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The Myth of Squirting- A Discussion

post #1 of 64
Thread Starter 
I found this at another forum...

Female Spunk Debunked
by Dumblonde

I undertook this task strictly on my own. Am I insane? No, but I did start to question the wisdom of doing so after the hate mail I received just from a silly review I did about Seymore Butts Guide to Female Ejaculation. This continues to draw fire, although I have yet to hear from a female on the subject. It seems to have struck a nerve or something, and that certainly wasn't my intention. I simply felt that this whole thing had gotten out of hand, and it was time for a reality check. I never dreamed it would be taken so personally. Frankly, had I known the review would be high on list of the most read reviews of all time here, I would have taken more time and written a better one, I assure you.

So, that's why I haven't exactly been a ball of fire on this piece. I mean, the email testamonials have just started to taper off, so I'd like to ask you up front to please not send these to me anymore. I don't wish to argue about this, and I get no pleasure from shattering anyone's illusion. I have included links to medical sites that you should submit these to, should you feel the need.

I seem to the only one on the internet speaking out against this nonsense. Run a search and you'll find a ton of sites about the subject, but nothing from anyone I would trust with my cat's healthcare, let alone mine.
This 'female ejaculation' stuff is spewn all over the web, and I never fully realized how big the problem was until I casually started searching for some CREDIBLE information and maybe, just maybe, some assistance and backup to strengthen my case.

Well, guess what? There isn't anything on the web about this on any well respected medical online site. Although frustrating for me, it makes perfect sense. There is nothing on it, because it only exists in Porno World. Not the Real World. The medical community in general doesn't care to even address such a non issue, let alone get tainted with anything to do with pornography.

Please remember, I have nothing to gain here - in fact, I'm certain to take a lot of heat for this, but I have to do it, at least I'll know I tried. From emails I've received, it seems people are under the impression that I have a personal crusade going to outlaw squirting in videos, and this is not the case at all. Although I have yet to see one where it was depicted anywhere close to being as erotic as I feel it could be, it's certainly harmless enough, especially considering how many misogynist, choke & puke titles there are. Furthermore, I have nothing against the practice personally, in fact, I think it can be fun if both people are into it.

In keeping with AdultDVDTalk's pro-consumer code of ethics, a place you can count on to get the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth when it comes to your pornography, I also felt it fitting that you learn the truth right here, right now. I can honestly say that I don't know Ms. Stephanie's views on the subject, but as a U.C. Berkeley graduate and someone who has never edited one review in over 2000 now, I am confident she will publish this regardless.

Why don't I just let it go? Believe me, I've asked myself this many times. After all, it's not hurting anyone. Or is it?

It hurts other women who's husband or boyfriend believes this, and those numbers are not insignificant. The most fervent believers are males who perhaps have a difficult time separating porn fantasy from reality. Some actually start to think of their partner as 'sexually repressed' or otherwise inadequate because she's not a squirter, or doesn't care to venture into this area, which is perfectly understandable. I have seen this put forth by some of these female ejaculation evangelists out there, and that's just not right. Imagine how you would feel if, say, pornos depicted men ejaculating clear across the room, and we started expecting the same from you, or if they showed nothing but males with enormous penises? Oh wait....well, maybe those are not the best examples, and it's probably good that most females are not into porn, but I think you know what I'm getting at.

But the main reason is, it is just not medically possible, it is a myth, a hoax, and it's time put down this dog.

Let me lay out a few facts, plain and simple, before going into details, because it seems some people are still confused, and I can't blame them.

1) Is squirting real?

Yes, squirting is very real, but it has nothing to do with orgasm unless your timing is good, and it is NOT female ejaculation.

2) Do females ejaculate?

No, females do not ejaculate, males do.

3) What is it, then, and where does it come from?

Any copious fluid expelled by a female during sex, spontaneous or not, comes from the bladder. This much HAS been proven. And if it comes from the bladder, it is urine, this is the bladder's only function. It should have less concentrated levels of urine components than say, your morning urine does, but that's all.

4) I agree it's often faked in the movies, but..

No buts! It is either urine or preloaded water. Period. There simply is no other structure or organ in the female's anatomy capable of producing this copious fluid.

5) My girlfriend squirts, and believe me, it's not pee!

