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That was in YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE. He was clearly having a ball in DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER and it wasn't just the paycheck.


If I'm remembering correctly, he gave away that paycheck to start a scholarship fund or a school in Scotland or something. I just don't see what you guys see in that PTS.

 

Nice find on the video! That's not Craig in the quick shots, lest anyone get their jeans in a lather prematurely...

 

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If I'm remembering correctly, he gave away that paycheck to start a scholarship fund or a school in Scotland or something.



He donated his $1 million upfront fee to his charity program. But I could have sworn I'd read his deal also included a nice slice of Diamond's box-office.

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Come on that's garbage and you know it. 



Righto, my bad. I thought of two different ways it wouldn't work about as soon as I posted. It's a neat idea though, oh well

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If I'm remembering correctly, he gave away that paycheck to start a scholarship fund or a school in Scotland or something. I just don't see what you guys see in that PTS.

 

 



 

I see a bloated Connery wearing a bad wig looking 15 years old than he did in You Only Live Twice where he already kind of looked like shit. Hey now!

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Fat or old, he's a lot more engaged and charismatic in DAF and that's what counts for me. As for the PTS, my thoughts are more in line with NoMoreMrNiceGaius's, it being more of a continuation of YOLT than OHMSS. You could see it the other way too with how Bond is a lot more brutal than usual. Anyway, I like DAF because of the absurdity and benign bizarre. And the dialogue is great. I keep hearing it's the real first Moore flick but with Connery. Not really accurate. A lot of it is very Connery and I can't see Moore work with the same dry humor. Connery can choke a girl with a bikini, but Moore can only go as far as seducing her, maybe even sleep with her. The only substantial element DAF has in common with the rest of the 70s films is the emphasis on the benign bizarre.
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Fat or old, he's a lot more engaged and charismatic in DAF and that's what counts for me. As for the PTS, my thoughts are more in line with NoMoreMrNiceGaius's, it being more of a continuation of YOLT than OHMSS. You could see it the other way too with how Bond is a lot more brutal than usual. Anyway, I like DAF because of the absurdity and benign bizarre. And the dialogue is great. I keep hearing it's the real first Moore flick but with Connery. Not really accurate. A lot of it is very Connery and I can't see Moore work with the same dry humor. Connery can choke a girl with a bikini, but Moore can only go as far as seducing her, maybe even sleep with her. The only substantial element DAF has in common with the rest of the 70s films is the emphasis on the benign bizarre.


Moore could put the squeeze on girls too though. Remember him nearly breaking Maude Adams' arm in Man With The Golden Gun, and nearly killing Rosie Carver when he realized she was a double agent in Live and Let Die? He softened up a bit after his first two films but he was still kind of a bastard early on. 

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Moore could put the squeeze on girls too though. Remember him nearly breaking Maude Adams' arm in Man With The Golden Gun, and nearly killing Rosie Carver when he realized she was a double agent in Live and Let Die? He softened up a bit after his first two films but he was still kind of a bastard early on. 



At least early on, I think the tonal shift heading into the Moore era had to do as much with a goofy, coked-up-to-the-gills 70s aesthetic as it did with the change in actors. See, I don't lay my objections to the Moore films at his feet-- I actually really like him-- but at the crappy, who-gives-a-shit storytelling. TMWTGG kills me, for instance, because it's such a fantastic idea on paper, with the great Christopher Lee playing a sort of anti-Bond. But the movie is a total goddamn mess.

 

It'll never happen, but it's one of those titles (like MOONRAKER) that I wish they would just remake-- find me modern badass in the Lee mode to play an opposite number to Craig. 

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Well, there's Fiennes...
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I hadn't heard definitively that he'd be playing a villain in SKYFALL, but that would be very cool. I figure Fiennes is roughly the age Lee was when he played Scaramanga. 

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Moore could put the squeeze on girls too though. Remember him nearly breaking Maude Adams' arm in Man With The Golden Gun, and nearly killing Rosie Carver when he realized she was a double agent in Live and Let Die? He softened up a bit after his first two films but he was still kind of a bastard early on. 

