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QoS is one of those movies that when I try to defend it, like I did a few months ago, it gets shouted down around these parts. The article articulated what I've been thinking better than I could express.

 

 I maintain that in the moment it was a letdown - we only get one Bond every few years so when it's not an event, it's kinda sad - but in a 25-film series, I'm grateful for the outliers. 

 

For all the talk about SPECTRE trying to mimic the Roger Moore era, there sure was a lot of SPY WHO LOVED ME callbacks in QoS. 

 

Example: In THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, Bond uses the alias Robert Striling. QoS:

 

 

Other stuff - SWLM:

 

 

QoS:

 

 

SWLM:

 

 

QoS:

 

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I like a lot of things about QUANTUM OF SOLACE, but actually watching it is painful.
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Being a big fan of TSWLM....those little homages in Quantum of Solace jumped right out to me the very first time I watched it..
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One thing that the Rowlands essay didn't address was the Mickey Spillane influence. I've mentioned before in this thread that both LTK and QOS seem to be designed more like Mike Hammer adventures than previous Bond films: the violence, sadism, streamlined plots focusing on revenge, the cold-blooded obsessiveness of the hero. Fleming was sometimes referred to as the British Spillane and there's been debate about how much the Hammer series influenced him.

 

Novelist Max Allan Collins posted an interesting review of SPECTRE that touched on Fleming's writing in relation to Spillane:

 

http://www.maxallancollins.com/blog/2015/11/10/james-bond-and-me/


Edited by Malmordo - 4/7/17 at 7:10am
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Still haven't seen that 67 film. Would be more interested in a documentary that covered it.
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Still haven't seen that 67 film.
Oh, you really should. It's dazzling in its insanity.
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Still haven't seen that 67 film. Would be more interested in a documentary that covered it.

There's a book that covers most of the details, The Making of Casino Royale by Michael Richardson.

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Geezus that lawsuit. Why anyone would want to own NSNA is beyond me.
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Still haven't seen that 67 film. Would be more interested in a documentary that covered it.
It's worth a watch. I really dug it the first time I saw it but it seems to get worse each time I catch it. Do really like the idea of the "original Bond" played by Niven though.

Favorite story out of it is that Sellers thought he was in a legit Bond movie and stormed off production when he realized what it really was.
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I find NSNA harmless enough.
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NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is better than THUNDERBALL.

 

Yes, THUNDERBALL looks more glamorous, has better leading ladies, and a better score.  But NSNA has a better Connery performance and a top 5 villain turn from Brandauer.

 

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Still haven't seen that 67 film. Would be more interested in a documentary that covered it.

As a fan of Bond, I think you kind of owe it to yourself to see the movie.  You probably won't like it, but I almost guarantee you won't think your time has been wasted.

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NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN is better than THUNDERBALL.
No. But I can live and let live when it comes to that opinion.
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Fair enough!

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Originally Posted by Malmordo View Post

One thing that the Rowlands essay didn't address was the Mickey Spillane influence. I've mentioned before in this thread that both LTK and QOS seem to be designed more like Mike Hammer adventures than previous Bond films: the violence, sadism, streamlined plots focusing on revenge, the cold-blooded obsessiveness of the hero. Fleming was sometimes referred to as the British Spillane and there's been debate about how much the Hammer series influenced him.

Novelist Max Allan Collins posted an interesting review of SPECTRE that touched on Fleming's writing in relation to Spillane:

http://www.maxallancollins.com/blog/2015/11/10/james-bond-and-me/

Well, shit. Evidently I'm not a James Bond fan because I thought SPECTRE sucked. Thanks Max Allan Colins.

The Spillane echoes in the novels had occurred to me before, although Fleming would seem to have a greater affinity for Chandler, with whom he corresponded, and who reviewed one of the Bonds, I forget which. Anyway, the Spillane thing reminded me of the early US paperback for Casino Royale, very Mike Hammer-esque:



I used to have that paperback but lost it in a move, which kills me. It's worth a few bucks, but even if it weren't it was maybe my favorite piece of Bond ephemera. I get a kick out of how the back cover calls him "Jimmy Bond" for the further benefit of us unsophisticated Yanks.
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 I did watch the ending of the 67 Casino Royale on youtube once. It seemed what a Mel Brooks parody of Bond would be like if Brooks had no talent. 

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The card game Peter Sellers has with Orson Wells isn't bad.

 

But yes Casino 67 is a big mess.

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Wow, I'd never seen that before! You have to wonder if the artist even read the book.

 

Yeah, Collins is generally a little harsh with his opinions. I liked SPECTRE but can understand if others didn't.

 

Thanks for sharing, Slim!

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Phil linked to this review on Twitter:

 

"Anthony Lane's 2015 review of SPECTRE is maybe the best Bond review I've ever read."

 

""...A strange amalgam of the savage and the fantastical: a thug let loose in a daydream.""

 

The Current Cinema

November 16, 2015 Issue

Human Bondage

“Spectre.”

 

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/11/16/human-bondage

 

I like this:

 

"Casting Craig, in “Casino Royale,” was a de-facto proclamation that the officer class need no longer apply for the job. Craig resembles a staff sergeant who’s left the army, nicked and scarred, and found himself frustrated, as veterans often are, by the soft edges and the moral dithering of civilian life. Bond has always boozed, but never has the drink seemed less of a pleasure and more of an urgent fix."

