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Trailer for "UNITED 93" (9/11) pulled after Audience Complaints

post #1 of 32
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Newsweek
If movie trailers are supposed to cause a reaction, the preview for "United 93" more than succeeds. Featuring no voice-over and no famous actors, it begins with images of a beautiful morning and passengers boarding an airplane. It takes you a minute to realize what the movie's even about. That's when a plane hits the World Trade Center. The effect is visceral. When the trailer played before "Inside Man" last week at the famed Grauman's Chinese Theatre in Hollywood, audience members began calling out, "Too soon!" In New York City, where 9/11 remains an open wound, the response was even more dramatic. The AMC Loews theater on Manhattan's Upper West Side took the rare step of pulling the trailer from its screens after several complaints. "One lady was crying," says one of the theater's managers, Kevin Adjodha. "She was saying we shouldn't have [played the trailer]. That this was wrong ... I don't think people are ready for this." We're about to find out. "United 93" is the first feature film to deal explicitly with the events of September 11, 2001, and is certain to ignite an emotional debate before and after it opens on April 28. Is it too soon? Should the film have been made at all? More to the point, will anyone want to see it? Other 9/11 projects are on the way as the fifth anniversary of the attacks approaches, most notably Oliver Stone's "World Trade Center," starring Nicolas Cage, opening Aug. 9. But as the harbinger, "United 93" will take most of the heat, whether it deserves it or not.

The real United 93 crashed in a Pennsylvania field after 40 passengers and crew fought back against the terrorists who had hijacked the plane. Writer-director Paul Greengrass ("The Bourne Supremacy") has gone to great lengths to be respectful in his depiction of what occurred, proceeding with the film only after securing the approval of every victim's family. "Was I surprised at the unanimity? Yes. Very. Usually there are one or two families who are more reluctant," Greengrass writes in an e-mail. "I was surprised and humbled at the extraordinary way the United 93 families have welcomed us into their lives and shared their experiences with us." His team's research was meticulous. "They even went so far as to ask what my mother had been wearing on the plane," says Carole O'Hare, whose 79-year-old mother, Hilda Marcin, died on the flight. "They were very open and honest with us, and they made us a part of this whole project." Universal, which is releasing the film, plans to donate 10 percent of its opening weekend gross to the Flight 93 National Memorial Fund. That hasn't stopped criticism that the studio is exploiting a national tragedy. O'Hare thinks that's unfair. "This story has to be told to honor the passengers and crew for what they did," she says. "But more than that, it raises awareness. Our ports aren't secure. Our borders aren't secure. Our airlines still aren't secure, and this is what happens when you're not secure. That's the message I want people to hear."

It's unclear whether Americans will pay $9.50 to hear it. The A&E cable movie "Flight 93" drew 5.9 million viewers in January, the highest-rated show in the channel's history. But movies are different. "I don't want anyone to go who doesn't want to have this experience," says Adam Fogelson, Universal's president of marketing. "But when I see what's on screen, I feel comfortable that a lot of people will." Audiences seem to be split on the issue. "I don't think that's a movie I really want to see," says Jackie Alvarez, 73, of San Ramon, Calif., after seeing the trailer. "It gave me the creeps. It's way too soon." But 17-year-old Antoine Richardson of Memphis, Tenn., is looking forward to it. "I don't think it's exploitative or too soon," he says. "It helps us remember." As if any of us could forget.
Is this just the start of what's to come?
post #2 of 32
I can kind of understand that when your sitting down to a movie, you might not want to see a unexpected trailer of something that really shakes you up emotionally (on a personal level) when you came for some escapist entertainment. But I don't see how that was any worse then news channels showing the acual plane hit the tower every chance they got, when the news was still fresh.
post #3 of 32
"Old people mad again! Footage at 11"

The only way anyone could reason this as exploitive was if they (were morons) felt that film was only meant to be a mindless experience. So I could see how most people (idiots) could get uncomfortable about this.
post #4 of 32
It's a very well done trailer.

Having lived in NY on 9/11/01, I can say that the images are still brutal to watch. I trust Paul Greengrass, and the film looks strong.

I can only imagine the visceral impact of seeing this on the big screen, however.
post #5 of 32
I don't want to see it. Will anyone?
post #6 of 32
I will. Really looking forward to it actually.
post #7 of 32
It doesn't surprise me that people are getting in a fuss over the trailer. What I don't get is people who get upset over the image of the plane, but I still see the impact footage ALL OF THE TIME on CNN or my local news. It's drummed up anytime that we as Americans "need" to "remember" it to justify any political situation that begs for emotional manipulation. It's admittedly hard for me to watch sometimes, because 9/11 was a very emotionally devestating day for me - but I can't even fathom the horror and pain felt by the people actually in New York City and the surrounding areas. It's a touchy line, but from what I've heard from Devin and the like is that it is in no way exploitative.

And yes, I will see it as soon as I can.
post #8 of 32
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Originally Posted by JGButler
I will. Really looking forward to it actually.
I don't think I can say I am actually "looking forward" to it, but I certainly am intrigued in learning more about the events and think Greengrass can pull it off, especially considering how heart-wrenching Bloody Sunday was.