Of course, and Moore turned out not to be very convincing in those scenes hence why he had very few of those moments and they never happened beyond film #2. I think Mankiewicz said it best when talking about writing for the two actors and the differences between Connery and Moore.

http://www.empireonline.com/interviews/interview.asp?IID=1101
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What was the difference, for you, between Connery’s Bond and Roger Moore?
As a writer, I always said the difference between Sean and Roger is that Sean used to throw away the throw away lines. And Roger, because of his RADA [Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts] upbringing played them, so I wrote dialogue for Roger to really play those quips. The difference is you can put Sean at a nightclub table with a beautiful girl opposite him, and he could just as easily lean across the table and kiss her or use his steak knife under the table stick it in her gut, and then say, “Excuse me, waiter. I have nothing to eat my meat with.” The audience will accept him doing either one. Roger can kiss the girl but if he tries the knife thing, he would look nasty. Roger looks like a nice guy; Sean can look like a bastard. Meaning, there’s a twinkle of violence in his Sean’s eye, that just isn’t there isn’t there in Roger’s.

In The Man With The Golden Gun, Moore as Bond does rough up a women. Do you think it wasn’t that successful for the reasons you described?
Yeah, that’s right. First of all, they were trying to make Roger more physical. In the beginning of Live And Let Die - and Roger’s just a wonderful, wonderful man and has become a great friend - the first scene we filmed was him running for the double-decker bus that eventually gets shaved off during his car chase. Guy Hamilton said, “When we start, Roger, you run for the bus and hop on.” Roger said, “There’s something you oughta know about me Guy; I can’t run.” Guy said, “Can’t run?” Roger said, “I look like a twit when I run. I have such long legs. Watch”. And he ran and he looked like Bambi. So, you had to adjust. Guy said, “Right then. Roger, walk briskly towards the bus and get on.” You know, of course, every actor has his strengths and weaknesses.

Do you think that the character of Bond in Diamonds Are Forever is consistent with his character in Live And Let Die?
No. Roger’s character in Live And Let Die is a much more urbane Bond. I played to his strength. For instance, one of my favourite lines in there occurs when he’s taking the little old lady for the flying lesson and, because they’re being chased, they fly around (in the plane) half-destroying the airport. The little old lady is so frightened by the end of the chase that she nearly passes out. He looks at her and says, “Same time tomorrow Mrs Bell?” Now, Sean wouldn’t have played that well, I would have found another line for him. But Roger had this urbane kind of cheeriness about him that you can do that. It’s just an instinct, you know who you’re writing for.


You've said that Connery had an uneasy relationship with the part. How did Moore feel about playing Bond? He seemed more comfortable with it, a little more at ease.
I think Roger is very comfortable in his own skin, he really is, and I think that shows. So when you give him a part to play that suits him, he is just awfully good at it. He’s a real pro. That’s a wonderful quality for an actor to possess. Especially when you know you’re playing something that you are absolutely right for. If you cast Roger as a crazed killer because you thought, “Boy, this is gonna be great because you’re casting Roger against type,” I think you’d probably be disappointed. I don’t know if Roger plays that very well; I suspect he’d be uncomfortable playing so dark a character.
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That interview with Tom Mankiewicz is pretty great. It kind of goes to my point, though,  about the producers' approach to story in that era.  But  Mankiewicz could write a hell of a one-liner, and he certainly deserves credit for the exchange between Bond and Scaramanga in TMWTGG: : "I have six bullets to your one." "I only need one!" 

So I guess we simply get a Bond who fits the times (like our Presidents), and Roger Moore was  the Englebert Humperdink of the 70s secret agent set-- attractive but safe for women of a certain age.

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Yeah. I think TMWTGG suffered mostly because of timing, releasing it only a year and a half after LALD. It was literally being shot only a few months after LALD and the schedule didn't allow much time for a refined script. In ways it was as bad as QOS's issue with the writers strike. Mankiewicz quit midway feeling he didn't have anything more to offer. Maibaum was then brought in and added stuff like the Solex device to give make the film seem very much with the times, before Mankiewicz was convinced to return for script doctoring. I think that's the real issue because Maibaum's straightforward plot doesn't gel with Mankeiwicz's writing style. I would have loved to have seen a more Mankiewicz influenced script with a lot more emphasis on Bond vs. Scaramanga. That's the real hook for the film. The Solex plot is just uninteresting. By the time Bond kills Scaramanga it feels like the film is closing, but wait, there's this thing with Bond trying to retrieve the Solex and it kinda drags, especially when it's Bond being accompanied by one of the worst bimbos of the series.

I think this is especially why Cubby never tried releasing a Bond film a year and a half later again. Bond films were no longer sticking too close to the books like in the 60s, so a lot more time was needed to refine scripts that were for the most part completely original stories like TSWLM and MR that bore little resemblance with their book counterparts.
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Solex Agitator-- worst superweapon ever. That's exactly my problem with that movie. I love so many other aspects about it. The "007" bullet delivered to the Secret Service. Christopher Lee. Hell, the theme by LuLu promises a much better picture than what you get.