Sigh. Until you have this mysterious fluid tested by a credible medical laboratory, I'm sorry, I don't believe you. Why has no one been able to do this in over a decade, anyway? This is very simple, anyone with a microscope and a rudimentary knowledge of urine components can do it.

6) But this was different than pee. It was clear and had no odor, etc.

I'll bet you're not a morning person.

7) Are you saying my girlfriend is pissing on me? Eww!

No, not in the way you're taking it. But if the thought is that repulsive to you, I suggest halting this activity.
post #2 of 64
Thread Starter 
CON'T...

8) Why are you being such a pussy about this, anyway?

I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound so irritated. It's just that I get tired of arguing. These are the facts, like them or not, they are irrefutable. You cannot argue anatomy. If you don't believe me, research it for yourself, but NOT on the internet. Talk to your own doctor, or read a credible medical textbook, such as Gray's. Go to your local library. There is nothing they don't know about our plumbing and how it works. There are no more mysteries, undiscovered organs, or strange fluids that they don't know about. But in case the physical impossibility of this is not enough to convince you, here are some more points to consider -

Much has been made of the Skene's glands, so let's get this out of the way as well. I've included a blown up illustration, but keep in mind, these are almost microscopic urethral glands that simply cannot, no way in hell, produce any noticeable quantity of anything. But it was a nice try.

Think about this as well - do you really believe that all of a sudden females developed this ability? Why is it not depicted in older porn, or even mentioned? Why only in the last 10 years or so?

There's also various local and international laws prohibiting "pissing videos", not to mention customs clearance problems, such as Ben Dover was having trying to get his videos into Great Britain. Given ample opportunity to present evidence that these are not depictions of urination, he has not been able to do so. In fact, no one has even attempted to put forth a case as far as I know, so this should tell you something. I don't necessarily agree with these various bans and regulations, but that's beside the point.

The porn industry has a long standing tradition similar to the Brotherhood of Magicians, ( I was going to say the Mafia, but thought of a better...simile) which frowns on anyone giving away any trade secrets, and trying to get anyone to divulge such things would ruin the illusion and possibly...*ostracize* the one who speaks out.

Even so, I was able to break the code of silence thanks to a producer of several of these popular squirting titles. I will not divulge his name however, for obvious reasons. I CAN tell you what he told me, as well as how this is accomplished. Virtually ALL of the scenes in his videos were a product of modern technology. That's right, a turkey baster and tap water. I know, you're either shocked, or just added LIAR to my multitude of sins, but you can polygraph me, I don't care. That's the truth. I can also tell you that it was not Seymore, because except for a few of those gushers, I do think Alisha Klass did indeed squirt. Urine.

I asked about this last year here, because it had happened to me more than once while having sex, and hearing about 'female ejaculation', I was interested to find out more.

Well, although I got a lot of positive feedback, I still was not fully convinced. It would have made ME feel better to think that was what it was, but I'm afraid it just didn't sound logical. After futile searching all over the www, I decided to visit my gynocologist, who explained very simply that it was nothing more than a weak pc muscle, the cause being stress maybe, who knows, but it really wasn't a big deal. He just explained how to exercize it, and in a very short time, no more problem or worry. In fact, I enjoyed the 'exercizes' so much that I can proudly say that I have an extremely strong muscle now, and total control over it.

Yes, I have engaged in this practice with a certain partner, and it actually can be very...hot, for lack of a better term. It's important to drink a LOT of water however, insuring that that is basically all that comes out. I think that's all I care to say of a personal nature.

I recently went back to my doctor mainly to ask him some more questions, but it was time for a pap smear anyway. I asked if he was aware that females now ejaculated? Well, he was quite shocked to hear this, I guess no one had bothered to tell him! At least I made him laugh, and though he claims not to watch any porn, he was vaguely aware of this 'squirting' business, but never gave it much thought, figuring it was just another porn kink. Being an OB/GYN, he is only too aware that there is indeed a sucker born every minute, and there is little the medical community can do to stem the tide of this alarming birthrate. I asked if he would care to give a statement that I could post, but for reasons stated earlier, he didn't care to get that involved. He is a very wise man.

Here are some links to some excellent medical sites, btw. Just don't expect to find anything under "female ejaculation" or "squirting", but if you have a testionial you'd like to share, I would suggest sending it to them instead of me. It's obvious no one has informed them of this amazing phenomenon. Talk about being left out of the loop!

