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Fuck this revisionist hipster trend to shit on movies of the past and chalk it up to nostalgia, which is what I think is going on in the TR remake thread.
TR (the original) is without a doubt a top 5 arnold flick, and a top 10 action/sci-fi flick. Sure the sets look a little more like sets by today's standards and some of the make up effects dont hold up well, but the story has always remained intriguing, the performances have all been excellent, and the villains were beyond entertaining.
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Total Recall is my favorite Schwarzenegger film. It's also one of about 4 films that collectively I refer to as my #1 film. So yeah, I love the movie.
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Yeah, Total Recall is 10 kinds of awesome. That's really what's got me annoyed with the remake; there's no reason to remake it as a 'homage' to the original - the original is still a great flick on it's own terms. Why remake it, if you're not actually bringing something new to the table?
Just for the record, I'm not automatically opposed to remakes. Sometimes an old flick has a great premise, and remaking it with modern sensibilities can actually bring something new and worthwhile to the table.
For me, Cape Fear and The Thing are great examples of how to do this. I also liked remakes like Dawn of the Dead and Friday The 13., although for admittedly different reasons - I felt that Dawn of the Dead was well served by a bigger budget, as it enabled a larger scale of view of the massive zombie destruction.
And de-emphasizing Jason from a 'tard with huge mother issues into a reclusive hillbilly who got pissed over having his weed stolen by a bunch of stupid teenagers worked pretty well for a summer slasher IMO.
But with the Robocop remake looming - who knows? I consider Robocop a classic, but based on Padilla's previous work, Elite Squad 1+2, I think he could actually bring something new to the remake. Underneath all the gritty badassness and vicious satire of the original, there's a core of concern over policing in a democracy: Where do you cross the line from necessary vigilance into outright fascism? To what extent can and should the private sector influence public policies? So I'm cautiously interested in Padilla's Robocop; if he can invest an action classic with the kind of subcontext he brought to the Tropa Elite flicks, it could be a worthwhile remake. The Tropa Elite flicks had both visceral action and social commentary and I'm hoping he will explore that further under the banner of the Robo remake. As always, we'll see.
(BTW, the Tropa Elite/Elite Squad flicks are awesome, and you should see them if you haven't already done so :)
Speaking of Verhoeven, I understand that they're looking at a Starship Troopers remake too. This is a case where I think a remake should go easy on the satire - the original was great because Verhoeven used the tropes of a war movie to make fun of the media's sanitizing role in war coverage, and actually went so far as to cast the flick as if it was some Warner's teen show. Good job, Paul!
But the book is also a classic sci-fi war/adventure story, and I could totally see a straight remake as worthwhile. I'd like someone like the Wachowskis to handle a ST remake, but they're probably more into producing these days. So who do you think should remake Starship Troopers?
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I never understood why we didn't get a sequel to the Friday 13th reboot. Didn't it do very well at the Box Office?
The Nightmare reboot on the other hand was really hated by my friends. It's just "Not Fun" was their complaint.
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I hope they publish Track 'Em, Find 'Em. Kill 'Em in hard copy form. I love hearing Van Damme's accent in my head when I read it.
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My Cable Listing says that The Matrix will be showing next weekend.
Has anyone tried watched the entire trilogy (The Matrix, Matrix Reloaded, Matrix Revolutions) in a row? There's some interesting stuff in Reloaded and i am sure the first installment still holds up even today.
I Love them all. However, it is obvious the first is better. That has the mystery, the slow and deliberate pace and great visuals. Note how with a limited budget, they managed to get some great in-camera visuals. That was one of the things lost in the sequels. With unlimited resources and CGI, a fair amount of creativity was lost. They also suffered from odd-pacing, especially the second one and some truly terrible on occasions.
Still, the final Neo-Smith encounter was epic and shows what Superman Returns lacked.
He was still able to a fair amount of physical work. He looks anorexic in the first by comparison.