 

Of course, the unfinished Fleming book didn't have any of that stuff, so you have to give the filmmakers credit for that. That's why I wish they could just recapitulate that concept somehow in our Daniel Craig era.

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The Official James Bond site has been relaunched

 

With new SKYFALL behind the scenes footage.

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Rats, that's the same video someone posted a few days ago. It's been interesting to see EON really embrace all the social media this time out, though. They're a little behind the curve (as usual), but better late than never.

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They've done something like this before but not as widespread, instead they posted video diaries exclusively on MySpace for QOS. I always thought that was an odd move given how YouTube has always been more popular.
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They've done something like this before but not as widespread, instead they posted video diaries exclusively on MySpace for QOS. I always thought that was an odd move given how YouTube has always been more popular.

Very odd, was anyone even on MYSPACE by 2008?
 

 

 

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I think it was a deal done to make up for the lack of viral activity in 2006 for CR, so they thought a social site that was still big and relevant like MySpace would get the most attention. Only by the time QOS was released MySpace had already start to decline. Just one of those things they couldn't see ahead and now they're making up for it by using Twitter/Facebook for SF. I doubt either the two will decline by the end of 2012, but you never know.

I believe the MySpace videos were one of the special features for the weak QOS two-disc release.
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It doesn't seem emotional at all. Like I said it plays more like a direct sequel to You Only Live Twice, Bond is pissed and is taking it personally because Blofeld escaped, not because the man killed his wife. 

 

Indeed.  In fact, when the time comes to rewatch the franchise this year, I think I'll watch DAF before OHMSS just to see how it plays.  Honestly, off the top of my head, it likely fits better.  Blofeld is left unaccounted for and the neck injury he sustains at the end of OHMSS lines up well with his "unofficial" appearance in FYEO.

 

That and it leaves room for the "lost" Bond film in my head........................a revenge piece with Bond, Leiter, and Marc-Ange Draco dismantling the remnants of SPECTRE and leaving Blofeld paralyzed.
 

 

 

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Moore could put the squeeze on girls too though. Remember him nearly breaking Maude Adams' arm in Man With The Golden Gun, and nearly killing Rosie Carver when he realized she was a double agent in Live and Let Die? He softened up a bit after his first two films but he was still kind of a bastard early on. 


Like I've been saying all theses years, as jokey as they can get, there is a mean streak present in the Moore run.  In the later ones it tends not to revolve around Roger himself, but it is there nonetheless.  Moore's Bond was ruthless and calculating when the situation called for it.

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It's really something; OHMSS looks as if it could have come out a year after Dr. No. DAF looks just this side of Serpico. Really grimy and ugly.

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It's really something; OHMSS looks as if it could have come out a year after Dr. No. DAF looks just this side of Serpico. Really grimy and ugly.



What happened? Part of me wants to blame Guy Hamilton, because his two Roger Moore films are really flat and ugly too, but I don't remember Goldfinger looking bad. But the quality between On Her Majesty's Secret Service and the Guy Hamilton 70s films and then the Lewis Gilbert 70s film is palpable. Did EON just get really chintzy after OHMSS, and then decide to spend money again for Spy Who Loved Me? 

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Tintin and Sherlock have convinced me I need to see a Steven Moffat scripted Bond film. Make it happen Eon.

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Tintin and Sherlock have convinced me I need to see a Steven Moffat scripted Bond film. Make it happen Eon.

 

Craig and Moffat on Tintin, right? Craig's been swinging his dick on these Bond films; stranger things have happened.

 


Edited by Phil - 1/2/12 at 8:21pm
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Like I've been saying all theses years, as jokey as they can get, there is a mean streak present in the Moore run.  In the later ones it tends not to revolve around Roger himself, but it is there nonetheless.  Moore's Bond was ruthless and calculating when the situation called for it.


Second that! Moore gets a couple of good "Bastard" moments in For Your Eyes Only: 1) He coldly dispatches Blofeld in the opening sequence, then 2) coldly uses his foot to kick a car with a Goon in it off a cliff.

 

And of course there is the famous hunting scene in Moonraker: "You missed, Mr. Bond". "DID I?"

