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I want it to be about whatever happened immediately after she shot Bond at the beginning of Skyfall. Going into work the next day must've been rough.
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Before. Since the Warren Ellis run.

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Rewatching LIVE AND LET DIE in honor of Sir Rog.  He's got such an assured take on the character right out of the gate.

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Rewatching LIVE AND LET DIE in honor of Sir Rog.  He's got such an assured take on the character right out of the gate.

The scene with M in the kitchen always cracks me up. "Is that all it does?" Moore's Bond is the only one you could believe would have a coffee maker like that one.

 

Another very well-written and heartfelt obituary:

 

http://doubleosection.blogspot.com/2017/05/remembering-roger-moore.html

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I forgot Roger was in ALIAS. It was in Season 2 i believe.

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And I just realized that we'll never have the moment when all the 007 actors come together. Not upsetting, but too bad.
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Not sure about SPECTRE being the last Bond film Roger saw.

 

If only it had been SKYFALL.

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And I just realized that we'll never have the moment when all the 007 actors come together. Not upsetting, but too bad.
Closest you'd ever get before yesterday would have been all of them minus Connery anyway.
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Closest you'd ever get before yesterday would have been all of them minus Connery anyway.

That at least did happen during the big DAD premiere.
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Not sure about SPECTRE being the last Bond film Roger saw.

If only it had been SKYFALL.

Sir Rog enjoyed SPECTRE, because he's that cool.
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I mentioned this in another thread but I watched For Your Eyes Only night before last and I had the strangest feeling while watching it. Not saying I knew he had passed (he was in Switzerland so I don't know what time he passed in relation to our time zone) or was gonna pass. It was just a weird feeling. I was just thinking about "man he's getting up there...the day, sadly is more than likely soon." It was like "I'm gonna watch this and it won't be no time I'll be reading an obit." I just had no idea it'd be the NEXT DAY..
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He was really up there, which is why I feel I shouldn't mourn because of what the guy was able to accomplish all the way up to his passing. Sir Rog truly lived a full life and anyone should look and aspire to.
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He was really up there, which is why I feel I shouldn't mourn because of what the guy was able to accomplish all the way up to his passing. Sir Rog truly lived a full life and anyone should look and aspire to.
Roger Moore and Christopher Lee are two people that I wish I could've met. I bet they could tell some stories. Just like...cup of coffee and listen to them talk type situations. I've told many people that Christopher Lee should be everyone's life role model. Everyone should strive to live such a life as those two..
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I mentioned this in another thread but I watched For Your Eyes Only night before last and I had the strangest feeling while watching it. Not saying I knew he had passed (he was in Switzerland so I don't know what time he passed in relation to our time zone) or was gonna pass. It was just a weird feeling. I was just thinking about "man he's getting up there...the day, sadly is more than likely soon." It was like "I'm gonna watch this and it won't be no time I'll be reading an obit." I just had no idea it'd be the NEXT DAY..


Fraid killed Roger Moore.

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I had a similar thing happen when Walter Matthau died. In the middle of the night around 3:15 while living in Florida and in high school I had awoken pretty suddenly. Wasn't dreaming, or had any premonitions, woke up for school then heard on the news that day he had died in LA at his home, at 12:15 AM.
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"You're not teasing me are you? You really are James Bond?"

 

 

p.s. Keep an eye out for David Hedison.

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The weirdest one I ever had is when I was chatting to someone about books and we were trying to remember if Richard Matheson was still alive or not. I google him to find out and his death had been announced literally a couple of minutes earlier.

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Couple of neat Bond-related things...

 

First, AMC is offering a double feature of The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only at select theaters on May 31 and June 4, with a part of the proceeds going to benefit UNICEF.  Arguably the two best Moore Bonds together on the big screen seems like a great deal.  Here's the list of participating theaters.

 

And today on Amazon, they have the Kindle versions of all the Ian Fleming novels on sale for $1.99 each, or you can get the entire bundle for $25.

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
 

Couple of neat Bond-related things...

 

First, AMC is offering a double feature of The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only at select theaters on May 31 and June 4, with a part of the proceeds going to benefit UNICEF.  Arguably the two best Moore Bonds together on the big screen seems like a great deal.  Here's the list of participating theaters.

 

Dicskon! Thanks for posting this - when it was first announced, no theaters near me were listed (nor was the June 4th date), so I wrote it off. 

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Well I know what I'm doing Wednesday.

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Oh, delightful. It starts at 6pm, the exact same time I get off work.

