THE SHIELD Season 5 on F/X - Page 2

Another good episode. Forrest Whitaker is gunning for those Emmy's haha.
Loved the tension between Vic and Kavaunaugh at the end as well. And I'm liking the new young cop. She's showed quick thinking with the gonarhea in the mouth bit and then I liked the disgust on her face as she was leaving the house. But is it too much to ask to offset all the man ass with a lady ass from time to time?

Vic with a knife to Imalia's (sp?) throat. Damn. The Shield has kept the pressure on this year without ever seeming false. No other show consistently pushes as hard (umbilical cord?) and does it so well. I love 24 but if I had to pick? No contest. If Vic had cut her throat it would've been more of a nut-punch than Terry Crowley.

I've really liked the pace of the last 2 eps, and they are getting everything just right.
The series takes damn near a year long break during the season? That doesn't sound right, nor does it make any sense at all.
I've watched this show since the beginning, and if I remember correctly the break period lasts only about a month or so.

Some uneasy moments, mainly the description of giving CPR to the baby and Vic letting loose on Imalia. I like how Kavanaugh is trying to form a friendship with Lem.

4 episodes in and I'm really puzzled why they haven't shown that undercover cop from the end of last season.

Definitely some uneasy bits (especially with the description of what happened to the baby with a very pregnant Danny leading the questioning).

Kavanaugh walking in on Vic at Imalia's? Great to watch. I love Kavanaugh's perplexed, how in the hell did you find her look.

Tell us about Claudette already. I'd like to know what she is dying of......

I love how Shane is working Lem to cover his own ass, when Lem is in trouble to begin with because of Shane.

Great episode.

Was I the only one to think it seemed more like a 2-hour episode? Felt like it was never going to end... not a bad thing!

What an ending, huh? The whole show felt like a slow burn, building up to that confrontation. I half expected Kavanaugh to say, "You're not gonna shoot me, are you Vic?"

F.T.W. Kid

The expression when Vic put it all together, realizing that she'd been with IA all along, was amazing. It stripped away all of Vic's ambiguity--there was such incredible cold fury iin his face. If he didn't grab the knife from her, he might have torn her to pieces with his bare hands. When Kavanaugh burst in on him, you could see Vic running through all the possibilities in his head before he decided to play it off. I can't imagine this whole thing ending without a pretty serious body count. It's going to just depend on how long it takes Vic to figure out how to orchestrate it. Damn--a whole week until the next episode.

Solid episode but I think Kavanaugh bought into Acevada helping Shane a bit much.

And if last week wasn't an indication I think Vic reminding Shane to have his wife keep her mouth shut could be big. She's weak and I could see Shane turning them all in on the Money train and Vic shooting the cop.

I was hoping Vic would kill her just because it would have been an amazing show of balls to have Vic do something that unredeeming this far along in the show, when lately they've been toning him down somewhat.

He doesn't really give a shit about Lem, though. The birthday gift was just a ploy to try and drive any kind of wedge between Lem and the Team, by saying, "Hey, these guys really don't care about you."

Do you really want to know, or was that a rhetorical question?

I just don't want it strung out over 12 episodes. Get whatever is ailing Claudette out in the open and then have stories around how it affects her job performance as opposed to having Dutch sniff out the whole story in 12 episodes.

He's the same Vic as ever, he just appears kinder/gentler on the surface since the team has been forced to convey the appearance that they're good guys with Kavanaugh always listening.
As for Vic not killing her, don't fret it, there's still plenty of time for that. He just couldn't have gotten away with it had he acted upon the urge to do so at that moment. The restraint he displayed by not doing so, combined with the way he played it off with Kavanaugh is just another example of how he and the team have been able to stay clean all these years.
I suspect he'll have something more elaborate in mind for Imalia before too long, since Vic told her IAD won't have a case anymore if she's not around.

Of course, but what I liked about it was how essentially Whitaker is playing "good cop/bad cop" by himself. He's almost taking the exact opposite course of action with Vic's ex-wife.

That's this year's hook, isn't it. Kavanaugh is just as amoral as Vic--he just does whatever suits his purposes at the time. I'd bet that this becomes more of a theme as the season progresses.