As for the trailer being pulled, I am certainly not surprised. They'd be better off playing the 3-minute "A Look Inside" featurette immediately following the trailer.
post #9 of 32
Based on his previous work. Greengrass already has my interest in seeing this played out.

I haven't seen the new trailer for the film, so I can't address whether or not it's difficult to watch. I know those images from 9/11 will be something I'll never forget and I'm not sure how I will react to this film. But I still want to see it.
post #10 of 32
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Originally Posted by moovyphreak
I don't think I can say I am actually "looking forward" to it, but I certainly am intrigued in learning more about the events and think Greengrass can pull it off, especially considering how heart-wrenching Bloody Sunday was.
Yeah, that's the long-form of what I meant by "looking forward." I'm not anticipating this thing with glee or anything. I know how hard it's going to be to watch. Maybe I should say I "welcome" it, as opposed to "really looking forward."
post #11 of 32
I am looking forward to United 93, all signs seem to indicate that it will be a great, powerful film. BUT - and I hadn't thought about it until this thread - I'm worried about what the audience in the theater will do. I know CHUD's had many a rant about annoyances in theaters, but if people are talking on cell phones and throwing popcorn and cracking jokes during this, well, I wouldn't be surprised if we hear about something really unfortunate happening in a theater somewhere.
post #12 of 32
I remember a story about some kids who were laughing during "Schindler's List" and were banned from the theater cause of it.

I echo the sentiment and hope that the audience is mature and silent during the film. All films, as a matter of fact.
post #13 of 32
"Welcome" is an excellent choice of word.

I too welcome the film. As horrifying as that morning was, the next couple of months resonated not just with grief but with possibility and potential — something really important had happened, something significant that had clearly rocked everybody and everything out of their comfortable habits and assumptions, and you could feel that there was a serious opportunity available to change things, really change things, in this fucked-up world.

But then the politicians started lining up, from both sides of the aisle, to pull their usual "it's about me! and my usual agenda" nonsense, and very quickly we fell back into same-old same-old: Profiteers Inc. beat our plowshares into swords, and Bleedingheart Ltd. disappeared up their own self-absorbed buttholes. Grrr.

It hasn't even been five years, and it feels like people haven't just forgotten what that day was really about — they've deliberately tried to forget, to push aside the fear and uncertainty they felt that Tuesday morning by glomming on to the same ridiculously simplistic drivel spouted by so-called leaders who are interested in the one and only thing they've always been interested in: consolidating their own power.

I really want some strong artists with integrity to grab hold of that day and wrest it back from the politicos who circled it and pissed all over it, and to remind us where our focus should be: the real people who actually lived through it, who suffered and sacrified and whose lives hold the greatest lessons for all of us. My fingers are tightly crossed that Mr. Greengrass proves to be such an artist.

Don't fuck it up, Paul. Please. Don't fuck it up.
post #14 of 32
Let's see, a positive movie about the people on that flight. A respected filmmaker. Almost five years of time and countless bits of media on Sept. 11. No effort to make it look like escapism but rather a sobering look at what "might" have happened. A film done with full participation and all materials furnished for their research.

Yeah, sounds like a major fiasco.

People who complain like that are fucking fools. Plain and simple. If they lost their closest companion they have no right to fight this, because this isn't an attempt to peel back the curtain and reveal some conspiracy and it's not sensationalism like so many of the "heartfelt" documentaries that sprang up in the wake of the event. Plus, anyone whose loved ones were lost already know and have approved the release of this film. I think so at least. To get up in arms in April of 2006 is bullshit. Unless this was a film that says the plane crashed because of alien attacks, pilot error, or because a Muslim with a pellet gun shot it down from a treehouse.

"Too soon". That's a load. It's very easy to be very emotionally harrowed by the events that happened and still be open-minded. People who raise a stink like that, while having the right to do so in this nation, are doing it because it's simply the most they're willing to do to have a voice. They didn't make an effort when the film was announced or followed the piles of information about this kind of stuff, Oliver Stone's pic, that movie 'The Men' or whatever, and numerous other stuff.

Complaining like this is the act of the lazy. Instant results, but well after anything meaningful can be done. Assholes.
post #15 of 32
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Originally Posted by thejumbo
I remember a story about some kids who were laughing during "Schindler's List" and were banned from the theater cause of it.
I thought Spielberg visited those kids.

Who would have thought New Yorkers would be the ones to say too soon? I say about time. WW2 and Vietnam movies were made right away if not during. The trailer looks great.

I'm waiting for the movie that shows what the terrorists were doing leading up to 9/11.
post #16 of 32
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Originally Posted by Cervaise
I really want some strong artists with integrity to grab hold of that day and wrest it back from the politicos who circled it and pissed all over it, and to remind us where our focus should be: the real people who actually lived through it, who suffered and sacrified and whose lives hold the greatest lessons for all of us. My fingers are tightly crossed that Mr. Greengrass proves to be such an artist.