Mayo Clinic
Johns Hopkins University
HON, Geneva, Switzerland
National Institute of Health

*it could be just my pesky paranoia, but I want it known that should anything happen to me of an adverse nature, my attorney has a copy of the 'Squirt Papers' and is instructed to go public with them.

Thank you for your time ~
Dumblonde

Thoughts?
post #3 of 64
What forums have you been browsing?
post #4 of 64
Fabfunk's Reason #247 to be a Necrophiliac:

A dead woman will NEVER pee on you during sex.
post #5 of 64
Don't ask. Also, don't touch anything he may have touched first.
post #6 of 64
I don't even open threads he starts without sterile instruments around.
post #7 of 64
His posts are like multiple ALoD's.
post #8 of 64
Thread Starter 
Um, I was honestly wondering...


no one else is curious about female squirting?
post #9 of 64
Can we please stop titling these fucking sex threads with explicit descriptions of bodily functions? Jesus fucking Christ.
post #10 of 64
Now you've upset the geezer.
post #11 of 64
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
Um, I was honestly wondering...


no one else is curious about female squirting?
Ummm...I'm pretty sure that's a No there, guy.
post #12 of 64
laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawlz!

New sig.
post #13 of 64
Am I too old for these boards? I mean, I was "curious" about this stuff when I was 16. Then I had sex and found out about it.
post #14 of 64
Suddenly this makes so much sense-
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
Bad Valentine's Day Stories
...why most of us hate this wretched holiday.
post #15 of 64
fabfunk is a fucking gift to the world. Having a bad day at work? Get in a fight with your significant other? Grades slipping? It's okay, little buckaroo. Just come look at this thread and smile. Breathe a sigh of relief.

At least you're not this walking advertisement for the value of restraining orders.
post #16 of 64
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Originally Posted by devincf
Am I too old for these boards? I mean, I was "curious" about this stuff when I was 16. Then I had sex and found out about it.
But it can't have been good sex. Your girl didn't ejaculate, and you probably didn't even DREAM of using the 4th Dimension to find her, did you?
post #17 of 64
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
Um, I was honestly wondering...


no one else is curious about female squirting?
The sincerity and innocence with which you asked this made me smile a little bit. So cute.
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post #19 of 64
Fuckin' Squirtle - that made me laugh.
post #20 of 64
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
CON'T
Indeed.
post #21 of 64
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Originally Posted by JGButler
Fuckin' Squirtle - that made me laugh.
Same here. If we still had user ratings, Millette would get a five. Fabfunk would find his way into negative stars.
post #22 of 64
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Originally Posted by Matt Goldberg
Fabfunk would find his way into the vaginas of dead porn stars.
Better.
post #23 of 64
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Originally Posted by Dan Whitehead
Fabfunk would find his way into the vaginas of dead porn stars.
He already has, Dan. HE ALREADY HAS.
post #24 of 64
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Originally Posted by Crow
He already has, Dan. HE ALREADY HAS.
Well then one has to wonder how long it is until we see a thread on the social rammifications and potential pleasure to be derived from mung, 'cause after all, aren't we all curious?
post #25 of 64
The call is coming from inside the vagina?
post #26 of 64
This thread is useless without pics.
post #27 of 64
>Um, I was honestly wondering...
no one else is curious about female squirting?

That isn't nearly as funny until you see the avatar.
post #28 of 64
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...useless without pics
Well, brad already posted one, but here's another:

Squirtle
post #29 of 64
the myth is REAL!
post #30 of 64
If what my girlfriend squirts on me is urine, why doesn't it taste like urine?
post #31 of 64
I should hire Dan to redo all my posts. They would be ten times better.
post #32 of 64
I've seen female ejaculation first hand. It exists.


Oh you wanted some kind of medical evidence??

"The medical community was finally awakened in 1980 when Perry and Whipple showed a film of a female ejaculating to the SSSS (Society for the Scientific Study of Sex). Martin Weisberg, M.D., a gynecologist at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia responded, "Bull ... I spend half my waking hours examining, cutting apart, putting together, removing, or rearranging female reproductive organs. There is no female prostrate, and women don't ejaculate."

