The Best of BOND; Let's get this over with - Page 232

History has shown that the fourth Bond film is always the biggest film of an actor's tenure, for better or worse. I really enjoy THUNDERBALL and MOONRAKER a lot. At some point Craig's Bond needs to lead a team of commandos, whether it's frogmen or space marines. It's been too long since we had stuntmen jump off trampolines.

Check my list of Bond 24 suggestions from a few pages back. I detailed several scenarios that would see 007 working alongside allies.

http://www.chud.com/community/t/87739/the-best-of-bond-lets-get-this-over-with/11050#post_3428492

As long as Bond is complicated and not exactly heroic, I'm sure I'll like it. They're on a roll now.

 

How highly contested will the villain role be? I kind of want to see him go up against a mastermind type old guy, see how they handle that shit with Craig. Summon Wener Herzog!

Patrick Stewart as Blofeld just popped into my head and won't leave.

 

He's seen everything.

Would have preferred Stewart as M.

Oh man, Stewart as M would have been fantastic.

 

He'd be fantastic, but I'm guessing we'll probably have Fiennes in place as long as Craig's there, at least.

In my Bond fantasy timeline, Stewart would have been M for Jason Isaacs's tenure in the 90s.

 

Craig has a face born to command commandos.  I'm all for it as long as they keep the great balance between gritty/down to earth and larger than life that the Craig era is all about.  Take those Quantum bastards out for good.

Quantum would need a major overhaul to be brought back. Stock market manipulation and real estate monopolies don't exactly invoke a balance between grounded and larger than life. SKYFALL was spectacular, but the villains' plots have gotten smaller with each film. Craig should get to save the world once before he's 50.

Well, that's the thing.  Quantum has been raising ungodly amounts of money.  Let's see them do something ungodly with it.  I figured everything we've seen them doing financially was a means to some terrible end.  It's time for the Craig-Bond series to scare us with some serious doomsday shit.

 Or the people funding Quantum are dupes for some madman with an evil plan.

I think Quantum rigging the system and consolidating wealth (more so than already is the case) is nefarious enough. Why would Quantum benefit from trying to destroy the world? These are people who want to live lives of comfort and luxury. They're crooked politicians and bankers, not mad men.

 

They wouldn't.  They'll blackmail the world, just like in Thunderball.

Whoa! Check out these really cool Bond commemorative posters! http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/artists-design-bond-poster-day-23-films-article-1.1241514








MGM got angry and made the artists take down the original site which had all 23, but you could google around and find the rest pretty easily. This is some very cool work. Some of the best Bond posters I've ever seen. The Skyfall poster is actually my favorite Skyfall poster I've yet seen, from the official marketing campaign or as fan art.




Edited by Dr Harford - 1/31/13 at 4:57pm

Love the Casino Royale one, although the chair is gilding the lily a bit.

 

@Dr H.  Thanks for asking about my read of Moonraker!  Unfortunately, I've had a terribly busy time at work and haven't been able to read much.  I left it just as Bond was assigned to go check out the murders at the Moonraker facility.  I'm about a third into the book.  I've enjoyed it quite a bit so far.

I agree about the chair, but it's still a pretty cool series of posters. Even Die Another Day gets a stylish design:



You picked a good place to stop in the book, hope you find the time to finish it at some point! Glad you liked what you read, that opening third is perhaps my favorite part of the book anyway, though the rest is excellent as well.

 

Yeah, the day-to-day of Bond was great.  And I enjoyed the whole scene at the club, even though I had no idea what the hell was going on during the card game.

 

Agreed on the super classy designs for the posters as well, I just would've liked the CR poster sans chair.  You'd almost prefer Vesper's knot or something like that.

Edited by Spook - 2/1/13 at 5:19pm

 

They wouldn't, my idea is that they only think that's what Quantum is about, when in fact it's a crazy man using them for his own nefarious ends.

Casino Royale script pokes fun of Bond telling everyone his name, also debunks code name theory even more.

 

Thank god that exchange was cut.

Solid idea. I could see something like a larger scale version of the Bolivia Project being suitably nefarious for Quantum's higher ups.

The last two are my favorites.

I really want that Skyfall poster.

This podcast is from a few months back, but I just got around to listening to it yesterday. For anyone who may be interested, Mark Steyn discusses John Barry and Bond music with David Arnold, and lyricists Don Black and Tim Rice (Rice penned "All Time High", which I somehow didn't know):

 

http://www.steynonline.com/4199/on-the-town

 

Some neat tidbits of trivia in there. Another thing I didn't know is that Shirley Bassey once recorded an entire album of Bond theme songs, but actually went to court to have the CDs recalled. Guess she wasn't happy with it. The one surviving track is her version of "You Only Live Twice", which made it onto one of her more recent albums. It... isn't good. So maybe Dame Shirley was right to pull the others from the market.

