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post #1 of 72
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The announcement of a new 13th, one that will go back to the series' roots, made me anxious to watch the third entry of the series last night. It's has always been my fave of the entire series. It still creeps the fuck out of me, particularly those flashbacks of Chris running away from an unmasked Jason in the woods, and the final scene of Jason looking out the window and running toward the lake (even if it was her imagination).

What the film succeeds in is creating the feeling of loneliness and unbridled atmosphere. Once Chris' friends are offed, she's all alone on the camp ground, with gusting winds, dimmed lights, and a body count brought back from hiding. The dude who plays Jason doesn't hold back. The history between him and Chris only adds to the tension, and he makes sure that she's aware of just who it is under that hockey mask.
post #2 of 72
Sorry, but part 4 has the key ingredient for greatness:

Corey Feldman
post #3 of 72
I always enjoyed this film, if only for the 3D action.

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Originally Posted by IndianSummerSky
It still creeps the fuck out of me, particularly those flashbacks of Chris running away from an unmasked Jason in the woods...
The scene works surprisingly well, an unmasked Jason, or the sack Jason works so much better than that hockey non-sense. Staying with the hockey mask was a bad move. The sack on his head was always much more frightening and while the hockey mask worked within this context of the film, it just became stupid over time...
post #4 of 72
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Originally Posted by futtbuck
Sorry, but part 4 has the key ingredient for greatness:

Corey Feldman
When Corey Feldman is the best thing you can say about a film, or the one thing you remember the most, the blood is already written on the wall.
post #5 of 72


As you can clearly see, this is actually the reason cinema was invented. It doesn't get much better than that.
post #6 of 72
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Originally Posted by Dan Whitehead


As you can clearly see, this is actually the reason cinema was invented.
I assumed cinema was invented to score chicks and free booze.
post #7 of 72
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Originally Posted by Dan Whitehead


As you can clearly see, this is actually the reason cinema was invented. It doesn't get much better than that.
And an obvious inspiration for Mini-Me.
post #8 of 72
The Final Chapter is the best in my book, if only because of my first-viewing memories. I was young, around 7 and was across the street at a (girl) friend's house - she had an older sister, in here mid-teens and there was a pretty decent thunderstorm going on outside. I went home scared out of my wits and saw Mr. Vorhees looming in the shadows for a few days after. I miss when nightmares came as a result of watching scary movies. Now they come as a result of work or kids or stupid real-life crap.

Part 3 is my second fav for nearly all of the reasons originally stated by IndianSummerSky. That flashback of her being chased by an unmasked-Jason always creeped me out.

Because of my early exposure to the Friday films and how much they skeered a young me, they still give me the chills when I sit down to watch 'em - which is cool
post #9 of 72
Final Chapter was great, for the vintage stag film scene alone.
post #10 of 72
I'll throw my obligatory vote for JASON LIVES in.
post #11 of 72
When it comes to favorites, it's gotta be Jason Goes to Manhattan. The fact the girl runs to the loudest room on the ship... makes me chuckle everytime.

And lets not get started on once they get to the city itself...
post #12 of 72
It's been forever since I've seen Part 3. Who was Chris and what was her history with Jason?
post #13 of 72
My fave has always been part 2. Sack head elephamt man Jason was always my favorite. He ran, grunted, fucked up (falling on his ass when a chair he was standing on collapsed), and wasn't an indestructable zombie. Plus, I love Amy Steel. And that chick who went skinnydipping was hot. And they killed a guy in a wheelchair. And he shiskabobbed two counselors fucking. The Friday series has honestly been my favorite series of movies ever, and 2 always stood out on top.
As far as 3, I love that one also. The scene where he harpoons that woman in the eye right after obtaining the hocky mask, then turns towards the house like "whatever" has always been one of my favorite scenes in that one. The bikers crack me up. Luckily here in Austin at the Alamo Drafthouse, they always show it in 3-D at least once a year. So I get to watch an eyeball popping out of the screen on a semi annual basis.
post #14 of 72
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Originally Posted by Thrill Kill
The scene works surprisingly well, an unmasked Jason, or the sack Jason works so much better than that hockey non-sense. Staying with the hockey mask was a bad move. The sack on his head was always much more frightening and while the hockey mask worked within this context of the film, it just became stupid over time...
The sack getup was too much like The Town That Dreaded Sundown for me. Jason is better off with the goalie mask, it gives him a more distinctive look than a sack.