 

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I think it was a deal done to make up for the lack of viral activity in 2006 for CR, so they thought a social site that was still big and relevant like MySpace would get the most attention. Only by the time QOS was released MySpace had already start to decline. Just one of those things they couldn't see ahead and now they're making up for it by using Twitter/Facebook for SF. I doubt either the two will decline by the end of 2012, but you never know.
I believe the MySpace videos were one of the special features for the weak QOS two-disc release.


I appreciate this perspective. Thanks, Mr Stocks!

 

PS: RE: Weak Home Video Releases of Bond Films

 

I agree that QOS disc was wanting for features.. I even paid for the fancy one with the extra disc and the foil cover

 

IMHO the best releases we've seen (or at least that I know about) are the ones put out for TOMORROW NEVER DIES. Several years back one of the big presents I asked for for XMAS was an out of print TOMORROW NEVER DIES SPECIAL EDITION DVD which my mom got for me for 50$ (IMHO? Classiest BOND DVD cover art yet)

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And I've already written about the incredible VHS COLLECTOR'S EDITION of TND that I picked up for 6$ at a gas station, but for reference, here is the amazing set EON put out for that film (the photo on the lower right? I have that up on my wall right now:) )

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Craig and Moffat on Tintin, right? Craig's been swinging his dick on these Bond films; stranger things have happened.

 


Indeed.  Craig's likely the main reason that Mendes is on board for the new one and he almost got Roger Michel the job on QoS, though Michel ultimately turned it down.  They seem to value his input, at least to a certain degree, so if he were to step up and back someone like Moffat for scripting duties..........it could happen.

 

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I wasn't as big on Tintin as a lot of folks, but the member of that writing team that I think could direct the living hell out of a Bond film is Cornish. Be a while before he has the track record to even be considered, though.

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Got through Casino Royale and as always enjoyed it. In some ways I forgot a lot about the romantic getaway with Bond and Vesper. Really wish the film went deeper into that instead of skimming it.

Live and Let Die - Only read it once many years ago, and wasn't that crazy about it. Having just read it again I found it to be very very engaging this time around. Solitaire still seems pretty useless to me. Favorite bit might be Bond's entire journey underwater to the caves. This is a sequence I would have loved to seen realized on screen. Oh well. Mr. Big sounded like a great villain, at least in a sense that he's depicted as a force of nature. Too bad the film version never used him.

Moonraker - Only read up to Bond getting his assignment, since I already read it just recently before. Just as good as the last couple of readings and still is my favorite Fleming book.

Diamonds Are Forever - It's the one I never actually finished. I just remember by the time Bond entered the ghost town I lost interest. I think I'm liking it more now than I did before, but I still find it very weak after the first three books. Not enough interesting things happen so it kinda drags. Well written, but besides Bond's relationship with Leiter and Tiffany, it's not the most thrilling. I can see why the Spangled Mob were replaced entirely on the film adaption save Wint and Kidd (the film version of them is vastly superior). For example Bond barely interacts with the Spangled brothers and we really don't get to see much of them. I think Shady Tree had more going on than any other villain. Oh well.

RANKINGS:

MOONRAKER - 4.5 of 5
CASINO ROYALE - 4 of 5
LIVE AND LET DIE - 4 of 5
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER - 2 of 5

Also, just read the first couple of chapters of FRWL. I loved it when I first read it years ago, today I love it even more. This is a hell of a rebound for Fleming. The detailed background on Red Grant, General G's rant in the conference room. I think this was a nice deviation from the formula of the last four books, not presenting Bond til nearly a dozen chapters in, detailing on the plot to kill him. Knowing that Bond is the hunted from the very start keeps the tension alive. Reminds me of how much the film version was very close to the book, with the exception of the Russians being traded for SPECTRE.
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Finally, all the Bond films will be available in HD.

http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/collecting_bond50_bluray_set_announced.php3?t=&s=&id=03055

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In celebration of James Bond's monumental golden anniversary, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment today unveiled BOND 50, a collectible box-set featuring all 22 James Bond films on Blu-ray Disc for the first time in one complete offering. The longest running film franchise of all time, the Bond 50 collection marks the debut of nine James Bond films previously unavailable in high definition Blu-ray. Fans around the world can pre-order now with participating online retailers.

Acclaimed Bond directors John Glen (five Bond films including For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View to a Kill, The Living Daylights & Licence To Kill), Martin Campbell (GoldenEye, Casino Royale) and Michael Apted (The World Is Not Enough) with special guests Olga Kurylenko (Quantum of Solace) and Caterina Murino (Casino Royale) made the Blu-ray announcement today during a Directors' Panel discussion in the Panasonic Booth at the annual Consumer Electronics Show.