I'll agree with everyone else, Total Recall is top notch Arnold. It is one of my top 3 and calling it second-tier is something I cannot agree with. Anyone who doesn't think Total Recall is awesome, needs to watch it again.
I wonder what we would have gotten if Cronenberg actually went ahead. The 30+ scripts that were written over the course of production had to have had dozens of different directions.This demonstrates the lazy, lack of creativity that the remake has. They've just made a spiffier version of the original and (likely) with none of the charm. Still, they've got Cranston. I'm sure they'll waste him.
Both films were made with a complete lack of regard for future installments. Surely, if you are re-starting a series you need a direction to take it in.
They were just money-making exercises with no sense of risk. A prequel-peadophile killer film with Robert Englund would have been a bold move that New Line of old might have risked.
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Watched B13: ULTIMATUM. Always heard it didn't measure up to the first one and I'd agree with that. Just didn't have much to offer in terms of standout sequences. Enjoyed the bit with Cyril Raffaelli beating dudes up with a Van Gogh, but that's about all that stuck with me.
I'd be more inclined to take a flick that isn't readily available on any format already. I'll go with THE CHALLENGE.
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Another Rupert Pupkin "Bad movies We Love" entry.
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I'm going to finally get to the TROPA ELITE/ ELITE SQUAD flicks this week.
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By the way, DETENTION was brilliantly insane, imaginative, and a whole lotta fun. It will have a cult for sure.
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After the first two Terminator movies, Total Recall is Schwarzenegger's finest hour. I've probably clocked more viewings of Commando than all three of them, but Verhoeven's mayhem is untouchable.
I think CBS and Paramount have this one languishing, but if any genre outing owned by them demands to get put out by Olive Films, it's this.
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I used to play the Last Action Hero pinball machine at the Fresno airport whenever I'd be waiting to come back to Texas after visiting my Grandpa and family who lived over there in California. It's probably not there anymore, and I haven't been to California since 2008, but it was a really fun game.
Oh yeah, I remember that story from the past. It's like how a few years ago when I spent Christmas in Kansas, the plane flight was out of a random small airport in northwest Arkansas, and in their airport was that Die Hard arcade game which is actually a random Japanese game. I played it for a bit.
I imagine "high on drugs" is the proper way to watch the trilogy!
I am glad I haven't viewed that thread. I am also in the camp that Total Recall is still pretty darn awesome.
At least in America it did huge the first weekend but then tanked REALLY badly.
Good call. I'd also like to see movies on Blu-Ray that have received shit DVD releases. I am referring to the likes of Showdown in Little Tokyo and Ricochet. It'd be nice to see them in widescreen and not on a random cable HD station.
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Netflix keeps recommending a Kevin Bacon/ Wilford Brimley movie called END OF THE LINE where evidently they hijack a locomotive to protest the closing of the local railroad company. Not sure what the deal with it is, but I'd for sure watch it if Brimley used his HARD TARGET accent ha.
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I hadn't heard of that film but the plot makes me laugh.
Two random things... Friday night when I went out and saw that hairy dude get a bodyshot off of his hairy body, I have to mention that for some reason the MC usually referred to him as SPARKY. I have no idea why.
Then, yesterday at that convention not only was there a Lethal Weapon 3 table, but someone working there was wearing a Lethal Weapon 3 shirt! Awesome.
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PSYCHOTRONIC NETFLIX vol. 12
LE PROFESSIONNEL has been on my radar for years. And THE MOON IN THE GUTTER has a cult. Still, most curious about STEEL DAWN:" Patrick Swayze fights battles in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. You need more?" Not sure why I've never gotten around to that Swayze before.
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Has anyone seen XIII: The Series with Stuart Townsend? Watching an ep right now thanks to a free HBO preview. It's really not bad. Enjoying more than 24 at the very least.
Aisha Tyler is in it as well (Wow, she really looks like her Lana character in Archer).
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I had a great time with both reboots, especially the Friday The 13th one, for the already mentioned fact that Jason is some crazy survivalist hermit.