I liked FTT3D almost as much as the 4th one, but I prefered TFC over all of them. Good cast, good writing, and the best effects of the entire series. The main standout scene from TFC for me was Jason's death. Sliding down the machete face first was a beautiful effect, and Savini created Jason, so it was only fitting that he destroyed him as well. Too bad they robbed him of that.

It's just silly that Jason wore a mask to begin with, it's not as if the boy's ever gonna get fingered in a lineup.
post #15 of 72
I've got lots of love for Part 3 as well, damned it I know exactly why. Shelley is the character that stands out for me - poor, fat, pathetic Shelley. Yet he gives Jason the mask (well, Jason takes it from his at any rate). Good stupid fun all the way through.

For overall greatness, though, my vote goest to Final Chapter. That film takes all the successful ingrediants of the first three entries (T&A and carnage) and doubles the recipe.

How can you not love the Crispin Glover bottle opener death? Or the roadside hippie gored while eating a bananna? Or the legendary killing of Jason (TV to the head, machete to the eye)? Genius.
post #16 of 72
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All of this talk about THE FINAL CHAPTER made me put that one in my player tonight. It's probably the one film in the series that gets the least amount of airings on cable TV. My guess is the nudity level is too much for the censors to play around with. I dunno. It's one of the stronger films in the series, and the gore is at its best. But I just don't feel the same weariness and terror that the third one so deftly creates. Plus the cast in the third is tough to beat when you're talking socially inept, dysfunctional, and sexually frustrated.
post #17 of 72
So am I the only one here who's old enough to have actually seen it as Friday the 13th 3D, in a theater? Probably. Fuck ya all.
post #18 of 72
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Originally Posted by Nigel St. Buggering
So am I the only one here who's old enough to have actually seen it as Friday the 13th 3D, in a theater? Probably. Fuck ya all.
To be fair, I was gonna refer to the film as such, but since I haven't experienced the film in true 3-D, it just wouldn't be accurate.

I am old enough to have seen FREDDY'S DEAD in 3-D in a theater. I gave away my 3-D glasses to someone on the school bus. I wonder how much those are worth today?
post #19 of 72
I'm gonna put the brakes on the thread and say what a hunk of shit Part 3 is, sure, it's got some great stuff, but the fucked up continuity really hurts this film, as bad as this film is, it really does hurt it.

We are suppose to believe that the events in Part 2 happened just hours before. Even though Jason got a machete in the shoulder, aged about ten years, gained about thirty pounds and grew about 5 inches. He's a shrimpy, bumbling little one-eyed fuck in Part 2 and suddenly for no reason other than lousy fucking writing he's a hockey-mask wearing old man zombie.

Then when Chris is describing her night in the woods she remembers a Jason from Part 3, muscular, old Jason, not the gunny-sacked, pip-squeek psycho. The fuck?

The stupid thing is all this film needed was a "One year Later" superimposed after the opening recap. Thats all and the film would not be the worst one of the franchise, yes, even worse than part 5.


I'll stick with 2,4, 6.
post #20 of 72
I actually agree with you, it's a thoroughly pointless entry. And when you're discussing Friday the 13th, a pointless entry has to be really pointless. And this is coming from the guy who paid to see it in a theater.
post #21 of 72
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Originally Posted by Nigel St. Buggering
So am I the only one here who's old enough to have actually seen it as Friday the 13th 3D, in a theater? Probably. Fuck ya all.
I saw 1-4 when they were first released at the theater. I had to cut off the love supply after TFC though, since it should've ended there, and couldn't possibly get any better than TFC, IMO.
post #22 of 72
Don't worry, it didn't.
post #23 of 72
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I don't give a fuck about continuity. I know I don't watch these films in order, and when it comes to the horror genre, continuity means very little to me.

The series' biggest continuity snafu occurred before Part 3, anyway. The Jason we see in Part 1 resembles a deformed child. Then in Part 2, when he kills Alice in her home, and which takes place about a mere month later from the events in the original film, he's suddenly tall, overbearing, and physically capable.
post #24 of 72
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Originally Posted by General Zod
The stupid thing is all this film needed was a "One year Later" superimposed after the opening recap. Thats all and the film would not be the worst one of the franchise, yes, even worse than part 5.
Were you lucky enough to have skipped Jason Takes Manhattan?
post #25 of 72
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Originally Posted by IndianSummerSky
I don't give a fuck about continuity. I know I don't watch these films in order, and when it comes to the horror genre, continuity means very little to me.