Yet after seeing the film and witnessing the event in person he changed his tune: "The vulva and vagina were normal with no abnormal masses or spots. The urethra was normal. Everything was normal. She then had her partner stimulate her by inserting two fingers into the vagina and stroking along the urethra lengthwise. To our amazement, the area began to swell. It eventually became a firm one by two cm oval area distinctly different from the rest of the vagina. In a few moments the subject seemed to perform a Valsalva maneuver (bearing down as if starting to defecate) and seconds later several cc's of milky fluid shot out the urethra. The material analysis described in the paper (Perry & Whipple's) is correct, its composition was closest to prostatic fluid".
post #33 of 64
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
Can we please stop titling these fucking sex threads with explicit descriptions of bodily functions? Jesus fucking Christ.
I don't really care about any or all of this, but I thought CHUD was Rated R?

*waits for some sort of quip*
post #34 of 64
...for RETARDED! HA HA HA!
post #35 of 64
I had a shot of milky fluid once, but I thought it was Tequila Rose.

It was really prostatic fluid?
post #36 of 64
Get some help, fabfunk. It's going to break off.
post #37 of 64
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
...for RETARDED! HA HA HA!
YES! That's exactly the joke I was expecting. I was tempted to say it myself, but I was hoping someone would pull through with it. Thanks, sweetie.
post #38 of 64
And I JUST made it UP!

Jesus Christ, I'm so clever.
post #39 of 64
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2) Do females ejaculate?

No, females do not ejaculate, males do.

3) What is it, then, and where does it come from?

Any copious fluid expelled by a female during sex, spontaneous or not, comes from the bladder. This much HAS been proven. And if it comes from the bladder, it is urine, this is the bladder's only function. It should have less concentrated levels of urine components than say, your morning urine does, but that's all.
I hate to chime in on this, really...

Like 10 years ago, at the tender age of 15 or so, a friend had a video of a girl masturbating. Boring stuff, right? Well, all of a sudden white shit starts spewing out of her as she orgasms. I was amazed and repulsed at the same time. It was gag-worthy, much like Divine choking on dog shit for the first time. It was thick and it was white. I haven't seen anything like it since. Any "squirting" I've witnessed in this or that video has been as described above. I have no clue WTF was going on in that video. Stunt spunk? No way - it was all done in one take.
post #40 of 64
Good special effects budget.
post #41 of 64
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
And I JUST made it UP!

Jesus Christ, I'm so clever.
Hey, now, let's not be sarcastic. You know it wasn't clever. Hell, it WAS the first thing I thought someone was going to say.
post #42 of 64
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Originally Posted by whiskaz
I hate to chime in on this, really...

Like 10 years ago, at the tender age of 15 or so, a friend had a video of a girl masturbating. Boring stuff, right? Well, all of a sudden white shit starts spewing out of her as she orgasms. I was amazed and repulsed at the same time. It was gag-worthy, much like Divine choking on dog shit for the first time. It was thick and it was white. I haven't seen anything like it since. Any "squirting" I've witnessed in this or that video has been as described above. I have no clue WTF was going on in that video. Stunt spunk? No way - it was all done in one take.
YES. I've seen this too. On more than one video. Most of the squirt porn vids you might see, it does look like the girls are just peeing and the piss is so clear you might not realize it. But in a handful of vids I have seen it was opaque white and it was thick...no way in hell it could be urine in any form. Whatever else the other girls are doing, THESE girls weren't just wizzing all over the place.
post #43 of 64
Sigh.
post #44 of 64
Brilliant.
post #45 of 64
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Originally Posted by JGButler
Sigh.
You got shot in the eye didn't you?
post #46 of 64
Oh shit for some reason I'm in stitches over "LE MONDE DES POKEMONS!"

Edit: VV fucking yes, Cytherea is the shit.
post #47 of 64
Wanna know if squirting is real? Just watch something with Cytherea in it, preferably Cytherea is Squirtwoman. There are many long takes, with no cuts where she shoots clear liquid across the room. I don't think she can hold a bunch of water shot up there that long and then just shoot it out whenever, but I'm no doctor.

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I don't care what it is, piss or no, I still think it's hot.
post #48 of 64
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Originally Posted by Mad Man Mundt
If what my girlfriend squirts on me is urine, why doesn't it taste like urine?

How often have you tasted urine exactly?
post #49 of 64
Look, urine tastes salty....EVERYONE fucking KNOWS IT!!!

It's like common sense...or something you learned in grade school.
post #50 of 64
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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog
How often have you tasted urine exactly?

damnation
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