:'(
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I have a confession. This Eric Serra song always sooths me down.

 

 

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I have a confession. This Eric Serra song always sooths me down.

Me too.

 

I play the GOLDENEYE score quite a bit when I'm writing. For whatever reason it helps me to stay focused.

 

"Whispering Statues" is one of the best tracks from any Bond score, IMO.

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Started on Trigger Mortis. Just going in, I'm very shaky on it being an 'interquel' set after Goldfinger and concerning relitigating the Bond/Pussy romance, which I worry will just be the author patting himself on the back for being born a half-century after Ian Fleming and having accordant views on social justice. We'll see.


Edited by avian - 6/4/17 at 5:00pm
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It's good and you will like it.
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Okay, finished Trigger Mortis. The Pussy Galore stuff is still schlocky and fan-wanky, but at least it's over and done with by the time the main adventure kicks into gear (I had worried that 'Pussy Galore leaves Bond for the latest Bond girl and they run off together' would be the ending, which I think was reported). There's also a bit where he meets an openly gay fellow agent who lectures on MI-6 rules against homosexuality; again, he doesn't stick around long enough to really affect the plot or leave a real impression (at least if he were a major ally like Quarrel or Kerim Bey then it would justify getting to know him), so the overall effect is just distracting. Are we supposed to be assured that Bond is a good guy and not that homophobic? Is it just a friendly reminder that homophobia is bad and gay people are people too? 

 

I kinda think they just should've left well enough alone. Not saying they should've had Bond repeat any of his homophobic attitudes from under Fleming's pen, but... Bond was racist against Koreans in Goldfinger; here many of the villains are Korean, but that's just not brought up, with him just hating the villain for being an evil bastard. No storyline where Bond is a racist, but there's a nice Korean character just to show that Bond is wrong, it's just assumed that the reader knows Koreans are fine and doesn't want to read about Bond's racist attitudes.

 

Aside from all that, which is minor enough to not be all that bad, the storyline is quite fair, with its opening in a Grand Prix assassination attempt, compelling villain's plot, and action sequences. Jason Sin is a minor villain, but valid enough--the first Bond villain to suffer PTSD--and his takedown is quick and ruthless. And Jeopardy Lane is a good Bond girl. A normalish person, but still helpful and competent, and Bond getting the girl (for a while) isn't overthought. I suppose you could be disappointed that the thrust of the plot involves Bond in late fifties America, which both isn't very exotic and seems to have been well-represented as a time period too. Not a real turn-off, but I still hope Horowitz's next (which I'm fairly looking forward to) gets in some more globe-trotting.

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Don't see that it's been discussed but I finally caught Becoming Bond (AKA: The George Lazenby Story) last night.

 

Works overall (an Austin Powers-level dick joke was out of place), jarring stunt-casting (Dana Carvey as Johnny Carson) and it glosses over Lazenby's post-Bond struggles before bouncing back with his real estate business. But one can look past that based on what a great storyteller he is. You can easily see how he succeeded in car sales, modeling and talking his way into being Bond.

 

Not taking Lazenby's story 100% to heart though. He's a well-known bullshitter (Something The Making of On Her Majesty's Secret Service author Charles Helfenstein reiterated to James Bond Radio) and again, it downplays his tensions with Cubby Broccoli, Peter Hunt and Diana Rigg. If you've followed Lazenby's claims over the years, then you'll notice the inconsistencies as told here.

 

The most telling aspect is how Broccoli is never seen and barely mentioned. All on Harry Saltzman (perfectly cast as Jeff Garlin). Always got the impression Lazenby was Harry's boy (Years after both quit Bond, they developed projects together) and the Broccolis despised Lazenby and only begrudgingly included him in anniversary events. 

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It's funny how the Broccolis liked to put Connery in a bad light claiming he got greedy or something (despite his donating clearly being a message "it was never about the money "). By most accounts, Lazenby was the real prick on set and walked out on the role thinking he was too good for Bond. I don't blame the Broccolis for not being too fond of him.
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Don't see that it's been discussed but I finally caught Becoming Bond (AKA: The George Lazenby Story) last night.

 

Works overall (an Austin Powers-level dick joke was out of place), jarring stunt-casting (Dana Carvey as Johnny Carson) and it glosses over Lazenby's post-Bond struggles before bouncing back with his real estate business. But one can look past that based on what a great storyteller he is. You can easily see how he succeeded in car sales, modeling and talking his way into being Bond.