The series' biggest continuity snafu occurred before Part 3, anyway. The Jason we see in Part 1 resembles a deformed child. Then in Part 2, when he kills Alice in her home, and which takes place about a mere month later from the events in the original film, he's suddenly tall, overbearing, and physically capable.
That's a dream. Jason drowned years before Part 1 begins.
post #26 of 72
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Originally Posted by devincf
That's a dream. Jason drowned years before Part 1 begins.
I'm amazed how many people don't see that.
post #27 of 72
Pesky side effects from drowning:
1)Lack of oxygen
2)Inhalation of water to the lungs
3)Death
Jason didn't make his official entrance until Part 2, and his undead origins are never explained within the course of the film.
Even though the series has never been big on continuity, it's always been obvious that the ending of the original was a dream sequence.
post #28 of 72
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Originally Posted by General Zod
I'm gonna put the brakes on the thread and say what a hunk of shit Part 3 is, sure, it's got some great stuff, but the fucked up continuity really hurts this film, as bad as this film is, it really does hurt it.
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You have to forgive Ft13 for it's continuity gaffes or you'll simply go mad.

Part 3 is a sentimental favorite even if it's not one of the better sequels. But I agree that bizarre ending is the best part.
If anyone's interested in my further thoughts on this rich subject-
http://chud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64465
post #29 of 72
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It's crossed my mind about that final sequence in Part 1 being a dream, but I was never entirely sure. Alice asks those police officials about the remains of the boy's body in the lake where they saved her, so the film's vagueness makes it sound like Jason's physicality was very similar to that of the boy in the hazy image projected at the end of the film.

Even so, like I said before, the continuity in these films is a moot issue for me.

EDIT: I put in JASON LIVES in my player last night, too. For pure black comedy, it's the best of the series.
post #30 of 72
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Originally Posted by General Zod
Then when Chris is describing her night in the woods she remembers a Jason from Part 3, muscular, old Jason, not the gunny-sacked, pip-squeek psycho. The fuck?

The stupid thing is all this film needed was a "One year Later" superimposed after the opening recap. Thats all and the film would not be the worst one of the franchise, yes, even worse than part 5.


I'll stick with 2,4, 6.
That always drove me crazy too. Other than a caption, they could have at least put different clothes on Jason in the flashback, other than the ones he put on THAT SAME DAY. When you consider that parts 2 and 3 were made by the same director within a year or so of each other, the mind boggles.

Incidentally, Part 8 and Jason X are the most insultingly bad entries in the series. Say what you will about part 5, but it had Tiffany Helm and Debbie Sue Voorhees(!).
post #31 of 72
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Originally Posted by Nigel St. Buggering
So am I the only one here who's old enough to have actually seen it as Friday the 13th 3D, in a theater? Probably. Fuck ya all.
No you're not. Hell, I saw the original in theaters.
post #32 of 72
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Originally Posted by Nigel St. Buggering
So am I the only one here who's old enough to have actually seen it as Friday the 13th 3D, in a theater? Probably. Fuck ya all.
Nope. I saw it in the theatre! I seem to remember ducking at the snake in the beginning.
post #33 of 72
I still dig the opening music, disco horror rules.
post #34 of 72
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Originally Posted by Nigel St. Buggering
I actually agree with you, it's a thoroughly pointless entry. And when you're discussing Friday the 13th, a pointless entry has to be really pointless. And this is coming from the guy who paid to see it in a theater.
I saw Part 4 at the drive-in. It was perfect; crappy sound, grainy picture, weather was lousy, great time. My oldest brother took me, only worthwhile thing he ever did.
post #35 of 72
I viewed most of these films out of order throughout my childhood. It would probably be really worthwhile for me to make a straight outright viewing of these to get things in order in my mind. I'm thinking I enjoyed the 3rd film of the series the most.
post #36 of 72
I'm jumping in with Fett...Jason Lives is one of my favorites, followed by Final Chapter, and yes, I'll say it...Jason Goes To Hell.