I'm watching The Expendables Extended Cut, I love the extra comedy in this and the extra character stuff, Statham being a manchild, Daniels being a sleazy bastard. Really surprised they cut out a lot of the stuff they did. Bloody hated the music choices though. I'm glad the sequel is sticking to classic rock (Spoilers?)
I hope they publish Track 'Em, Find 'Em. Kill 'Em in hard copy form. I love hearing Van Damme's accent in my head when I read it.
Oh yeah, after seeing the Extended Cut, I really wish that this one would have been released to theaters instead of the theatrical cut. I mean, I still loved the theatrical cut, but this one has a lot more chemistry and character moments that make the film even more seem like something from the 80's.

Both films were made with a complete lack of regard for future installments. Surely, if you are re-starting a series you need a direction to take it in.
They were just money-making exercises with no sense of risk. A prequel-peadophile killer film with Robert Englund would have been a bold move that New Line of old might have risked.
Yeah, they killed Jason off at the end of the Friday The 13th reboot, which I found to be a ballsy move, but when we didn't get a sequel the next year or this past year (it's hard to believe it came out in 2009!), it started to get really irritating, especially from the fact that there apparently already is a script that the writers of the reboot already have done.
I always thought they would just do the Fred Krueger prequel instead of an actual reboot/remake. Englund always seemed to have faith they'd do that, and he seemed genuinely excited by it as well.

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LE PROFESSIONNEL has been on my radar for years. And THE MOON IN THE GUTTER has a cult. Still, most curious about STEEL DAWN:" Patrick Swayze fights battles in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. You need more?" Not sure why I've never gotten around to that Swayze before.
I've praised Le Professionnel on here before. Just last night I saw Breathless which also featured a really young Jean-Paul Belmondo. You won't be disappointed by it. It's really good. Steel Dawn is one I've been meaning to see, even though I've seen some of it, years ago on TBS or TNT. It was one of those channels.
Saw Interview With The Vampire last night. Was really surprised at how much I ended up liking it. No wimpy pussy sparkly vampires here. Just the ultimate vampire bromance, and an awesome finale that features Pitt wielding his SCYTHE OF VENGEANCE while he burns down a theater full of vampires. Highly recommended!
I also saw Paris, Texas with Harry Dean Stanton in the lead role. Nice quiet movie about a man getting back in touch with the son he left, as well as his young wife (Natassjia Kinski. Yes, she's Harry Dean Stanton's wife in the film. How lucky his character must have been!). I dug it.
Then I saw The Beast Within. Saw it last year on Instant, and I'd seen it back in 2003 when I'd rented the dvd, after having passed over the vhs for so many years before. A veritable crop of amazing character actors. The sadly recently gone from us R.G. Armstrong, Ronny Cox, L.Q. Jones, and Bibi Besch make up the main characters. Ronny Cox and Bibi Besch have a 17 year old son who is the product of an assault on Bibi Besch after they'd just gotten married, and he's starting to get sick, as well as mutate/become possessed by the manbeast that made him. Made by the same Aussie guy who did the second and third Howling films. Pretty good horror movie, with some top notch effects.
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Oh yeah, after seeing the Extended Cut, I really wish that this one would have been released to theaters instead of the theatrical cut. I mean, I still loved the theatrical cut, but this one has a lot more chemistry and character moments that make the film even more seem like something from the 80's.
I am also a big fan of that cut, though I'm such a nit-picky bastard I went and re-cut both versions into my own cut. It will be interesting to see if I have to do a re-cut though, seeing as they're bringing Charisma Carpenter back for the sequel and I completely cut her out of my version.
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What was wrong with poor Charisma Carpenter? And wasn't it cool seeing Jason Statham come to her rescue/ kick the abusive boyfriend.'s ass? She gave him his best character moment. (Well except for throwing knives with Mickey)
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The ONLY thing I'd change from the extended cut is the Diamond Eyes song playing over the climactic assault. Sly really should have left that one off.
