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post #1 of 137
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Here's an interesting question I just thought of while on the CHUD message boards today.

I try to be pretty polite on these boards, perhaps even moreso than I am in real life, because I don't like the idea of the anonymity of internet chatting "enabling" me to act like I'm someone I'm not.

Although nothing like the atmosphere at AICN, I have noticed a pretty serious amount of rudeness at times on these boards, and it seems pretty widespread among both people who have been posting for years and total newbies. Reasonable threads will degenerate into snark-fests at times within a handful of posts. A lot of times I wonder if these same posters are like this in "real life."

So here's my question (this is addressed to everyone here): Is your on-line persona similar to the way you act when you're interacting in the real world, or are you more likely to say things/act in a way that you wouldn't otherwise? I'm specifically talking about how you treat others, as opposed to using bad language, which is ubiquitous on the net, but often isn't tolerated in the workplace, for example). I'd love to get input on this from anyone who posts here. Thanks.

I look forward to your responses.
post #2 of 137
I'm probably not as polite.
post #3 of 137
I'm nicer in real life. Plus I have breasts. Glorious gigantic breasts.
post #4 of 137
I guess I am more likely to speak my mind on certain topics on the internet than in real life. I still feel the same way about such topics, but I feel i'm better at voicing my opinion better in writting than in speech. I think is also may create situations where I say something I am less likely to say in Real Life.

Also the internet it's easier to talk about topics with a different point of view than the other person, however I often avoid it here because I have noticed that a lot of the people who don't share my views, are rude about it and not respectful at all.

In real life it can create unconfortable situations in places you don't want to be uncomfortable at. Like work or school, you just don't want to deal with that conversation everytime you see that person, or worse having a arguement with a friend ( I had one about Abortion once... yeesh, with my best friend no less).
post #5 of 137
I try to make the effort to be extra polite on here, though not always successfully, because being a prick on the internet is about the stupidest, saddest thing I can imagine. Unless you're really, really good at it, like Devin. I'd say, overall, the biggest difference between on-line and real life is that here I'm less obviously drunk.

Edit: But also more obviously masturbating. Isn't that ironic?
post #6 of 137
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Don't worry Moltisanti, I've always pictured you with breasts while reading your posts, as well as imagining your reading them out loud to yourself as you type in your mellifluous contralto voice, cigarette holder dangling languidly from your voluptuous lips....

But seriously, I also avoid discussing politics Matt, mostly because I come here to talk film, and my ignorance would get me creamed in the politics board. But yeah, I don't like talking politics with my friends in real life either, as I'm anti-partisan and not really liberal or conservative.

Like you John, I suspect most people use the anonymity of these boards to act in ways they wouldn't otherwise, but I just wanted to hear from posters themselves.
post #7 of 137
Whine, whine.

I don't think people are being unreasonable. People who act like asses get made fun of, other people laugh at them. I just call that a good time.
post #8 of 137
I have more hair in real life.
post #9 of 137
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Originally Posted by Ali Mohamed
Whine, whine.

I don't think people are being unreasonable. People who act like asses get made fun of, other people laugh at them. I just call that a good time.
Hey Ali Mohamed. I see what you're saying, but that wasn't really what I was asking. My question is just whether or not you personally act differently on-line than you do in "real life." I would love to hear your opinion.
post #10 of 137
I don't know, if anything I'm more restrained around here than I am in real life.

But what I was pointing out is your constant repetition of how everybody is "rude" and "snarky".
post #11 of 137
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Originally Posted by Ali Mohamed
I don't know, if anything I'm more restrained around here than I am in real life.

But what I was pointing out is your constant repetition of how everybody is "rude" and "snarky".
Hey, thanks for your feedback. By your use of the phrase "constant repetition" I'm assuming you mean my posts about politeness in other threads as well as this one, and that my comments are out of any and all proportion to any rudeness I might perceive.

Would you say that I am wrong that people are rude on the boards, or just that it's not something that I should be bothered by (like when Devin said "politeness doesn't matter,"
which I must admit did exercise me rather inordinately)?

