SWITCH is "the one where Seagal kicks a guy through a window 13 times at once."

 

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Just heard Latino Reviews SPOILER filled description of the TAKEN 2 plot. Nice to see Maggie Grace doing something to help Nesson this time.

 

But damm! No Xander Berkely?

 


I guess it's still not the time for dick-measuring.

post #80713 of 96355

Anyone pick up the Blu of THE PERFECT WEAPON?

post #80714 of 96355
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Felix: Yes... A DANGEROUS MAN.  The one where Seagal "fucks them up ugly."  :)  

 

Sometimes his flicks sort of all run together for me in my memory and I have trouble remembering which were which.  A while ago I called ATTACK FORCE a really bad one, but the one I was thinking of was his vampire-kill-squad one, AGAINST THE DARK.

 

Lately I find it more fun to just refer to them by specific moments.  Like: DRIVEN TO KILL (aka RUSLAN) is "the one with the Seagal close-up so epic it should be on currency and stop signs."  Or: KILL SWITCH is "the one where Seagal kicks a guy through a window 13 times at once."

 


ATTACK FORCE is definitely his worst one. Haven't seen AGAINST THE DARK though. I heard it has MORTAL KOMBAT's Johnny Cage in it.
 

RUSLAN wasn't that bad. It's not a good film (I doubt any of Seagal's DTV are), but its tolerable enough.

 

I was impressed by INTO THE SUN though. The production values here are on par with a decent Theatre released motion picture.

 

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Fat Elvis, A...Blu The Perfect Weapon?  Is this a documentary, about one of our members in...B Action Movie Thread, in one of the...Sadder moments of his life?  Instead, is it a...Blu Ray disk of the film featuring a lead actor...Jeff, of whom no...Man should...Speak of!

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RUSLAN wasn't that bad. It's not a good film (I doubt any of Seagal's DTV are), but its tolerable enough.

 

I was impressed by INTO THE SUN though. The production values here are on par with a decent Theatre released motion picture.

 



Agreed.  I didn't mean to say I didn't like them, necessarily.  Just that they're starting to blend together for me.  RUSLAN was very entertaining.  And INTO THE SUN ranks up there near the top with BELLY OF THE BEAST which I think is legit, silly fun.  Speaking of which, here it is.  The whole movie.  :)

 

 

Regarding INTO THE SUN: As a Kitamura fan, it was great for me to see Takao Osawa as a Seagal villain.  But, how the hell do you think Chiaki Kuriyama found her way into the film for her brief sequence?  She's just standing there, applauding.  Think Seagal was just a KILL BILL fan and wanted to meet her?  

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But damm! No Xander Berkely?

 



Xander fan, too?  Nice!  How'd you like THE BOOTH AT THE END on hulu?  I called it one of my year's Top Ten film experiences.

post #80718 of 96355

I love Attack Force, but only because it's one of the most incompetent attempts at making a film ever. They started off with an alien plot, then the producers changed a whole lot of it around to be about generic drug dealers, but some of the stuff is still there (shifty eyes, the blades). I want to think that Seagal's not being involved in any of the post work on that film is because it was not the film it should have been, and he was boycotting it. I still remember the original title, "Harvester". Same thing with Shadow Man. That was originally "Shadows Of The Past" and was going to be a period movie set in WWII with Seagal as a doctor. I know. That just sounds crazy, but it would have been interesting.

post #80719 of 96355

And SUBMERGED was supposed to be "Seagal versus a mutant Leviathan-style sea monster" until they chucked all the sci-fi and turned it into "Seagal in a sub with Vinnie Jones versus mind-conrtol drug makers."  And somehow SUBMERGED still turned out well, in that latter "so bad it's good" category. 

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Regarding INTO THE SUN: As a Kitamura fan, it was great for me to see Takao Osawa as a Seagal villain.  But, how the hell do you think Chiaki Kuriyama found her way into the film for her brief sequence?  She's just standing there, applauding.  Think Seagal was just a KILL BILL fan and wanted to meet her?  


Or a big Battle Royale fan.  Remember when she stabbed that kid in the dick!?  Fuck!

post #80721 of 96355

You know I haven't seen BATTLE ROYALE in years. Need to revisit that. I'd be real curious to see if it holds up. I remember when my local video store got a copy, I was trying to show it to everybody. It blew away a lot of friends.

post #80722 of 96355

I will not tolerate this apologetic spirit among my thread brethren about Killer Elite. It deep-throats a hot dog and you are all blind to it.