All-out evil or traitorous? Like Terry?

Do you think she really regretted her actions? Most likely she was just trying to cover her ass because she got caught. I forget what the exact quote was, but when Rawling and that other IAD cop met with her at the end of last season she said something about being loyal to wherever the money was coming from. She could have easily tipped him off if she actually felt any gratitude for how he's tried to help her and her son.

Dammit, I missed this week's episode. I'll have to catch it later on in the week.

Yes, indeed. Such a good episode this time around...

i wish i knew what you are talking.

i just get the impression that the producers decided to get a big name actor, whitaker, to play an iad cop which pretty much omitted the undercover cop...but who knows he may show up again in the end.

loved danny's final word on that hot cop.

The undercover cop works on CSI: LV

Having that other IAD cop around would be huge in trying to keep tabs on the Strike Team while they are on the job. He wasn’t going to be in their inner circle but would have been an asset in describing how the team is operating while Lem is wired. He still may come back but since Imalia knew about him I would think the show would have tried to explain his absence to this point in some way.

Coupled with the fact that she pointed out to Vic that she's an informer. It's what she does (for or against Vic). He should have expected for something like this to happen (it's her nature).

I would imagine that the last circle of hell is reserved for cold blooded murderers. Yeah, you can argue that Terry was kind of a scumbag and violated that unspoken oath that you don't rat out your partners, but to argue that that's a valid reason for Vic to put a bullet in his head is absurd.

No.

Vic is a dirty cop. Period. It wasn't Terry's responsibility to look out for the welfare of Vic's family. Vic is the one who put their future in jeopardy by putting himself in a position where he could be sent to jail for his actions.

I don't remeber seeing Terry put Vic's life in physical danger out on the streets. He was there to collect incriminating evidence, not get Vic killed.

As far as betraying Vic's confidence...I'm not arguing that Terry was a great guy or a hero for what he was doing, but to say that he deserved to die is a bizarre argument. I love the show and Vic as a character, but do you really want cops like him out on the streets in real life?

Excellent episode AGAIN.

I agree with all the adulation for Chiklis' performance when he found out Imolia was the source of everything. You could literally see the mix of anger and shock come over his face. Great stuff.

Having a face off between Kavanaugh and Chiklis at the end was very uneasy. Kavanaugh already surmises that Vic is onto him, this is probably the final straw.

The whole thing with the baby was quite disturbing too. The actual explanation of what happened to it was also quite sickening, but somehow fitting when the girl explained that they were actually trying to save the baby.

Fixed.

Good lord. Put Vic's treatment of suspected criminals to the side. What about all the other criminal things he has done. Money train anyone? Ok. So that was after Terry's death. He had been taking money and drugs from various factions all along. Plain and simple, Vic's a criminal. Sure he has a soft side when it comes to kids. Sure, he gets thugs off the street (but wait, usually he does that so he can get a better angle on someone (and more money)). Terry was doing his job. Taking down a corrupt cop. Vic shooting Terry to protect Vic's gravy train? Just shows you how corrupt AND wrong.

Is Vic a sympathetic criminal? Hell, yeah. Similar to Tony Soprano. You know he's a bad guy, but you find yourself hoping he makes it.

My guess for Claudette's sickness...Sarcoidosis or Lupus.

Whatever she has it has definitely ruined her desire to maintain a decent hairstyle. I love the character but YIKES!

That chick charging through the window head-first and biting into that dude was one of the craziest things I've ever seen on television. I've said it before and I'll say it again: no show still manages to shock me like The Shield.

I gotta say I'm really enjoying this cat-and-mouse game between Vic and Kavanaugh.

That windshield scene was nuts.

Nobody plays all the angles like Vic. I knew he wasn't actually going to be dealing with that Russian but I couldn't quite tell his entire plan until it all went down.

I hope this isn't the only time we get to see Kavanaugh-Hulk.

Have to agree. From the opening scene to the ending, just a great solid episode. Even the B storylines are compelling (Danni's pregnancy, Claudette's illness, the rookie cop). While I certainly enjoyed the Glenn Close season, this one seems to be a step above.

Next week looks good with Kavanaugh and Vic's wife.