I just don't see a reason to treat people less than respectfully, just because I can't look them in the eye. Maybe I'm just naive and people are much ruder in real life than I acknowledge.

Also though, I want to think that JohnShade is wrong in saying that people only act politely towards each other because they fear reprisals of some sort. I'd like to think people generally want to get along with each other in a respectful manner without oblique motives. But maybe John's right; depressing thought though.

Anyway, thanks for the response.
post #12 of 137
I didn't mean to sound so harsh. Crap, I know I'm going to sound like the internet "tough" guy but you just have to a bit of a thicker skin around here than you would in real life.
post #13 of 137
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Originally Posted by Ali Mohamed
I didn't mean to sound so harsh. Crap, I know I'm going to sound like the internet "tough" guy but you just have to a bit of a thicker skin around here than you would in real life.
Sometimes I think I come off like the Mary Poppins of the internet, which is pretty funny.

Incidentally, in the year or so I've posted on the boards here, I'm not conscious of anyone really ever getting nasty with me, and I am not easily offended anyway. The only time I've ever gotten really mad on these boards had less to do with "rudeness" and more to do with smug, self-congratulatory posturing. One of the trickiest things about the internet is that you can't hear the tone of voice in what people are saying, which is a huge cue as to whether they're joking, being sarcastic, or in dead earnest.

I'm just fascinated by the myriad ways in which people's behavior is affected by the groups they are a part of. Sometimes I'm not even sure people are aware of it.
post #14 of 137
I have more of Russ Fischer's hair in real life.
post #15 of 137
I'm much nicer online.
post #16 of 137
I'm actually more obnoxious IRL than online.
Mostly because the majority of my friends are too, so I must escalate in order to compete.
S'like a Cold War nuclear stand off of asshole-ness.
post #17 of 137
Moltisanti's a fat fat man?

And I'm much much more of a pussy in real life. I run from bees.
post #18 of 137
I actually pee and shit in real life. Go figure.
post #19 of 137
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Originally Posted by IndianSummerSky
I actually pee and shit in real life. Go figure.
Hey, thanks for all the responses, guys; much appreciated.

I'm not sure what this one means though; are you drawing a parallel to illustrate that the answer to my question was so obvious as to not merit a less obfuscate response (and thus, not worth asking at all), or were just feeling scatological.

In any case, I'd love to get your take on this topic. Thanks.

I just thought of another possible interpretation; do you mean to say that you feel it's an arbitrary distinction in either case??
post #20 of 137
Probably nowhere near as articulate in here as in real life, because English is my third language, but I like it here, because these boards are filled with lots of interesting people. Even the mean ones can be very amusing and hilarious.
post #21 of 137
Don't read too much into what I wrote. I just don't pee or shit while typing.

I'd say 90% of my 'net personality is evident in my family, work, and social life. The other 10% is locked up in a sperm bank.
post #22 of 137
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Originally Posted by barbelithbomb
I'm actually more obnoxious IRL than online.
Mostly because the majority of my friends are too, so I must escalate in order to compete.
S'like a Cold War nuclear stand off of asshole-ness.
I know exactly what you mean. Recently, I crashed with a friend of mine from college for a month or two, and we got involved in an old-school "your mom" conflict that just escalated and escalated, getting more and more childish and disgusting for weeks and weeks. Then when I moved back to a different set of friends, I was still at Defcon 3 from this little fracas, and so I would still throw out horribly insulting remarks about people's mothers completely unprovoked from time to time. The problem? One of my new roommates I hardly knew beforehand, and another's mom died when we were in high school. Not cool.

Almostsexy, I hope this helps you in your study of human group interactions among geeks.
post #23 of 137
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Originally Posted by Schwartz
I know exactly what you mean. Recently, I crashed with a friend of mine from college for a month or two, and we got involved in an old-school "your mom" conflict that just escalated and escalated, getting more and more childish and disgusting for weeks and weeks. Then when I moved back to a different set of friends, I was still at Defcon 3 from this little fracas, and so I would still throw out horribly insulting remarks about people's mothers completely unprovoked from time to time. The problem? One of my new roommates I hardly knew beforehand, and another's mom died when we were in high school. Not cool.