 

I love Casino but Goodfellas will always win as it's an all-time favorite. My top five Scorsese:

 

1. Goodfellas

2. Taxi Driver

3. The Departed

4. After Hours

5. The Last Temptation of Christ

 

Engineer, what is your favorite Seagal? Out for Justice (original title: The Price of Our Blood!) and Marked for Death are my top two with Above the Law in third.

 

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The Salton Sea is kind of a forgotten gem. A better movie about meth than Spun, but also a fairly engaging neo-noir film. The best part about it is how different it feels from other films that are similar on paper. D.J. Caruso knocks it out of the part. Admittedly, I have not seen any of his other films, but his newest film Goat Island sees him reuniting with Val.


Goat Island sounds like he's stumping and it's a dumb title to boot. Probably on a one-way ride to the Redbox.

 

Yeah, The Salton Sea beats the shit out of Spun, which has a great supporting turn from Mickey Rourke and a grimy Jason Schwartzman, but in spite of an awesome 70's-ish opening credits and the fact that it could very well take place in the Breaking Bad universe, it has nothing on POO BAYUH and his brain eating.
 

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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53564

 

Spoiler-filled video detailing the very beginning of Taken 2. Without spoiling anything, it apparently takes place immediately after the first film, and involves the victims of people Mills' killed in the first film.

 

It also sounds like there's THREE TIMES the TAKING.


"Three times the taking!" will be reserved for Taken 3 or 3ken or whatever the third one will be called, where Xander Berkeley is revealed to be the mastermind of everything.
 

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Anyone pick up the Blu of THE PERFECT WEAPON?


Haven't yet but I REALLY want to. REALLY.

post #80723 of 96355
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Engineer, what is your favorite Seagal? Out for Justice (original title: The Price of Our Blood!) and Marked for Death are my top two with Above the Law in third.

 

For his big budget/studio backed films I'd also have to go with either Above the Law or Out for Justice.   

Direct-to-video:  Yeah... Belly of the Beast or Into the Sun.

Terrible admission on my part: I still haven't seen Machete.   But not because I haven't wanted to see it.  I'm upgrading to blu-ray soon (late to the party)

and want Machete to be my first blu viewing.  You know, start things off right.  :)


 

 

post #80724 of 96355

Nothing but love for Salton Sea. If I ever get to hold a harpoon spear gun, I'll make sure to alarm people with the quote "I don't mean to impose, but I am the ocean."

 

Goat Island sounds a bit like that upcoming Wes Anderson film. Let's hope it takes a turn towards horror once PAN THE GOAT GOD appears to terrorize everyone.

 

If any of you are in NYC in the near future, it looks like John Sayles is going to be showcasing a few films at Anthology Film Archives. 

http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/series/38682

The Howling! Piranha! Alligator! Hombre! Friggin' Battle Beyond the Stars! Even a late 80s Burt Reynolds film, Breaking In.

post #80725 of 96355
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For his big budget/studio backed films I'd also have to go with either Above the Law or Out for Justice.   

Direct-to-video:  Yeah... Belly of the Beast or Into the Sun.

Terrible admission on my part: I still haven't seen Machete.   But not because I haven't wanted to see it.  I'm upgrading to blu-ray soon (late to the party)

and want Machete to be my first blu viewing.  You know, start things off right.  :)


 

http://www.chud.com/community/t/86300/the-b-action-movie-thread/80700#post_3276727

 

 

 

Oh you won't be disappointed at all with Machete. It was definitely something I NEEDED to see opening day, and myself and esteemed wife to be saw did just that. This film PLAYED. The entire theater was laughing and going along with the action. I'd start rambling about certain bits I loved, but that would spoil too much.

 

 

 

 

We all know The Sensei wanted Chiyaki Kuriyama to wear her schoolgirl outfit and have some "private lessons" with him.

 

 

 

So when I went to check the mailbox, what did I find awaiting me? SUPERGIRL. The Anchor Bay limited edition 2 disc dvd set that I found for 14 bucks on Amazon via a 3rd party seller. It had been several years since I saw the "Director's Cut" dvd, and before that I'd seen it on tv as a kid. One thing, beside Helen Slater really filling the Supergirl costume out well, was the silly Maximum Overdrive-esque scene of a possessed construction tractor thing wreaking havoc in the town.

 

More things I'd forgotten/didn't realize. HART BOCHNER is the hunky male lead. Yes, ELLIS is the lead actor, but in a hilarious twist on the "damsel in distress" archetype, he is the one that gets to be chased by the construction tractor, and is for all intents and purposes THE GIRL of the film. He even talks like I'd imagine MOOSE from the ARCHIE comics would talk in real life. He's that much of an idiot. Greg David and I had an interesting conversation on facebook about this.