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That's a great review.
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(via Colonel Mortimer)

 

 

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It appears I have a new book to hunt for!  Never knew this existed.

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I have that book.
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So Andy Diggle, author of (the underwhelming) HAMMERHEAD is doing another Bond arc:

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When a counterespionage operation in Rotterdam goes catastrophically wrong, James Bond finds himself in the crosshairs of a plot to smash NATO. Someone is assassinating allied agents, and 007 is the next target in the kill chain. Having kept the peace for decades, the old alliance is collapsing, pitting MI6 against its former ally - the CIA!
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I have low expectations for this since Diggle is handling it.

 

On the other hand FELIX LEITER is great reading. Just finished issue 4 and i can't wait to get the Trade Paperback (when it comes out).

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It appears I have a new book to hunt for!  Never knew this existed.

 

I RAN out to find this book after seeing it in here. There are some howlers.

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Is it better than "My Word Is My Bond," where he mostly talks about his kidney stones and other assorted maladies?
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Is it better than "My Word Is My Bond," where he mostly talks about his kidney stones and other assorted maladies?

 

To be fair, I could write a book about kidney stones.  They do inspire you to use, shall we way, colorful metaphors.

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I often fling my breakfast toast in a rage. But I do my own hair.
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He sounds like an Edwardian Patrick Bateman.

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Hedison and Moore became close friends, and they appeared in two other movies together. I always liked their onscreen chemistry and wish that Hedison had returned to the Bond series prior to Moore's exit.

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Hedison and Moore became close friends, and they appeared in two other movies together. I always liked their onscreen chemistry and wish that Hedison had returned to the Bond series prior to Moore's exit.


Hedison's one of the very best Felix Leiters.  Of course that's a fairly low bar, and he has the advantage of being one of only two actors to play the part more than once, but he has great rapport with both of his Bonds, and he feels like a real guy doing his job and enjoying Bond's company.

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I liked him paired with Moore. He's fine in LTK, but I always found it weird seeing a Leiter that is clearly much older than Bond when they're supposed to be nearly the same age. It's too bad John Terry was given a very thankless cameo as Leiter, which resulted in him hating his experience in TLD.
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Dynamite announced another comic book Bond story:
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But the big news was their new James Bond comic book project, Origin.

This will be the 100% origin story of the secret agent James Bond, officially approved by the Ian Fleming estate.

The creative team have not yet been announced, but Bleeding Cool understands that it is intended to be set in the original James Bond timeline, with his adventures in World War II.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/04/21/official-origin-james-bond-told-comic-book-announced-2017-diamond-summit/
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Is he bitten by a radioactive secret agent?
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It's too bad John Terry was given a very thankless cameo as Leiter, which resulted in him hating his experience in TLD.

Christ, that Felix is the very lowest part of a very good Bond film. Overdubbed and dressed like an 80s tennis coach.
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I think that was his actual voice. You can tell he was hating working on the movie. As Felix, he was probably expecting to go out on location with Dalton or something. Instead, he spent what must have been only two days at Pinewood delivering clunky dialogue.

"What the hell are you trying to do, 007? Start World War THREEEEEE???"
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Saw this shared on Facebook. Would have made an interesting adaptation.



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Saw this shared on Facebook. Would have made an interesting adaptation.



OH!

How fantastic!
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Saw this shared on Facebook. Would have made an interesting adaptation.




Just finished reading this and I wholeheartedly approve of Peter Wyngarde as 007.
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Saw this shared on Facebook. Would have made an interesting adaptation.




I think a movie from this era of Hitchcock would have had slightly bigger names attached, but I really like this poster all the same.

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You could easily have a Hitchcock Bond movie with Connery himself in it, what with him being in Marnie.

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I'm gonna have to look up Peter Wyngarde. I'd also have probably really dug a Hitchcock directed Bond. That seems like a match made in Heaven.


ETA: Ok...I looked him up. Now I get why Stale Elvis approves of that casting so much. I LOL'd..
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He would have killed it with an early Bond. I mean, From Russia With Love is Hitchcock in all but name.

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From Russia with Love or Casino Royale probably woulda been the ones to fit his sensibilities the most. But I'm sure he'd have owned it adapting any of them..
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Yeah, what I meant though is that the movie From Russia With Love is basically a Hitchcock movie as it is.

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I understand Fleming wanted Hitchcock for Thunderball when originally developing the initial script, but Hitchcock had already made North By Northwest and was not interested in doing another spy thriller.
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In a related arena, DePalma would make a great Bond, especially with how well Mission Impossible came out.
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Aw hell, De Palma shoulda done a PSYCHO sequel, though I really like how II turned out. Can't say I cared much for III, despite Perkins really trying hard to make it work as both a spiritual Hitchcock film and 80s slasher.
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Only just saw this article. Oh god I need that book, I also laughed when you said Alan Partridge persona because the whole time I was thinking there needs to be a sitcom about 70's Roger Moore's off-screen antics - greeting fellow actors with awkward gags, getting into uncomfortable racial misunderstandings, throwing breakfast tantrums... Coogan should option the rights to this book asap.
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