The cover OK magazine says that Robert Patterson is going to be the next James Bond. I doubt that its true since that magazine is mindless fluff, but if its true, I will lead the revolution!

I guess OK Magazine's sales must be down or something. It's always embarrassing when websites and magazines make up crazy rumors to boost their readership.

If there was a time for Chris Nolan to make a Bond film, and the subject of Quantum had to be addressed, we have a large time gap to play with for non linear story telling. They could play up a figure head for Quantum for Bond to face, but ultimately it ties back to what M said, about the shadows, just because Bond kills a figure head, the organization doesn't die... ...a lot lot like Al-Queda.

It won't happen because Daniel Craig's last Bond film came in at number 8 on the list of the highest grossing movies of all time, and the best a movie starring Robert Patterson ranks is 34th.

Actually, I've just learned that Skyfall is now ranked as the 007th highest grossing movie of all time, after having overtaken the box office of Dark Knight Rises!

Congrats to Bond, Eon and Daniel Craig on this amazing achievement.

 

It makes you wonder how the hell they're going to top this with the next one, doesn't it?

Yes, it is going to be interesting now that Bond 24 is officially a 'big deal'.

Yes it does!

It's already been confirmed that Dennis Gassner will be serving as production designer for Bond 24, as I figured EON made him the new regular after Peter Lamont's retirement.

I just hope we get it in 2014. I hate these long waits between the films!

 

I'd rather four years and another Skyfall than two years and another Quantum of Solace.

The two year gap wasn't the reason QOS turned out the way it did, blame Forster for that.

*double post*

Worst Bond FIlm: Skyfall

 

I really don't get the lover for this crappy film. First off, the music is terrible and throws everything off. Second, I love the director's other films, and while the script wasn't the greatest, I do blame him for the back to the over-the-top Bond action. I know it's a movie. I know the Casino Royal action wasn't perfectly grounded in reality, but it was close. Skyfall seemed to backslide into the Bronsan film's leftover set pieces, especially the two train sequences. Third, all the cute little jokes and nods to past films were terrible. I wish I could remember them for examples, but I really can't recall much about the film. 

Edited by edgardevice - 2/4/13 at 7:17pm

 

lolwut? 

 

Especially the bolded parts. 

 

And especially the underlined, bolded and italicized part.  Do you mean Brosnan?

I have no clue why some things were bold or underlined. The only thing I did text-wise was Italicize the titles. And yes I meant Bronsan era. 

 

EDIT: Strange, even when I edited Bronsan's name in, nothing shows up as bold or underlined. 

Also, the strike.

 

And frankly, you never will get me with this approach.  I prefer flowers.

 

 

 

 

Newman's score track for the Shanghai elevator/office building.  Please explain, in the name of Lois Maxwell's sparkling clean panties, how this magnificent Herrmannesque ninja badassery "throws everything off"?  What would you do differently?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We know, but we love you for trying.

Much as I disliked Quantum of Solace, it would be neat for the "organization" to get some kind of nod in the next film. QoS didn't exactly plant the seeds for it to be a fun, SPECTRE-esque entity, but some acknowledgement of Quantum would be a nice throwback to the random threads of continuity the Connery films maintained.

 

Just idea-bursting here, but Quantum could get obliterated by a "rival" shadowy and diabolical organization. I kind of like the notion of Daniel Craig's Bond thinking he's got Quantum cornered by "cleaning up" the remaining operatives early in Bond 24, only to find that something much more sinister wants Quantum out of the way.

If I had to throw in a nod I'd make the villain a former Quantum operative or at least someone who was high up that jumped ship after the Bolivian scheme (thanks to Greene and Yusef spilling their guts about their employers). Quantum has dissolved by Bond 24 and this villain is fully aware of 007 so that when they meet for the first time Bond has no idea that this former operative is running the latest scheme, "hidden in the shadows". Build up that suspense with Bond not realizing what he's really up against. Of course I'd avoid the revenge angle, just have the villain note the coincidence of Bond getting that assignment and move on.

I was about to go to sleep and as I was shutting off my Apple TV I notice iTunes has Skyfall available now for $15. So I'm watching that now. Sleep can wait.

 

I'm sorry but you've forced me to use this:

 

You left out this fantastic track:

 

Yes, two trains: the above ground one, and the underground one.

Okay, got me on the trains.  I guess I've used the subway too much.  But I still don't see how this music is "terrible" or "throws everything off".  Most of us liked or loved it, so we'd appreciate something more substantial that an off-the-cuff contrary opinion.  Explain why you think the music doesn't work.