 

There's also MATT FREWER as a sleazy trucker named Eddie (or in Van Damme speak EDDEH!!!!) who tries to get friendly with Supergirl when she first arrives on Earth. She promptly uses her "Super breath" to blow him into a wooden wall. Yes. She blows him....away.

 

 

So yeah, this movie is as silly as can be. One good thing, the 3rd party seller I bought it from donates all money to an AIDS Action Committee in Massachusetts, so I'm happy to help out in that area.
 

 

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Haven't ordered Perfect Weapon yet because its 20.99 on amazon (waiting for it to drop).

 

Also don't forget that Battle Royal comes out on March 20th.

 

I don't get all this anti Killer Elite talk. I'm gonna revisit it this weekend and see how I like it for the 2nd time. I remember it wasn't great, but come on guys neither was Expendables. Also we like stuff like Desert Heat, Belly of the Beast, The Killing Machine, and Machete just to name a few, so Killer Elite is not that bad.

 

Watched The Mechanic last night, still pretty decent.

 

 

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The Mechanic is the better of the Statham 2011 films, but yeah, Killer Elite is nowhere near the terribleness that it was trumped as. Sorry, Hunter.

 

 

With my birthday this friday (turning the big 28! I'm on the wrong side of 30, but fuck if I'm going to be acting "grown up") I may try to go see The Grey, or Ghost Rider: Spirit Of Vengeance. I'll be heading to Best Buy to get some of the movies they have on sale this week, but I want to see if they have The Perfect Weapon there, so I can buy it and file away my vhs I bought that I couldn't finish, because the entire end sequence was messed up.

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My favorite underrated Hart Bochner is his slimy Gere-ish married cop slipping it to Lea Thompson in THE WILD LIFE. He breaks her heart, the creep!

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Video Store Adventures: a 90's thriller I've head good things about called MUTE WITNESS.

This is a goodie, a real decent giallo-type thriller. I hear the director went a little nuts trying to remake it for America with Jennifer Lopez, and hasn't been heard from since. I could look it up but a brief bout with some spirits means I will not be doing any researching tonight.
 

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The Mechanic is the better of the Statham 2011 films, but yeah, Killer Elite is nowhere near the terribleness that it was trumped as. Sorry, Hunter.

 

With my birthday this friday (turning the big 28! I'm on the wrong side of 30, but fuck if I'm going to be acting "grown up") I may try to go see The Grey, or Ghost Rider: Spirit Of Vengeance. I'll be heading to Best Buy to get some of the movies they have on sale this week, but I want to see if they have The Perfect Weapon there, so I can buy it and file away my vhs I bought that I couldn't finish, because the entire end sequence was messed up.

Happy early birthday, Rene.


Ranking the Stathams, post-stardom actioners...

Crank/Crank 2

The Transporter

Safe

The Transporter 2

The Bank Job

The Mechanic

Blitz

Killer Elite

The Expendables
The Transporter 3

Death Race

 

A couple I haven't seen yet, but, by and large, Statham always delivers for me.

Also talked to Neveldine and Taylor earlier this week, they again confirmed Crank 3D was going to happen, but it's not written yet.

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Thanks for the early birthday shout out, Gabe! I still haven't seen The bank Job or Blitz, and as far as I can tell, those the only films of his I haven't seen (well, and Gnomeo And Juliet as well). Lenape I'll blind buy The Bank Job. I've seen the Blu-ray for cheap.
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I loved MUTE WITNESS.

 

Plot: A mute F/X make up artist is in Moscow working on a low budget horror movie. One night working late, she accidently gets locked in the studio. Hearing voices, and hoping to find help, she instead stumbles on a small crew making a snuff film. Fleeing and making her escape, in the best Hitchcockian tradition, she is soon caught up in a web of danger and sinister forces beyond her control - in this case corrupt cops, cold-blooded killers and Russian mobsters. 

 

Verdict: An effective, exciting thriller/giallo that would make DePalma giddy with delight, I was on the edge of my seat, caught up in the suspense and laughing at the surprising  black screwball humor. An underrated gem. Well worth a rent from Netflix. (Weird stunt casting that works: Alec Guinness as the mobster known as "The Reaper'". He's actually quite chilling)

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Uh, so am I the only one terrified to find out why they call it Goat Island?


I can't say I had ever heard of the book The Goats (even though it came out right when I was a young kid) so I had to look it up and those two people were "The Goats", meaning a scapegoat or victim. They call it Goat Island because that's where the Goats always get sent. I doubt it's anything bizarre or creepy.

 

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No need to apologise for Seagal talk, especially when it shows a genuine love for some of his later works.