I must say Whitaker does a fantastic "What the fuck just happened" look.

Looks like Kavanaugh gets back on his feet next week.

Great episode, great season, it's fun watching Vic setting all his little power plays in motion.

Only criticism, immediatly after that chick/head/windshield/gnawing the music should have kicked in.

I reallly want to see the grilling of his wife. She took the gum so she should crack. And Kavanaugh has grown on me. And I wonder how much Aceveda is even going to bother to help anymore. He almost seems to believe Vic will jus never get caught.

Ehhhh.....I missed it again. Stupid me.

Finally caught up on everything, including Episode 5.

Great stuff so far. It's nice to see Vic sort of in control, an even-handed fight back and forth vs. Season 3 which was all about them covering their tracks and one diaster after another. Kavanaugh is definitely a worthy adversary, but he got his ass handed to him this week.

I see some strife forming in the Strike Team perhaps with the return of lem's ulcer and the fact that he is, ironically and tragically, the only one truly on the hook. Shane put his foot in his mouth again by pretty much begging "down't snitch on me okay?"

I thought Vic might kill IAD's witness girl, but I'm glad he didn't.

The subplots are pretty good. I think it's fairly obvious by now that Danny is pregnant with Vic's son, otherwise everything she's saying and their scenes together are just meaningless and stupid misdirection. The hottie newbie is cool, I want to see Dutch put the moves on her already. Finally we get Claudette's mystery illness which looks no be a non-issue now.

I'm looking forward to next week and the grilling of Mrs. Mackey and Kavanaugh in hyperdrive, kicking Billings out of his own office.

Amazing episode this week. I feel bad for Emolia at this point, she seems genuinely sorry for betraying Vic, especially after all the help he's been with her son.

This is quite possibly my favorite episode of the entire series, and to think that perhaps the best is yet to come!

"Who says there are no police around when you need them?"
"Who says that?"
"Yeah, who says that!"

Fucking priceless...

It's going to be interesting to see what will happen with Lem. He's not going to be much use to Kavanaugh as a participant in the case against Mackey so I'm curious how he's going to be dealt with once Kavanaugh moves into the barn.

Actually I guess I'm the only one who didn't like the episode.

I mean it just seemed way too obviously since last week that the deal wasn't really a deal.

Also I know its a small point, but don't they have bugging devices that aren't tracable (or at least not as obvious as a chip).

I'm hoping Forrest gets something next week. The problem that I'm having with his character is that he seems to think things are going well when the obviously are not.

I chalk that up to overconfidence. Aceveda warned him that he will get played, and he SERIOUSLY got played. While I don't think it was a real secret the way they showed the strike team setting up this drug exchange that it was a sting, it was still fucking well thought out and planned.

So far Kavanaugh hasn't really hurt Vic too badly...I imagine he is going to even the score somewhere down the line as he seems to be turning up the heat a bit. I actually want to see the strike team go through some real gritty adversity that tests their loyalties ala shane's fiasco with antoine last year. The show seems to be at its best when the pressure is the highest.

But all in all, another very very strong episode. This is gearing up to be a legendary season.

Oh ya, no one is going to give me props for calling Claudette's illness?

In the world, sure. In the inventory of a cash strapped city police force, probably not. "The Wire" did a nice job with this, showing what crappy surveillance gear (among other things) got signed over to them. It was archaic, so they had to go begging and pulling in favors with one of the colleagues who worked at the federal (i.e. unlimited budget) level.

really good episode. even though the sting was pretty obvious it was nicely executed. nice week's show look's like it's gonna be a good one.

now come on, was i the only one that noticed "dutch MAN'S gotta plan". i nearly lost my shit on that one.

Totally agree you could see they were setting Kavanaugh up a mile away.

Dutch's line cracked me up as well he is usually has one quote a show I crack up at.

I came on to this show late and just started watching maybe 2 months ago. I watched all 4 seasons over Xmas but in my opinion as of now this is the best one yet. I really hope they dont quit after this year seeing the show is getting better and better in my opinion.

Ok, thanks I didn't know that. I never seen the wire (don't got HBO, is it a real good show?). Ok, that explains something that I always questioned when I saw it on TV.