BOND 50 showcases fifty years of Bond neatly packaged into one cool, sleek collectable box-set featuring all six iconic James Bond actors. Produced using the highest possible picture quality and audio presentation, the collection includes all 22 James Bond feature films from Dr. No to Quantum of Solace and more than 130 hours of bonus features including some new and exclusive content.

"With all 22 feature films available on Blu-ray in one collection for the first time this is a great way for fans to catch up on 007's epic journey before Skyfall hits theaters next Fall," said Michael Brown, Senior Vice President, MGM Home Entertainment. "Now viewers can enjoy the intense action of the innovative franchise in the most immersive home experience possible."

"We have a whole program of exciting activities planned for our 50th anniversary year, beginning with today's announcement, by Fox, of the release of all 22 films on Blu-ray for the very first time," added Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, with EON Productions. "We are also delighted that Fox has unveiled a specially designed anniversary poster which we hope the fans will love as much as we do. Our website, 007.com will be regularly updated with all the latest anniversary news and events."
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Very surprised to see so much love in this thread for Moonraker, when i was seven it was the bond film I was dying to see, but didn't get to watch it till about a year later, and even my pre-adolescent brain was let down. Although the monk training scene remains my favourite, 'bunch of guys testing shit in the background" Bond scene.

 

I'm in the Daniel Craig's new Bond is best Bond fan club. But then my previous favourite Bond films where the Timothy Dalton ones, they should have kept Dalton on for a few more, he was ahead of his time.

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A third Dalton film was a lost opportunity indeed. Thankfully Craig is actually getting his third film after the recent hiatus.
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Is this the most cynical box set release ever? I'm thinking it might be. After all, a new movie that will be completely throwing off collectors will be arriving just MONTHS after it gets released.

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They're releasing it this year because they want to hype up the 50th anniversary.
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Meh, they got my money for the ones they released already no need to shell out for the set just to get the missing 9. Besides I'm not nearly nitpicky enough to worry about them all having similar cover art. I'll just wait for the individual releases. Although I really want OHMSS, TSWLM and GE on Blu.

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Having seen On Her Majesty's Secret Service and GoldenEye on HD, I was happy to see they were restored after the 2006 DVD hack job.

The only Blu-ray I have of any Bond film is Casino Royale. I was eventually going to just get the Connery films, OHMSS and Dalton's duo, but I simply never got around to it. I also thought it was stupid that they didn't release them all at once. The three-film package volumes was an odd move on their part. Anyway, I don't mind getting the 50th anniversary package since it's at a very good price and I've grown to like the Moore films, only flicks I dislike at all are TND, TWINE and DAD.

As a matter of fact, I think this is the first time they're releasing them altogether in one box set. Everything else has been volume boxes.
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I think you're right.  Anyway, I've already pre-ordered my copy.  Heads up, it's only $200 if you pre-order on Amazon.........and will probably be less when the release date actually arrives.  Since Amazon is lovely enough to go ahead and discount you automatically for an extra they knock-off the price before it is release (this goes for ALL Amazon pre-orders), it's a no-brainer!

 

The only ones I currently own on BR are the two Craig films.  I never bothered to upgrade the others because I knew we'd get a megaset at some point and that's really the cheapest way to pick them up if you want to own the whole series in HD.  There was no hesitation on my part when it came to pre-ordering it.  I'm too die hard a fan not to.  Getting extra exclusive features will just be an added bonus, no matter what they are.

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I have all the Connery Films so far released and the Craig films. Will grab GE, YOLT, OHMSS.

Netflix has been kind enough for me to get my fix of the other lesser Bond flicks. Even watched TSWLM, and boy was I wrong about that film. Entertaining, but no where near as good as I thought it was. In fact, there isn't one Moore film I can say I would drop money for.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't GE meant to be a Dalton story? It could explain why it comes off more serious than the rest of grandpa Brosnan's films.
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If Roger Moore could have one convincing fight scene and maybe come across less like a creepy english uncle I'd probably love TSWLM*, but he just can't pull it off.

 

 

*Because I love crazy, over-the-top spy shit. My adoration of Jim Steranko-era Nick Fury can confirm that.