 

Not taking Lazenby's story 100% to heart though. He's a well-known bullshitter (Something The Making of On Her Majesty's Secret Service author Charles Helfenstein reiterated to James Bond Radio) and again, it downplays his tensions with Cubby Broccoli, Peter Hunt and Diana Rigg. If you've followed Lazenby's claims over the years, then you'll notice the inconsistencies as told here.

 

The most telling aspect is how Broccoli is never seen and barely mentioned. All on Harry Saltzman (perfectly cast as Jeff Garlin). Always got the impression Lazenby was Harry's boy (Years after both quit Bond, they developed projects together) and the Broccolis despised Lazenby and only begrudgingly included him in anniversary events. 

 

That's on Hulu, right?

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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post
 

Don't see that it's been discussed but I finally caught Becoming Bond (AKA: The George Lazenby Story) last night.

 

Works overall (an Austin Powers-level dick joke was out of place), jarring stunt-casting (Dana Carvey as Johnny Carson) and it glosses over Lazenby's post-Bond struggles before bouncing back with his real estate business. But one can look past that based on what a great storyteller he is. You can easily see how he succeeded in car sales, modeling and talking his way into being Bond.

 

Not taking Lazenby's story 100% to heart though. He's a well-known bullshitter (Something The Making of On Her Majesty's Secret Service author Charles Helfenstein reiterated to James Bond Radio) and again, it downplays his tensions with Cubby Broccoli, Peter Hunt and Diana Rigg. If you've followed Lazenby's claims over the years, then you'll notice the inconsistencies as told here.

 

The most telling aspect is how Broccoli is never seen and barely mentioned. All on Harry Saltzman (perfectly cast as Jeff Garlin). Always got the impression Lazenby was Harry's boy (Years after both quit Bond, they developed projects together) and the Broccolis despised Lazenby and only begrudgingly included him in anniversary events. 


I wasn't even aware of this BECOMING BOND thing being out!  Guess I've got my evening viewing sorted out.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

It's funny how the Broccolis liked to put Connery in a bad light claiming he got greedy or something (despite his donating clearly being a message "it was never about the money "). By most accounts, Lazenby was the real prick on set and walked out on the role thinking he was too good for Bond. I don't blame the Broccolis for not being too fond of him.

 

The Broccolis have always struck me as stuck-up especially Barbara. They're most definitely the gatekeepers of their own propaganda. See the 1999/2000 Special Edition DVD documentaries. 

 

RE: Connery. The most telling part of Everything or Nothing was the former head of UA saying how greedy Broccoli and Saltzman were and siding with Connery on the salary matter. He was also the driving force behind nixing John Gavin as Bond and forcing them to bring back Connery for Diamonds.

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Someone in the past couple of years posted a pretty in depth story regarding the whole Lazenby situation.  Essentially...if memory serves...he signed a really bad deal with his manager, and it was his manager who made the insane demands of the Broccolis to keep in the game.  The contract was something that Lazenby, as an amateur, should never have signed, because he couldn't get out of it AND it gave all control to his manager.  

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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post
 

Don't see that it's been discussed but I finally caught Becoming Bond (AKA: The George Lazenby Story) last night.

 

Works overall (an Austin Powers-level dick joke was out of place), jarring stunt-casting (Dana Carvey as Johnny Carson) and it glosses over Lazenby's post-Bond struggles before bouncing back with his real estate business. But one can look past that based on what a great storyteller he is. You can easily see how he succeeded in car sales, modeling and talking his way into being Bond.

I couldn't sit through BECOMING BOND. I love Lazenby and could listen to the guy tell stories all day, but I found the comic re-enactments of his life to be badly cast and unbelievably annoying, not to mention unconvincing in its period detail. It would have been perfectly fine with Lazenby just talking directly to the screen for 90 minutes.

 

Also, it barely scratches the surface of Lazenby's film career post-Bond, which is too bad. I would love to hear about Lazenby's experiences working on a giallo film (WHO SAW HER DIE?), or in the martial arts film industry with Bruce Lee, Angela Mao, Wang Yu, and Jim Kelly, or with Peter Bogdanovich (SAINT JACK), or even about his small but memorable role in GETTYSBURG.

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I had no idea there were re-enactments in this. I really hate that kind of stuff.
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And they're particularly unnecessary when you have someone like Lazenby who can flat out tell a story.  He's great to just watch and listen to.

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When it comes to these kind of docs, I prefer just doing fun animated sketches like in Shatner's CHAOS ON THE BRIDGE.
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 Lazenby is good on the OHMSS doc. According to that, while he didn't always get along with the cast, the crew members thought he was an OK guy.