Don't fuck it up, Paul. Please. Don't fuck it up.
As was recommended to me - watch Bloody Sunday. It will alleviate any doubts you may have. Did for me anyway.
post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson
I haven't seen the new trailer for the film, so I can't address whether or not it's difficult to watch. I know those images from 9/11 will be something I'll never forget and I'm not sure how I will react to this film. But I still want to see it.
Here's the trailer in question.
post #18 of 32
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Originally Posted by Mr_Cellophane

And yes, I will see it as soon as I can.
I thought you were departing into the French ether sir?
post #19 of 32
As soon as I can, which will be once I return. I will see it as soon as I can.
post #20 of 32
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Originally Posted by Mr_Cellophane
As soon as I can, which will be once I return. I will see it as soon as I can.
That is a shame...I thought I was going to be able to keep all the porn and Charles Bronson pencil sketches I am going to send you.
post #21 of 32
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Originally Posted by Desert_Squirrel
audience members began calling out, "Too soon!" In New York City
Didn't mention exactly when it WOULD be OK to show it though, did they?

Bloody typical...
post #22 of 32
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Originally Posted by Nick Nunziata
Complaining like this is the act of the lazy. Instant results, but well after anything meaningful can be done. Assholes.
Amen.
post #23 of 32
It's hard to not tense up during this trailer, particularly if you're a New Yorker. Finally seeing the original "Flight 93" trailer in the theaters made me visibly sweat, despite it being sandwiched foolishly between "The Benchwarmers" and "Nacho Libre". While I think the people acting up about seeing the new (and fairly gripping) trailer in theaters are assholes, I can completely understand their wholly visceral reaction.

Universal in in an interesting position, because form a commercial standpoint, pulling the trailer will only increase interest. My worst fear, however, are those who feel it's "too soon" and "tasteless" refusing to stay home and instead causing a scene for those in the theaters. While they shouldn't be uninformed about the movie's contents (and in the end, they should see it), going to the movie and acting a fool about your own insecurities is devastating.

And, as I've found myself impossible to avoid in every thread I've been in today, having just seen the "Larry the Cable Guy" movie, these people are fighting against the wrong movies.
post #24 of 32
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
Who would have thought New Yorkers would be the ones to say too soon? I say about time. WW2 and Vietnam movies were made right away if not during. The trailer looks great.
Exactly. Seriously, one of the best ways to deal with a tragedy is to talk about it an dthis kind of film will start discussion...and it' s about fucking time people started talking about 9/11 in terms beyond rhetoric.
post #25 of 32
We live in a medicated society where the message we receive constantly is "If something bothers you, ignore it." More people today are content to just play dumb instead of acknowleding any grief or hardship.
post #26 of 32
Although I'm concerned about the possible amount of hand-held camera 'usage' in this film, this looks like a very poweful movie. This has certainly been a year for powerful movies. And it's only April.
post #27 of 32
It's pretty much on my list to see, mainly because Greengrass has already shown how capable of a filmmaker he is already (I'm thinking Bloody Sunday than Supremacy). Nick summed it up better than I could:

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Originally Posted by Nunziata
Let's see, a positive movie about the people on that flight. A respected filmmaker. Almost five years of time and countless bits of media on Sept. 11. No effort to make it look like escapism but rather a sobering look at what "might" have happened. A film done with full participation and all materials furnished for their research.
post #28 of 32
Trailer definitely punched me in the gut. Well done, I welcome this as well.
post #29 of 32
finally saw the trailer on keith olbermann tonite and it definitely was something. movies showing altruism always get to me for some reason. and you can't get much more altruistic than what those people did. i think if universal wanted to avoid any uneasiness they may have with this movie, then they should just include in the trailer a line saying the movie was pre-approved by all the family members of the people on the flight. i think a lot of complaining moviegoers would shut-up if they saw that.
post #30 of 32
And yet my complaints about the White Chicks trailer fell on deaf ears.
post #31 of 32
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Originally Posted by JGButler
As was recommended to me - watch Bloody Sunday. It will alleviate any doubts you may have. Did for me anyway.
Actually, that's one of the reasons I'm choosing to hope for the best, rather than joining those who prematurely label it a work of exploitation. I mean, imagine if Michael Bay were directing this. Or Ron Howard. Or Tom Shadyac.

Or Oliver Stone. Hey waitaminnit.

Point is, it could be so, so worse, and it sounds like we're on the same wavelength.

Along those lines, did you see Omagh? Greengrass produced and co-wrote. Another adaptation of a true-life tragedy, and a further indication of the direction he might be taking United 93. Well worth seeing on its own merits.
post #32 of 32
I saw a little making of Flight 93 before Slither and I have to say, it really got to me. The interviews with Greengrass and the victim's family members plus some scenes from the movie really quieted the audience and got their attention. No one in my theater had an angry reaction, but it was a pretty somber one. I don't know what people have to bitch about when all the families agreed to the film and wanted it made. It's going to be interesting to see how all of it plays out.I do want to see this movie, but I know it's going to fuck me up and I'd kind of rather wait for the DVD and do my blubbering in private.
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