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Jill St. John and Lana Wood are two of my favorite Bond Girls. And they're in the same movie!
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Quite a pair
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Two pairs, really...

Rigg and Green are One and One-A for me.
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Green is my favorite of the modern era.
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Green is my favorite of the modern era.



Probably meant Eva.

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Both his eyes look like that one of Glenn's.

Walking Dead Glenn I mean..
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Nah. Dianna Rigg is still tops.


Riggs is my favorite too. She is beautiful, classy, good in a car chase and she fights a henchmen with a broken bottle.

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Underrated: Britt Ekland

 

I wish her Mary Goodnight had been a recurring character during the Roger Moore run. There was a delightful chemistry and Screwball fun in THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.

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Really? It's been ages since i saw GOLDEN GUN.

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Underrated: Britt Ekland

 

I wish her Mary Goodnight had been a recurring character during the Roger Moore run. There was a delightful chemistry and Screwball fun in THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN.


Britt Ekland's amusing in the film but I thought the dumb blonde act got kind of old.

 

In the books Goodnight is a recurring character -- she appears in OHMSS, YOLT, and Golden Gun, and at least one of the short stories.

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Interesting post by Bond researcher Edward Biddulph about SKYFALL's similarity to a 1936 John Buchan novel:

 

http://jamesbondmemes.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/skyfall-home-alone-or-john-buchan.html

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Anyone here a fan of the sillier side of spy-fi or should I start a thread of it's own because as much as I enjoy the exploits of Mr. Bond, Jo Walker and his compatriots are much more my style. (YOLT is my favorite Bond film and I count the Avengers as one my favorite TV shows ever) P.S. If you think Danger Diabolik is too staid and Moonraker didn’t go far enough you owe it to yourself to track down a copy of Argoman the Superman today, it is glorious.

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I always felt that Ekland came across like a Doctor Who companion.

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Doctor Who companions are usually smarter.

 

She's more like a Matt Helm companion.

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She was more a reoccurring costar than official Bond Girl but I was always partial to Martine Beswick.

Her and Jane Seymour but then again I have always a weird affinty for Moore's first outing, Blaxplotation Bond is just so wrong it's almost right.

I still think Yaphet Koto is the second best Blofield after Savalas.

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No love for FRWL Daniela Bianchi?
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Originally Posted by Malmordo View Post

Interesting post by Bond researcher Edward Biddulph about SKYFALL's similarity to a 1936 John Buchan novel:

http://jamesbondmemes.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/skyfall-home-alone-or-john-buchan.html

I'm almost positive that, in the podcast interview Purvis and Wade did with Empire after SKYFALL came out, they're upfront about having taken the ancestral home idea from Buchan (though I think they said it was from his novel "Greenmantle", which can't be right; I may be misremembering).

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No love for FRWL Daniela Bianchi?

Right after Misses Rigg and Green on my list, actually.

Martine Beswick's a bit of all right, too-- but yeah, I don't primarily think of her as a Bond Girl.
Edited by Slim - 11/17/16 at 7:18pm
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IIRC Purvis & Wade largely left the climax to Logan. I need to relisten to that podcast.
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I'm almost positive that, in the podcast interview Purvis and Wade did with Empire after SKYFALL came out, they're upfront about having taken the ancestral home idea from Buchan (though I think they said it was from his novel "Greenmantle", which can't be right; I may be misremembering).

No, you're not misremembering. I'm looking through the Some Kind of Hero book and Purvis & Wade say basically the same thing there.

 

It's weird, though, because SKYFALL has nothing to do with Greenmantle. Also, P&W claim to have taken the third act of the film from another 1930s novel, Rogue Male by Geoffrey Household. They make no mention of Buchan's The Island of Sheep. I think they may have gotten the two novels confused.

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No, you're not misremembering. I'm looking through the Some Kind of Hero book and Purvis & Wade say basically the same thing there.