Yow. See, this is exactly the sort of thing I live in fear of. I use quite a bit of profanity in real life (I try not to on-line), and in proper company can joke about some pretty offensive things, which I won't mention here, but it has backfired on me painfully a few times. But sometimes I feel like I'm so polite on line that I come off as either blisteringly insincere or supremely condescending, so it's all up to interpretation.

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Almostsexy, I hope this helps you in your study of human group interactions among geeks.
Well Schwartz, so far every response has told me something about the person who posted, even the ones that seem to be deliberately obscurantist. I'm far enough on the outside of everyday human society that much of human behavior mystifies me, so it's always nice to have people who are willing to help me out with my weird surveys. It's appreciated.
post #24 of 137
I believe I am a lot meaner when I am not jacked into the Matrix known as the internet.
post #25 of 137
I'm pretty much the same. Although I do tend to swear a lot less when I'm on the boards than in real life. Usually that's reversed with people.
post #26 of 137
I'm actually a dog in the real world. I came here to understand better my human companions. I've learned so much. My personality is pretty much the same, but I do considerably more butt-sniffing in real life.
post #27 of 137
I'm a lot less nice in real life, as I try to be really agreeable around here. Then again if any of you knew me in real life, we'd definitely get along.

I supposed that makes a twisted sort of sense in this case.

Also, I'm sure one of you would go gay on me. I have that affect on straight guys. In fact, I know exactly who would go gay on me.
post #28 of 137
It's seem a trend. I'm also a bit more rude in real life. It's bug some people, but it's more honest than saying nothing.

On the board at at least try to be decent, even when confronted to people who need a much needed self gratification by insulting everything.

I also like to freak out pedestrians who crosses the street at the innapropriate time and place when I drive around town.
post #29 of 137
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Originally Posted by Papa Quagmire
Probably nowhere near as articulate in here as in real life, because English is my third language, but I like it here, because these boards are filled with lots of interesting people. Even the mean ones can be very amusing and hilarious.
Same here. English is my second language so much to my chagrin, sometimes I refrain myself to posting on certain threads as it'd take me a week to fully (or quite adequately) express my opinions. Which is a bitch.

Oh, and sometimes I also have to leave some posts unanswered due to the fact that I tend to log in while I'm at work (ahem).

And I'm sure I'm not that pretentious sounding in real life. It's just that I like writing. And I tend to choose my words... carefully... and I never repeat myself.
post #30 of 137
What you read is what you get in real life...except I'm far more sarcastic in real life because I can get the tone right. On the internet I could never get the sarcasm vibe correct so I just don't do it.
post #31 of 137
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Originally Posted by PsycheOut00
English is my second language so much to my chagrin, sometimes I refrain myself to posting on certain threads as it'd take me a week to fully (or quite adequately) express my opinions. Which is a bitch.

Oh, and sometimes I also have to leave some posts unanswered due to the fact that I tend to log in while I'm at work (ahem).
I have the exact same condition. My written french is just light years ahead of it's english counterpart. Still working on it.
post #32 of 137
I have more vagina in real life.
post #33 of 137
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Originally Posted by 2.35:1
On the internet I could never get the sarcasm vibe correct so I just don't do it.
I hear ya. I'm actually witty in real life. But it's more of a quick wit that I can't seem to transfer over to typing. So I dodn't really try.
post #34 of 137
I am much more talkative than one might gather from my low post count.

Oh, and I am not really a nun.
post #35 of 137
I think I'm pretty much the same in real life as I am online. I've never really thought about what I say vs. what I type.
post #36 of 137
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Originally Posted by Sister Gracie Lou
Oh, and I am not really a nun.
There goes that fantasy...
post #37 of 137
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Originally Posted by 2.35:1
On the internet I could never get the sarcasm vibe correct so I just don't do it.
That's a good point. I'm probably a bit more sarcastic irl, but it's really hard to do that when it's just words on a screen.
post #38 of 137
In real life, my words actually come out in italics. It's kind of cool.
post #39 of 137
I'm almost constantly sarcastic in real life, and usually on-line also, although I admit I have very little idea of how much of it actually gets across.
post #40 of 137
I am almost the same in reality. Really talkative, yet quiet most of the time.