Yeah. I mean, many of us still try to see his recent movies despite the likely outcome being that they are pretty putrid. And we still are happy to poke fun at him often; it was just recently that he was compared to Jabba the Hutt.

 

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Just heard Latino Reviews SPOILER filled description of the TAKEN 2 plot. Nice to see Maggie Grace doing something to help Nesson this time.

 

But damm! No Xander Berkely?


Well, that stinks. I guess his character was too busy engaging in mastering the barbecue to participate...

 

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Fat Elvis, A...Blu The Perfect Weapon?  Is this a documentary, about one of our members in...B Action Movie Thread, in one of the...Sadder moments of his life?


Oh, like me and this past Saturday night? But seriously, I wouldn't even want there to be a Blu-Ray documentary about me! It wouldn't be too interesting. Part of it would be me laughing at strange shit on YouTube, for example, and it's not like I go out often and experience wacky adventures.

 

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So when I went to check the mailbox, what did I find awaiting me? SUPERGIRL. The Anchor Bay limited edition 2 disc dvd set that I found for 14 bucks on Amazon via a 3rd party seller. It had been several years since I saw the "Director's Cut" dvd, and before that I'd seen it on tv as a kid. One thing, beside Helen Slater really filling the Supergirl costume out well, was the silly Maximum Overdrive-esque scene of a possessed construction tractor thing wreaking havoc in the town.

 

More things I'd forgotten/didn't realize. HART BOCHNER is the hunky male lead. Yes, ELLIS is the lead actor, but in a hilarious twist on the "damsel in distress" archetype, he is the one that gets to be chased by the construction tractor, and is for all intents and purposes THE GIRL of the film. He even talks like I'd imagine MOOSE from the ARCHIE comics would talk in real life. He's that much of an idiot.


I remember watching that movie once many moons ago when it was shown on ABC one Saturday night. I barely remember anything about it but I haven't felt like tracking it down, although maybe one day I will watch it again. While I doubt that you get to hear The Ellis Laugh, it still may be something interesting to watch after all of these years.

 

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Also talked to Neveldine and Taylor earlier this week, they again confirmed Crank 3D was going to happen, but it's not written yet.

 

Awesome. That is something I would really like to see.

 

By the way, that was a nice find of an article by Jox. Besides who it is about, the main image in the article is aces.

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Off Hollywood: Vernon Wells



Very awesome.  Thanks for finding that.

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Very awesome.  Thanks for finding that.



Credit to Mark Goldblatt ;)

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Agreed.  I didn't mean to say I didn't like them, necessarily.  Just that they're starting to blend together for me.  RUSLAN was very entertaining.  And INTO THE SUN ranks up there near the top with BELLY OF THE BEAST which I think is legit, silly fun.  

 


With regards to Seagal's "Golden era" movie, nothing compares to On Deadly Ground for me.

 

The entire film is full of unintentional hilarity for me. Full of Seagal ranting and Billy Bob Thorton in a bit role.

 

1) Michael Caine with a Raindeer ("FUCK these animals Stink!")

2) "What does it take to change the essence of a man?"

3) Seagal's "I didn't want to resort to violence! I don't have a choice." speeech

 

And of course this

 


 

 

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The Perfect Weapon, If you watch...Youtube, that makes you...YOUTUBULAR, which is good in my Book!  Nobody should ever have a...SADDERday Night!

 

Rene (Mr.Eko),  To celebrate your...year 28, and feel really...Great, Have a...V8, so you do not...Vegetate, and Take your gal on a...Date! I of course would see...CAGEy Nic as Ghost Rider, pursuing...Spirited Vengeance, to have a...Hell of a time on the road to a...Birthday Blast!  Happy Birthday!

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Fat Elvis, A...Blu The Perfect Weapon?  Is this a documentary, about one of our members in...B Action Movie Thread, in one of the...Sadder moments of his life?  Instead, is it a...Blu Ray disk of the film featuring a lead actor...Jeff, of whom no...Man should...Speak of!


Harsh.  The Perfect Weapon is a treasure.

 

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Ranking the Stathams, post-stardom actioners...

Crank/Crank 2

The Transporter

Safe

The Transporter 2

The Bank Job

The Mechanic

Blitz

Killer Elite

The Expendables
The Transporter 3

Death Race


 

Glad to see Safe is high up on the list.  Blitz would be much lower for me.  Overall, he does have an entertaining bunch of films to his name.

 

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With regards to Seagal's "Golden era" movie, nothing compares to On Deadly Ground for me.

 

The entire film is full of unintentional hilarity for me. Full of Seagal ranting and Billy Bob Thorton in a bit role.

 

1) Michael Caine with a Raindeer ("FUCK these animals Stink!")