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Just watched a solid little B movie....Darkening Sky, starring RIDER STRONG! "Rider" (because I'm sure his real name is Bob BoBster or something equally dull) resembles a twentysomething Jim Carey (or maybe it's that Jim Carey affects a twentysomething hairstyle).
Anyways, RIDER STRONG plays a man drifting through life, tormented by dreams and headaches while pursuing his studies into UFO Abductions (I should clarify that the UFO are not being abducted but are performing abductions). He meets a Hawt Goth Chick played by Danielle Keaton (there seem to be a lot of offspring of famous actors in this film) and together they investigate a group of UFO believers who aren't all they seem!
There is a twist (yeah) that you can see about 10 minutes into the film, but it's pretty good.
Also watched the 6 hour miniseries Carlos: The Jackal via Netflix Streaming. Man those European actors must love Raging Bull, because they sure like to grow a big belly and show it off for the camera, before slimming down to show themselves as Young and Virile. Also lots of smoking hot women smoking a lot. Pretty good story with lots of sex and guns set to (slightly anachronistic I think) Punk music.
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I guess I just liked the "Guy's Night" feel of the movie without those scenes. Plus, I think it makes all his scenes where he's bitching about his love life a lot funnier. And it makes the movie shorter, which I like.
I did change that. There's also more Gary Daniels (and Steve Austin) because there are moments exclusive to each version but now all in one film. I know they shot a bit more with Daniels (including a bit where he shoots a villager he's seen beating), but none of those deleted scenes are yet available so I couldn't put them in there. Another thing I tried to edit a bit better was the Lundgren/Li fight. I really wish I had the raw footage for that.
But back on that song, I don't mind it like I did when i first heard it. It's not in my version, but it makes the scene more of a celebration that the team is all together and doing their thing, which I think works. Brian Tyler does a good job, but his score for that scene reminds me too much of the Saw theme. I would have used something more like the track actually titled "The Expendables" there myself.
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So many good stuff leaving Instant this week: On top of all the Italian stuff DEATHRACE 2000, WOMEN IN CAGES, and THE BIG BIRD CAGE. No way I'm squeezing everything in.
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... plus, plenty of female nudity, featuring women "with perfect nipple placement". I've said it before but I saw it at a midnight screening and it was a great experience as the crowd was going crazy for it, and some random ladies by me were freaking out as if they were going to soil their pants a few dozen times throughout. Awhile later I saw it at home on DVD and yeah... not a wise move on my part. I sure as hell didn't like it as much as I did in that atmosphere.
I've only seen bits and pieces of the EC but one of them was the big shootout and yeah, I did not like that song being used there.

Just watched a solid little B movie....Darkening Sky, starring RIDER STRONG! "Rider" (because I'm sure his real name is Bob BoBster or something equally dull) resembles a twentysomething Jim Carey (or maybe it's that Jim Carey affects a twentysomething hairstyle).
Also watched the 6 hour miniseries Carlos: The Jackal via Netflix Streaming. Man those European actors must love Raging Bull, because they sure like to grow a big belly and show it off for the camera, before slimming down to show themselves as Young and Virile. Also lots of smoking hot women smoking a lot. Pretty good story with lots of sex and guns set to (slightly anachronistic I think) Punk music.
I hadn't heard of the film before but the premise does make me laugh. Plus, that actually is his legit name. I remember him best from the 90's TV show Boy Meets World, which I did watch back in the day, and no not for Topanga although I did not complain about her, ahem, blossoming talents as she got older. As for the miniseries that is something else I need to track down. It certainly does sound European to me; besides the getting fat and then getting slim part, there's the smoking and sex/nudity, which I say are two hallmarks of a European production, at least in recent years.
By the way, besides R.G. Armstrong's death (yeah, I now unfortunately believe it to be true), also on Friday another character actor (Norman Alden) passed away at the age of 87. He's one of those "those guys" that you'll recognize. Besides providing a voice for the Transformers animated movie he guest-starred in a metric F-ton of TV shows and was Lou the coffee shop owner in Back to the Future, Foremen in They Live, and was a coach in Semi-Tough.