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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post
 

 

The Broccolis have always struck me as stuck-up especially Barbara. They're most definitely the gatekeepers of their own propaganda. See the 1999/2000 Special Edition DVD documentaries. 

 

RE: Connery. The most telling part of Everything or Nothing was the former head of UA saying how greedy Broccoli and Saltzman were and siding with Connery on the salary matter. He was also the driving force behind nixing John Gavin as Bond and forcing them to bring back Connery for Diamonds.

 

Well, they also produced Everything Or Nothing, so it might be something of a maturation/comfort level thing. It's easy to see a less-experienced Barbara Broccoli playing it safe on those early docs. Everything Or Nothing, also made on her watch a dozen years later, is a lot more candid. (And there's no goddamn blu!)

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That's true!

 

But... I don't know. Call me crazy but there's something off-putting about how Barbara Broccoli refers to her parents by their first names.

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Had this on preorder for a long time but got cancelled after such a long delay. Hope it's good, I'll wait for the word on it.
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We enjoyed the hell out of the BECOMING BOND movie on Hulu.  The re-enactments were distracting at first, but then they kinda settled into a groove and got tonally consistent with Lazenby's narration, and everything clicked.

 

Weird to see that his leaving the role was reduced to him essentially turning down a million and walking away from a contract.  All of the behind the scenes stuff that I've read indicated that it was much more involved with that, including a problem with his manager who wouldn't let him sign any sort of deal.  It's also kinda surprising that the movie barely touches on any aspects of his life after leaving the role apart from a few tidbits here and there.  Pretty sure the film wrapped up in about 5 minutes once he walked away.

 

But regardless, Lazenby himself is great in this.  He's an excellent storyteller and has oodles of charisma.  This is worth a watch.

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I wonder if the Blonde is supposed to be Vesper?
https://www.previewsworld.com/Article/196038-Dynamite-To-Publish-James-Bond-Casino-Royale-Graphic-Novel


I dunno if it's supposed to be Vesper...but she looks like Marilyn Monroe.
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Ion TV is doing day long marathons of Bond movies every Sunday. Mostly it's Craig and Brosnan...today for some gawdawful reason they are running Die Another Day back to back before showing Skyfall and Casino Royale...I mean...who schedules that.
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DAD used to get the most prominent time slots on TV networks while the good ones were usually pushed back around early morning. OHMSS was lucky to EVER get any spot in the schedule.
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Excellent read about The Living Daylights by our man Phil...right here...http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/06/29/the-living-daylights-at-30

I'm not a huge fan of The Living Daylights but I do like what they were trying to do with it. They lose me with the whole Afghanistan side trip.
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Excellent read about The Living Daylights by our man Phil...right here...http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/06/29/the-living-daylights-at-30

I'm not a huge fan of The Living Daylights but I do like what they were trying to do with it. They lose me with the whole Afghanistan side trip.


Great piece from Phil.  I love THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS (it's easily a top 10 entry for me), and I think it balances Serious Bond and "Bond Sparkle" (as Phil calls it) more comfortably than Phil does, but his points are well made.  I do think he's dead-on about Dalton in the movie, though; he's really damn good, and his markedly different (from Moore) energy gives the picture a distinct vibe, even with series stalwart John Glen still at the helm.

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I've said it (several times) before but Dalton was the first Bond to behave as if he'd actually been trained to kill people.


Edited by Hammerhead - 7/2/17 at 9:58pm
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So. Bond shared universe. Saw the article on BMD and none of the suggestions really grabbed me?

 

Felix Leiter, P.I.? The biggest thing the guy did before becoming Jeffrey Wright was get eaten by a shark; don't think it'll work.

 

Period Bond movie (the name-drop her is a Dench!M origin story). Probably the most viable, though I'm not sure Dench!M is so popular that, multiple movies after her death (and possibly a whole new Bond later), audiences would want to hear more about her. Besides which, if you set it in the 60s with a different protagonist, Q, M, etc, I kinda have to ask what's the point of the shared universe. That Bond and this other guy worked out of the same office, fifty years apart?

 

Q solo movie. Seriously?

 

Moneypenny movie. Maybe? I don't think she was really that much of a scene-stealer; in Spectre, her being a badass agent was a total afterthought. Q got more of an action scene than her. A female 00 movie could work, but it's hard for me not to see the Moneypenny stuff as too much baggage.

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