2) "What does it take to change the essence of a man?"

3) Seagal's "I didn't want to resort to violence! I don't have a choice." speeech

 

And of course this

 


 

 


I've always loved this one.  Not necessarily for the intended reasons, but that goes without saying.

 

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From the set of WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE:

 

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Credit to Mark Goldblatt ;)


Underrated director, if you ask me.



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From the set of WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE:

 

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Oh man, we look to be in for a treat.

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I hope Van Damme uses this machete in the movie:

 

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Van Damme looks like the white version of Bobby Rhodes in the Demons films. Imagine if they remade both those films with him as TONY THE PIMP and HANK THE GYM INSTRUCTOR? Those films would reach a whole other lesson of awesome.
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Putting on NEVER DIE ALONE today. Despite being a huge DMX fan, I'm pretty certain I've never seen any of his movies.

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Hey this guy on Seghedin, commenting on Van Damme's facebook page, is slightly conflicted on his feelings for him:

 

 

 

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From the set of WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE:

 

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In good health and happy from the looks of things.  We should be grateful.

 

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Nordling's retrospect on PREDATOR and ROBOCOP.

 

I like his thoughts here.

 

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"I don’t think PREDATOR could be made today – at least, not in that style of filmmaking. I’m not saying that we couldn’t handle the violence; I still think PREDATOR would garnish an R rating, but I think studios would overthink the film to the point of inertia. PREDATOR is a fairly lean movie, and doesn’t take long to get to the point. We don’t get the Predator’s backstory at all except through his actions, and that’s what makes him such a fascinating villain. I don’t think the current studio mentality would go for that. No, PREDATOR would wind up explaining everything about the creature’s motivations, and it would cease being a movie about Dutch and instead being a movie about the monster effects. Dutch would be given a huge backstory as well – we’d learn all about why he passed on Libya, and everyone else would be given their own story, and the whole thing would become pointless. PREDATOR works because it’s direct, no-nonsense, and doesn’t pull the punches where it counts."

 

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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post

From the set of WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE:

 

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Someone give this man a GOLDEN GLOBE RIGHT NOW!!


 

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Nordling's retrospect on PREDATOR and ROBOCOP.

 

I like his thoughts here.

 

 

 

This was a nice piece on two of my favorite movies of all time.  I can (and have) write at length in this thread about why PREDATOR is the greatest action flick ever made.  Nordling hits on a lot of those same points.  One point I've always found interesting (and if I ever had real time on my hands and a blank check to do it would be something i'd put down in book form) is the influence that '80s/'90s Hollywood action cinema had on Asia.  If you look at some of the finest output of action from Asia right now and even in this past decade, the best flicks are TRYING to re-create or outdo their favorite films from the '80s.

 

I hate to continue to knock on the BOURNE series (which ive also done ad nauseum in this thread), but no one in Asia is trying to make "their version of BOURNE".  They are all still trying to make their version of LETHAL WEAPON, DIE HARD, or INDIANA JONES.  Several of Jackie Chan's classic films from the 80s and 90s were direct cinematic rebuttals to hollywood classics.  There would be no ARMOR OF GOD if there wasnt INDIANA JONES.  There would be no POLICE STORY if there wasnt a DIRTY HARRY (or THE PROTECTOR co-starring Danny Aiello!).  There would be no HARD BOILED if there wasn't a WILD BUNCH.  The list goes on and on.

 

Now look to Thailand...Prachya Pinkaew and Tony Jaa's ONG BAK contained hidden messages to Luc Besson pleading with him to "buy their movie!!".  They have definitely carved out their own niche, but their influences are plainly obvious.

 

I haven't seen THE RAID yet, but I am fully prepared for it to blow my socks off, and from what I've read and seen its not trying to be THE TRANSPORTER of Indonesia or anything like that.  They are clearly harkening back to a better time in world action cinema.  I hope its a sign of things to come.
 

 

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So long there are guys like Issac Florentine and Neil Marshall around, i am sure there's still hope.

 

Sean Bean doing his 24 routine in CLEANSKIN.

 

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Putting on NEVER DIE ALONE today. Despite being a huge DMX fan, I'm pretty certain I've never seen any of his movies.


 

If you start watching all his output let me know which ones are worth a damn as I've avoided most of it. He was pretty good in Exit Wounds, and Belly is probably the best thing I've seen him in. Even though I like Belly its a weird music video/dreamish/almost not a movie with often bad acting and dialouge, but still I like it, it has some amazing moments and DMX is good in it.

 

Anybody seen The Thing prequel yet? Is it worth my time?
 

 

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Well Rene liked it. Pretty sure nobody else did it.
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