One of the most horrifying and hilarious scenes to me is in JL when he smashes the girl's face into the door in the RV, and you actually see her facial characteristics embedded in the door as she screams. One of the most cringe-worthy moments is (I think) from Final Chapter, where Jason has nailed a guy to the doorway to stop the girl from escaping, and after she does get out of the house, Jason goes through said doorway and just yanks the guy off the nails with a hideous sounding "scrutch" from the guy's flesh.

And I think I like JGTH just because of all the other horror movie references and the inclusion of Erin Gray, and I actually enjoyed how the FBI hunted him down and just completely annihilated him. I always wondered why they never did that before, if he's continually killed that many people movie after movie.
post #37 of 72
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Originally Posted by Dalyn
My fave has always been part 2. Sack head elephamt man Jason was always my favorite. He ran, grunted, fucked up (falling on his ass when a chair he was standing on collapsed), and wasn't an indestructable zombie. Plus, I love Amy Steel. And that chick who went skinnydipping was hot. And they killed a guy in a wheelchair. And he shiskabobbed two counselors fucking. The Friday series has honestly been my favorite series of movies ever, and 2 always stood out on top.
As far as 3, I love that one also. The scene where he harpoons that woman in the eye right after obtaining the hocky mask, then turns towards the house like "whatever" has always been one of my favorite scenes in that one. The bikers crack me up. Luckily here in Austin at the Alamo Drafthouse, they always show it in 3-D at least once a year. So I get to watch an eyeball popping out of the screen on a semi annual basis.


Yeah I would say, that part 2 was my favorite.

And I ......guess part 4 would be in second place, because I really thought that was the final Jason movie, so I was anticipating How he was going to finally get killed off.
post #38 of 72
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Originally Posted by BobClark
You have to forgive Ft13 for it's continuity gaffes or you'll simply go mad.
Even so, we could really use some kind of Crisis on Infinite Camp Crystal Lakes to sort the whole mess out. Worlds will live! Worlds will die!
post #39 of 72
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Originally Posted by devincf
That's a dream. Jason drowned years before Part 1 begins.
Regardless, he still went from being a kid to a grown up after he was already dead. Not that anything in Friday the 13th makes sense, but aging undead has always been the most puzzling.
post #40 of 72
I think the idea in Part 2 is that he didn't drown after all. He's not really supposed to be undead. Until that business in Part 6 with the lightning bolt, anyway.
post #41 of 72
I have the novelizations of a couple of the F13 movies and in one....I THINK it's the one for Jason Lives, they go into a little backstory on Jason and it turns out that he didn't die, but somehow made it to the other side of the lake where he became lost in the woods and ended up fending for himself for years, living on the animals and vegetation in the forest. He lived in relative peace until the night his mother was killed and he saw it, thus beginning his reign of terror. It's also the one that introduces Jason's dad who is the one that paid for the upkeep on his grave so it would have had to be Jason Lives.
post #42 of 72
There were novelizations of Friday the 13th movies? Those must have been some short-ass books. That's just one of the weirdest things I've heard in a while.
post #43 of 72
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Originally Posted by Beautiful Nightmare
I have the novelizations of a couple of the F13 movies and in one....I THINK it's the one for Jason Lives, they go into a little backstory on Jason and it turns out that he didn't die, but somehow made it to the other side of the lake where he became lost in the woods and ended up fending for himself for years, living on the animals and vegetation in the forest. He lived in relative peace until the night his mother was killed and he saw it, thus beginning his reign of terror. It's also the one that introduces Jason's dad who is the one that paid for the upkeep on his grave so it would have had to be Jason Lives.
In Part 2 the camp counselor pretty much says the same thing (with the exception of the bit about Jason's dad, of course) when he's trying to scare the kids around the campfire. From watching only Part 1, you'd be led to believe that he died of the drowning. Even in JASON TAKES MANHATTAN, the Jason drowning because he didn't know how to swim theme plays an integral plot point in the film (whatever plot these films can muster up, that is).

Speaking of JASON TAKES MANHATTAN, I had to put that one in my player last night (I pretty much watched the entire series in a few nights without having any intention to do so...still a fun series to wade through). What's upsetting is that it had the potential to be the best of the series by far, and it's all thrown away by the confines of a boring ship (and I'm aware that budget constraints were the reason the majority of the film takes place on the ship, but then why use such a misleading title?). Once they reach Manhattan, the menace isn't what it could be--too much time spent in alley ways, subways, and sewers. I wanted to see a genuine Jason rampage on Manhattan. Also, Jason's ability to appear and disappear while tracking distance in the wink of an eye is just too unbelievably hokey for any ounce of tension to creep through. I mean, I know the previous films weren't exactly realistic in how Jason was always able to reach his victims with just simple walking, but this film takes it to an entirely new level when he's appearing in FRONT of his victims with no consideration of time and space whatsoever.
post #44 of 72
Yeah, I'd have to say TFC is my fave of the bunch too.