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LaurenOrtega, If you don't have the...4 Marvel Masterworks already, they include...Strange Tales Nick Fury Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. by Stan Lee Jack Kirby, followed by Jim Steranko's Nick Fury Agent Of S.H.I.E.L.D.  Book 4 is...Nick Fury Vs S.H.I.E.L.D.!  In July Bob Harras Nick Fury  arrives in a soft cover  trade paperback!  My favorite Bond remains...Roger Moore! Followed by Timothy Dalton and Sean Connery.  Daniel Craig is...4th.  The only Pierce Brosnan Film I watch is...Tomorrow Never Dies!  Still Pierce is a far better Bond than George Lazenby.

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LaurenOrtega, If you ever go to either...New York Comic Con, or San Diego Comic Con and meet Jim Steranko, don't mention...Nick Fury to him.  Apparently it is still a sore point with him.  He asked me, my favorite character?  I answered...Nick Fury, and he walked away.

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If Roger Moore could have one convincing fight scene and maybe come across less like a creepy english uncle I'd probably love TSWLM*, but he just can't pull it off.

Yeah, I always thought it was one of the weaker Moore films. Well crafted though. The whole subplot with Anya wanting to kill Bond for revenge was horribly handled and felt out of place tonally. Worst example is right after the scene where she vows to kill him, cuts immediately to them hanging on a rope with Moore smiling like he's got a hard on. And the fight scenes are most unconvincing.

Can't think of a worse Bond fight scene than this, one of the guys even taps Moore's back just to let him know he was behind him!
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If Roger Moore could have one convincing fight scene and maybe come across less like a creepy english uncle I'd probably love TSWLM*, but he just can't pull it off.


*Because I love crazy, over-the-top spy shit. My adoration of Jim Steranko-era Nick Fury can confirm that.

Well I think that's what really bugged me, besides XXX. I wish I could do one punch knock outs all the time (actually if you let me hit you just right, I could kill you).

Also I can dig the Connery films as period pieces (so watch out for the pussy blood), but I really dig the vibe that LTK, CR, QOS, and maybe to a lesser extent GE, got with their realism and class.

That said, I did work out once to the opening music from TSWLM, and made me wonder, Craig deserves a ski chase.
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Fans: "Wow, Craig looks tired and old in these stills..."

EON: (released photo of his backside): "WTF are you all even talking about...?"

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Fans: "Wow, Craig looks tired and old in these stills..."

EON: (released photo of his backside): "WTF are you all even talking about...?"



That's possibly the only rational explanation for such a weird choice of a first official still: "Ian Fleming's James Bond 007... in... SWIMFAN"

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The title sequence will be a homage to GOLFINGER, this time with images and credits projected onto Craig's pecs and ass crack.
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As I said on the last novel ranking, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE is a hell of a rebound after the mediocre DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER. I'd say the best section of the novel is Part 1 "The Plan". Part 2 "The Execution" isn't AS strong but it's still very good. Kerim Bey is probably my favorite Bond ally in the whole franchise. So Fleming originally planned on ending the series with this, having Bond get poisoned at the end. Would have been a hell of a way to end it and in a way probably fitting given Bond's profession. In many ways the film improves on the novel but I still think they could have done away with the boat chase. I wouldn't mind it going the novel with Bond leaving the train straight to the confrontation with Klebb, but it was smart to at least put in the helicopter attack as a way of making the villains a real threat, that Bond would not get away with it that easy.

MOONRAKER - 4.5 of 5
CASINO ROYALE - 4 of 5
FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE - 4 of 5
LIVE AND LET DIE - 4 of 5
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER - 2 of 5

Currently on DR. NO and already I feel the film should have been closer to the novel in terms of pacing. In the film it takes an hour for Bond to leave for Crab Key, while in the novel he leaves right after the creepy crawler scene, that and the poisoned fruit confirming him that Dr. No had already pulled the trigger and he decides to hunt him down. The additional stuff with Miss Taro and Dent is good, still it drags the film down. I also like that Bond only goes on this mission thinking it has to do with birds but eventually finds out about the toppling of space rockets, the classic Fleming formula of Bond going on a mission that seems mundane but turns out to be even bigger. Plus Quarrel is more grounded, it's a shame they made him superstitious in the film, the "fetch my shoes" and drinking gags.
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I've delayed the start of my reading "marathon".  I was hoping to begin over the holidays, but too much came up and now I'll likely wait another month or two since we have a new baby on the way (due mid-Feb).  Once things call down at night, I'll definitely be in the mood to chill out with a book and Bond is priority #1 in that regard.

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Congrats.
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Thanks!

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