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... plus, plenty of female nudity, featuring women "with perfect nipple placement". I've said it before but I saw it at a midnight screening and it was a great experience as the crowd was going crazy for it, and some random ladies by me were freaking out as if they were going to soil their pants a few dozen times throughout. Awhile later I saw it at home on DVD and yeah... not a wise move on my part. I sure as hell didn't like it as much as I did in that atmosphere.
I've only seen bits and pieces of the EC but one of them was the big shootout and yeah, I did not like that song being used there.
I hadn't heard of the film before but the premise does make me laugh. Plus, that actually is his legit name. I remember him best from the 90's TV show Boy Meets World, which I did watch back in the day, and no not for Topanga although I did not complain about her, ahem, blossoming talents as she got older. As for the miniseries that is something else I need to track down. It certainly does sound European to me; besides the getting fat and then getting slim part, there's the smoking and sex/nudity, which I say are two hallmarks of a European production, at least in recent years.
By the way, besides R.G. Armstrong's death (yeah, I now unfortunately believe it to be true), also on Friday another character actor (Norman Alden) passed away at the age of 87. He's one of those "those guys" that you'll recognize. Besides providing a voice for the Transformers animated movie he guest-starred in a metric F-ton of TV shows and was Lou the coffee shop owner in Back to the Future, Foremen in They Live, and was a coach in Semi-Tough.
Yeah, that lovely lady with "Perfect nipple placement" needs to be in more movies. She's smokin'!
Vanessa and I saw it in a nearly empty movie theater the following weekend (and yeah, the drop off rate was HUMONGOUS.), and I'll also remember the movie for being the trade off for her dragging me to see Twilight in the dollar theater the following weekend, since I dragged her to see Rambo Vorhees. I was slightly disappointed in most of the kills. Anyone who goes to see a Jason or Freddy movie goes for the inventive kills, and only a few were memorable (most of the opening slaughter, arrow through the eye, flying axe to the back) or just flat out brutal (extended cut screwdriver death). Even though it was in a mostly empty theater, I still had a great time with it. Actually there were a bunch of douchebag teenagers who more than likely snuck in and were being annoying, so in one of the few times I've had to do this, I went to the ticket taker and told them about these little bastards and they sent an usher in who just looked at them, and they all shut up for the rest of the movie.
Yeah, I hadn't seen a lot of news outlets reporting on good ol' R.G., and I was hoping it was false, but then I found a website that confirmed it, even though it wasn't a news outlet. It still sucks a lot. I'll be seeing Predator some time this week.
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The video store closest to me is open to 2 AM, so I made a quick run and picked up TOTAL RECALL. The first hour is just perfect. I've said it before, but the delightfully snarling Michael Ironside is like the secret weapon of the movie. A classic villain. and a movie moment that always cracks me up: Arnie fighting with the old woman for the suitcase"FUCK YOU YOU ASSHOLE!"
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My All New Arnold Schwarzenegger Top 10!
1. THE TERMINATOR
2. T2
3. CONAN THE BARBARIAN
4. TOTAL RECALL
5. PREDATOR
6. COMMANDO
7. RAW DEAL
8. LAST ACTION HERO
9. TRUE LIES
10 RED HEAT
Bonus Most Underrated: THE 6TH DAY
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That's cool that the video store is open until 2 A.M. One of the ones I frequented was open until midnight, so my friends and I would always go around 10:30 or 11 to go rent movies. Then it sadly closed down.
Watched History Of The World: Part I. Still hilarious and one of my favorite Mel Brooks' comedies. we were going to revisit Blazing Saddles, but decided to hold that off for tomorrow.
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I'd put Church's "and if you try to fuck me, in some kind of weird cockamamie scheme of yours" back in too. I don't know why they cut that to begin with.