Part 3, 6, and part 7 (believe it or not) tie for a close second. I always thought the whole telekinesis thing was cool in TNB was cool, especially when Tina(?) used the tree branches to tie him up, or the light cord to hang his ass and drop him through the stairs (unintentionally, IIRC). Fun stuff.

F v. J was alright too.

Speaking of Tina, she turned into quite the MILF.

http://www.larparklincoln.com/photos.htm
post #45 of 72
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Originally Posted by Smitty
Yeah, I'd have to say TFC is my fave of the bunch too.

Part 3, 6, and part 7 (believe it or not) tie for a close second. I always thought the whole telekinesis thing was cool in TNB was cool, especially when Tina(?) used the tree branches to tie him up, or the light cord to hang his ass and drop him through the stairs (unintentionally, IIRC). Fun stuff.

F v. J was alright too.

Speaking of Tina, she turned into quite the MILF.

http://www.larparklincoln.com/photos.htm
Yeah, I would add part 7 along with part 2 as my favorites. ( changing my mind on part 4 )
post #46 of 72
Saw it in the theater. Was one of 3 white people in the theater. Best theater experience ever.
post #47 of 72
I just purchased the Friday the 13th boxed set (nostalgia running rampant as I have distinct memories of sneaking downstairs in the middle of the night as a little kid to watch some of these movies on HBO) and have been running a quasi-Jason film festival. Suprisingly, I realized that I have never seen several of these movies.. mostly the early ones. That being said, I have a question about Part Two (and it seems lame to start a new thread) that you guys might be able to answer. Namely, what was up with the ending of Part Two? In the shack, Ginny (sp?) machetes Jason and then flees back to the cabin with her boyfriend. The two of them then barricade themselves in her cabin. A meeting with Muffin then occurs. Suddenly, Jason leaps through the window and grabs Ginny. Now, I'm fine up to this point. However, the next time we see Ginny she's being put in an ambulance. What the hell? Did I miss something? How did she escape from Jason's cruel embrace? Where's Jason? Where's the boyfriend? I know these movies have never been big on continuity, but this seems a little ridiculous. Please, my faith in poorly made slasher films rests in your knowledgeable hands.

Oh yeah, as to novelizations, I remember being in, like, third grade and Part VII came out. My best friend, who was also a horror nut, had a book of, maybe, 200 pages that was the complete novelization for every movie up to that point. So, yeah, obviously we're not talking about a lot of in depth literary work here.
post #48 of 72
Part 3 has some of the most beautiful girls of the entire series, catherine parks, dana kimmell, and tracie savage, part 2 as well has the remarkable kirsten baker, amy steel, and lauren-marie taylor.

To answer the infamous "where's paul question", there really is no definite answer, years ago it was said that the actor john furey, walked off the set on the last day, but it was later debunked by the actor himself.

I think the beginning of part 3 is how it really happened, the ending of part 2 was a dream, and what really happened is how part 3 began with the two of them walking away. At the very end of part 2 when ginny is saying "where's paul?" he was probably talking to the police while she was being put into the ambulance, but this conflicts with the news report tha edna is watching at the store where the reporter says that ginny was the only survivor. I personally think that he survived, but until we get some type of official confirmation, we can only speculate.
post #49 of 72
I recently purchased the huge-ass book "Crystal Lake Memories: The Entire History of Friday the 13th" and according to the director of part 2 and the actor who played Paul-Paul does die in the movie. The editing of the movie didn't make it clear. So says the director. Jason Lives, to me, is the best Friday the 13th. That is also the movie that had me rooting for Jason for the first time. Part 3 would be my second choice.
post #50 of 72
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Originally Posted by Nigel St. Buggering
There were novelizations of Friday the 13th movies? Those must have been some short-ass books. That's just one of the weirdest things I've heard in a while.
I discovered my novelization of HALLOWEEN II during a spring cleaning last year.
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