It's weird, though, because SKYFALL has nothing to do with Greenmantle. Also, P&W claim to have taken the third act of the film from another 1930s novel, Rogue Male by Geoffrey Household. They make no mention of Buchan's The Island of Sheep. I think they may have gotten the two novels confused.

Yeah, my memory's surprisingly good four years on; I had just gone back to the podcast, and they talk about it pretty early in the running, luckily.

You're right-- Wade must be conflating "Greenmantle" (and also "Rogue Male" I guess) with "The Island of Sheep". I remember it striking me wrong back when I first listened, because the only two Buchan novels I've ever read are "The 39 Steps" and "Greenmantle", and I was pretty sure Greenmantle was the name of the badguy, not a house.

So now, mystery solved. Interesting stuff, anyway.
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I don’t know how many of you have Comcast cable and access to the Impact on Demand channel but if you do and feel up to it I strongly suggest you watch 1986’s Unmasking the Idol, a delirious bit of DTV Spy-fi cheese that even Phil covered in one of his 4 Non Bond Articles right before Skyfall’s release over at BMD I think.

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I recently purchased the novelization of TND. The title page has three additional screenwriters listed (including Nicholas Meyer).

 


Edited by Malmordo - 11/18/16 at 9:16am
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Nicholas Meyer?! The Star Trek II guy?!?

?!?!?!
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I'm betting his draft had a lot more references to Victorian literature in it.
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I don't think Meyer, Petrie or Wilson ever did a page-one rewrite. They were part of a group of screenwriters who were flown to London (at the insistence of Roger Spottiswoode) to develop additional material roundtable-style over a weekend.

 

Feirstein was then tasked with rewriting his own script using the ideas developed from that meeting. This is probably why the script ended up a clusterfuck and pages were still being handed to actors minutes before the scenes were shot.

 

It's all in the Field & Chowdhury Some Kind of Hero book.

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Britt Ekland's amusing in the film but I thought the dumb blonde act got kind of old.

 

In the books Goodnight is a recurring character -- she appears in OHMSS, YOLT, and Golden Gun, and at least one of the short stories.


 I agree about the dumb blonde act. I like my Bond girls to be as resourceful and smart as they're beautiful. Despite her name, Dr Goodhead has all of those traits.

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Holly Goodhead has the best name of all the Bond girls and she is resourceful but my favorite is Melina from FYEO. She is one of the only Bond girls who never needs to be rescued by Bond, Holly might be the only other one now that I think of it. Bond kind of rescues Melina but in that scene they're both in danger so it's no damsel in distress-situation.

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 One of the many great things about Tracy in OHMSS is she is the one that saves Bond and does all the driving in the car chase.

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It's all in the Field & Chowdhury Some Kind of Hero book.

Boy, I was really slow on the uptake after your first reference to this book-- I was just reading the details on Amazon and clearly this something I need to get. I've put it on my Christmas list.
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Boy, I was really slow on the uptake after your first reference to this book-- I was just reading the details on Amazon and clearly this something I need to get. I've put it on my Christmas list.


You won't regret it. It's a terrific reference guide to the series -- packed full of information at 700+ pages.

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Tried to watch Spectre via Amazon Prime the other night. Couldn't do it. I can't think of another movie that's so ....inert. Beautifully shot though. Every scene could be a poster..I especially loved the overhead shot of Bond driving down the road lined with bare trees, with the trees lit up from below, towards Spectre Castle. 

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Not to mention that huge explosion at Spectre Castle later.

 

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Tried to watch Spectre via Amazon Prime the other night. Couldn't do it. I can't think of another movie that's so ....inert. Beautifully shot though. Every scene could be a poster..I especially loved the overhead shot of Bond driving down the road lined with bare trees, with the trees lit up from below, towards Spectre Castle. 

That's one of my favorite shots, too.  SKYFALL set the new standard for how a Bond film should look, and I think - at least on that front - SPECTRE acquits itself well.  Some gorgeous photography in there.

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Maybe Spectre would have worked better as a series of still photos.
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Not to mention that huge explosion at Spectre Castle later.