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What are the odds this just got put on youtube;
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Watched B13: ULTIMATUM. Always heard it didn't measure up to the first one and I'd agree with that. Just didn't have much to offer in terms of standout sequences. Enjoyed the bit with Cyril Raffaelli beating dudes up with a Van Gogh, but that's about all that stuck with me.
Heard they'll be a B13 remake with Paul Walker starring in it. Don't know what to feel about that.
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Favorite Arnold TOTAL RECALL quip? For me:
"Doug, honey... you wouldn't hurt me, would you, sweetheart? Sweetheart, be reasonable. After all, we're married!"
[Lori goes for her gun, Quaid shoots her in the head, killing her]
"Consider that a divorce!"
Oh, Dan O' Bannon!
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Mine would go a little something like this:
1.) Terminator 2: Judgment Day
2.) True Lies
3.) Predator
4.) Total Recall
5.) The Terminator
6.) Commando
7.) Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
8.) Eraser
9.) Kindergarten Cop
10.) Twins
Admission, I've yet to see Conan the Barbarian in its entirity (I saw segments of it edited for television 20 years back) nor Red Heat. I've been giving thought to blind-buying both on Blu-ray. Additionally, I absolutely hate The 6th Day and Collateral Damage - End of Days, however, I sort of dig.
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Also watched the 6 hour miniseries Carlos: The Jackal via Netflix Streaming. Man those European actors must love Raging Bull, because they sure like to grow a big belly and show it off for the camera, before slimming down to show themselves as Young and Virile. Also lots of smoking hot women smoking a lot. Pretty good story with lots of sex and guns set to (slightly anachronistic I think) Punk music.
I cannot emphasize how awesome "Carlos" is. It's very true to the story of how he was kind of a terrorist free agent, and how that made him some sort of asshole counterculture pop figure. The beginning of part two has a very tense hostage sequence, and part three is the humiliating fall from grace, complete with severe crotch pains. Part one also builds to a pretty exciting botched siege of an airport. It's all pretty slick and engaging stuff, though prepare for that length. I originally saw it thinking it was three hours and nineteen minutes, not 319 minutes.
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More "Bad Movies We Love" from Rupert Pupkin:
Streets of Fire (Walter Hill, 1984)
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Favorite Arnold TOTAL RECALL quip? For me:
"Doug, honey... you wouldn't hurt me, would you, sweetheart? Sweetheart, be reasonable. After all, we're married!"
[Lori goes for her gun, Quaid shoots her in the head, killing her]
"Consider that a divorce!"
Oh, Dan O' Bannon!
Cheesiest (but still fun): "SCREEEEEEEEEEEWWWWW YYYYOOOOOOU!"
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I had a feeling you'd remember that dame pretty well.
"Blah" is how I feel about it. Sure, it's funny seeing him be that goofy character in the Fast & Furious films and even be a young D-bag in She's All That. Other than that, though... no thanx.
It's appropriate he gets mentioned today. After all, today's his birthday, and now he's sixty-five. Wow; that should make all of us feel old.
Good Lord; at least with that foreign cover, they just don't give an F about being a bold-faced ripoff of Taken. That film's been brought up before but yikes are they being blatant about it.
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Part of me kind of misses the Arnie/Sly feud/rivalry. I was Team Arnold all the way.
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Awfully generous to Piper's upper-body on that cover. Still sick though. Gonna be all over that Blu.
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Hey, Molt, it's been a while since you did an Arnold Top 10. You still have T2 at number 1? COMMANDO top 5?
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I don't know about exact order, but the 10 I'd go with likely hasn't changed much:
COMMANDO
T2
TERMINATOR
PREDATOR
TOTAL RECALL
ERASER
CONAN
RUNNING MAN
T3
END OF DAYS
Hopefully it'll look different a year from now.
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Yeah, that cover looks like big box vhs cover art. So friggin' awesome.
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Holy shit, LIVE LIKE A COP, DIE LIKE A MAN throws you right into the Action!
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I like the banter between the leads and the police secretary. In a perfect world that's how Bond and Moneypenny would converse.
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