Oh, and my speech is more coherent than online.
post #41 of 137
My "real life persona" has more cowbell.
post #42 of 137
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Originally Posted by almostsexy
One of the trickiest things about the internet is that you can't hear the tone of voice in what people are saying, which is a huge cue as to whether they're joking, being sarcastic, or in dead earnest.
This is what I see asmy main failing as an internet "personality". I don't take myself too seriously and my comments (to me) are meant to (usually) be off the cuff and humorous, but I've been told I can come off condescending. I do make a point to never resort to name calling. I think I'm reasonably polite, as I am in real life.
post #43 of 137
Man, I wish I could get that quote thing to work right consistently. Does anyone else have problems with it, or am I the only idiot?
post #44 of 137
You forgot to put a / in front of "quote" in brackets at the end.
post #45 of 137
Slightly off topic, but does everyone else visualize the everybody as their avatar? This is very true for me, especially with Moltisanti.
post #46 of 137
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Yeah, Aquafresh, I've found that there's just not much you can do about the whole sarcasm/joking thing. If you joke around here with someone you don't know, maybe they'll get that you're joking, or maybe they'll think you're antagonizing them.

I find that this is especially a problem for newer posters because they're largely unknown, and the Old Guard of the site are quick to assume that they are being trolled and react unkindly.

And possibly not without reason, either. It seems like this site (I've read news here since 2000, but only started reading the message board in 2004 or 2005), has had problems with especially mean-spirited, perhaps even malevolent trolls from a rival, jealous website. So I can see how that would color the perspective of some long time posters.
post #47 of 137
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Originally Posted by soybomb42
Slightly off topic, but does everyone else visualize the everybody as their avatar? This is very true for me, especially with Moltisanti.
That's put an image in my brain that no amount of lobotomy will cure.

Wait, did you mean that he spends an inordinate amount of time 'courting' you because of your Van Damme avatar, or did you just mean that you associate him with his avatar?

The majority of sarcastic comments thrown around on this board are usually directed at someone. I always felt that was a pretty cheap way of calling someone's bullshit out, unless you do it very well and it's a valid criticism. It doesn't really matter in this case whether it's successful sarcasm or not, because the intention was to piss that particular person off, and that's usually pretty easy to do around here. You just state an opinion that differs from that person's. I know it's a gross generalisation, but I find that it's actually quite difficult to have an open-minded discussion with a person around here, because someone inevitably takes it to heart, or gets defensive that their opinion is being challenged or scrutinised.
post #48 of 137
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Originally Posted by Alex B
Wait, did you mean that he spends an inordinate amount of time 'courting' you because of your Van Damme avatar, or did you just mean that you associate him with his avatar?
I mean I picture him with sunglasses and a cigarette.

My Van Damme avatar was the first thing I could think of and find on google image search. I was gonna change it to one of those sweet European movie posters (I forget the exact country) but then a bunch of other people beat me to it and I didn't want to cramp on their style.
post #49 of 137
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Originally Posted by soybomb42
Slightly off topic, but does everyone else visualize the everybody as their avatar? This is very true for me, especially with Moltisanti.
I don't look too much like Shane from "The Shield." I look closer to Lem, but I act more like Dutch.

As for your avatar I say stick with Van Damme. If you're thinking of a change you could go with the HARD TARGET look, maybe TIMECOP.
post #50 of 137
On the net, I'm more a nerd 1st with tech geek speak and whatever.

Real life, I'm just your normal run of the mill guy. My humor online is more various and experimentary, and I use more solid stuff in the flesh.

Oh and I don't say LOL or TTYL in real. Anyone who does that gets a punch in the mamories.
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