 

 

No that's Spectre Desert Resort and Casino. I'm talking about Spectre Italian Getaway castle. 

 

By the by, a big part of the inertness of Spectre lies in the plot, or lack thereof. In Thunderball Spectre hijacks two Nukes and demands ransom for example. In Spectre they operate a worldwide Drug, guns and slave network. And their evil plan is to...do more of that. Which Blofeld describes as a "vision". Wut?

 

Also, given that that is their operation, wouldn't Interpol be the appropriate agency to go after them?

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If we're talking Bond women, I have to go with Caroline Bouquet from FYEO as my personal favorite.  Just stunningly, staggeringly beautiful.

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No that's Spectre Desert Resort and Casino. I'm talking about Spectre Italian Getaway castle. 

 

By the by, a big part of the inertness of Spectre lies in the plot, or lack thereof. In Thunderball Spectre hijacks two Nukes and demands ransom for example. In Spectre they operate a worldwide Drug, guns and slave network. And their evil plan is to...do more of that. Which Blofeld describes as a "vision". Wut?

 

Also, given that that is their operation, wouldn't Interpol be the appropriate agency to go after them?


Spectre has a nothing plot, but still has loads upon loads of mindless exposition. And character "drama" that just doesn't add up. That, more than anything, is what makes it a chore. If it was just nonsensical setpieces married with great imagery, we'd have a new You Only Live Twice on our hands, and that would be infinitely preferable to what we got in Spectre.

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I just rolled my eyes at the Meteoroid scene. What was the point of that?

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I just rolled my eyes at the Meteoroid scene. What was the point of that?
The SPECTRE rings are made out of the meteor (never explicitly stated but indicated on Q's computer readout).

It's mostly just a half-baked attempt to channel "classic" Bond villainy, like Dr. No's expensive observation window.
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And I like it!
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I'm think about revisiting OHMSS, a film that has its fans, but I'm not one of them. I've seen it a couple times; I've even read the book. It's just never captured my imagination. It feels like a movie that's trying to simultaneously be a Bond movie and not be a Bond movie, which is kinda what I disliked about Skyfall.
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That's because it's also trying to stick close with the novel, which are nothing like Bond movies. I admire it for going back to basics after the insanity of YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.
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You would!
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Brad's complaint is fair, I think (it's a bit more true of OHMSS than SKYFALL; SKYFALL is much more committed to being untraditional). Strip out the romance from OHMSS and you've got a big, swingin' sixties Bond romp!

But I've come to terms with it over the years. Weirdly schizophrenic or not, it just kinda works.
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OHMSS had to grow on me. But once it did, it moved swiftly up the ranks. Gorgeous movie. Probably the Bond film that feels like it has the largest scale. Looks like a David Lean film at times..
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I just wish OHMSS had a more charismatic actor in the lead. An enthusiastic Connery would have been great, heck I would have liked to see Moore have a crack at it if he were available at the time.
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I said F it and went nuts deep on The James Bond Collection, new 24 film BD version including Spectre. 80 bucks at Walmart, and Amazon too.

 

So, what should I watch first: A View To A Kill, Quantum Of Solace, or The Man With The Golden Gun? I think AVTAK is the only one I've never seen all the way throgh. I'll finally be able to do a proper ranking!

 

Gah, can't believe I own all these boring Roger Moore movies now. Oh well, $3.35 per disc ain't bad.

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I just wish OHMSS had a more charismatic actor in the lead. An enthusiastic Connery would have been great, heck I would have liked to see Moore have a crack at it if he were available at the time.
It should have been Oliver Reed (who was in the running until he got a scar on his face).
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Lazenby grew on me as well. He has a sort of meat headedly impenetrable swagger that makes it interesting to see him show some fear and vulnerability towards the end of the movie.

...and I know I'm probably alone in this opinion but I think he sells one-liners better than any other Bond. "He had lots of guts" makes me laugh harder than any of them and a lot of it's the delivery..
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