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post #1 of 33
4/11/06 at 2:41pm
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THE HELLRAISER CHRONICLES: A QUESTION OF FAITH

A half hour Hellraiser film filmed in the UK by a group of professional film-makers.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0496614/

# This half-hour short film was produced as a showcase piece to promote a Hellraiser television series. Inspired by the graphic novels, it based its ideas around a different story taking place within the Hellraiser universe, all connected to the films. This one did not feature Pinhead, although some of the 13 treatments written did contain him or other characters from the series.

# Mis-information about this film was accidentally released onto the Internet shortly after filming wrapped. Somebody misheard a discussion during an animation event in which he thought it was said that the entire film was animated. Soon there were reports all over Internet horror sites that an animated Hellraiser TV series was in the works. The movie actually has a stop-motion animated opening sequence.

# The popularity and success of this short has inspired fans to have a go at making their own Hellraiser short films. While this was in post production, Hellraiser SFX artist Gary J. Tunnicliffe made a short called 'No More Souls', but there are at this point at least four Hellraiser fans either developing or shooting their own movies. One of them is going to be another 'Chronicles' entry.

I'll have a wide selection of images from this film to put up soon. Needless to say, this film is fantastic and hopefully it will become widely available.


- Scarecrow
post #2 of 33
4/11/06 at 2:42pm
I wish fan filmmakers would have the shit sued out of them.
post #3 of 33
4/11/06 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by devincf
I wish fan filmmakers would have the shit sued out of them.
Why?
post #4 of 33
4/11/06 at 2:49pm
Not wanting to sound facetious, but if they're professional filmmakers, why is this film their only credit?
post #5 of 33
4/11/06 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by Russ Fischer
Why?
I am driven nuts by the idea of someone spending hours and hours and tons of dollars (even a low budget film costs a bundle) just to make a new Batman adventure or something. Be original and creative. It's one thing when you're 14 to be fucking around with cameras and doing a "Hellraiser" film, it's a whole other thing when you're an adult.
post #6 of 33
4/11/06 at 3:01pm
From the review on IMDB:

"...it's was quite nice to see a relatively well known theatre face like Benjamin Humphrey playing a nasty piece of work. "

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2111655/

Uh, you mean familiar to you because you're one of his friends or you worked on the film with him?
post #7 of 33
4/11/06 at 3:06pm
Devin is on fucking fire today!
post #8 of 33
4/11/06 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by devincf
From the review on IMDB:

"...it's was quite nice to see a relatively well known theatre face like Benjamin Humphrey playing a nasty piece of work. "

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2111655/

Uh, you mean familiar to you because you're one of his friends or you worked on the film with him?
Geez, what's with everyone round these parts? Is there no positivity in horror circles these days?

Check your facts before commenting, this is a UK film. And here in the UK theatre is, you know, ACTUAL theatre, and cinemas are cinemas. A cinema you go to see a movie, a theatre you go to see a play acted before you. Hence he's a stage actor. Not my review btw.

As for the film-makers. Cinema, and even TV, isn't the only medium of film. They all have a career built around making short films, being hired out, making promotional pieces and others.

What is it with the ammount of negativity amongst horror fans these days?

- Scarecrow
post #9 of 33
4/11/06 at 3:44pm
I figured his extensive theatrical background may have been mentioned in his trivia bio, but I guess they only had room for "His dad is a marathon runner."
post #10 of 33
4/11/06 at 3:52pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devincf
I figured his extensive theatrical background may have been mentioned in his trivia bio, but I guess they only had room for "His dad is a marathon runner."
At any rate if you don't LIKE fanfilms why post on a thread about them?

I'm just letting people know that there's a Hellraiser fan film out there, it may be distributed and that those who are interested in the Hellraiser series have something they might like to see.


- Scarecrow
post #11 of 33
4/11/06 at 7:03pm
This series has the potential to be really cool as their is quite a bit in the Hellraiser world and mythology that could be explored.
But I agree with Devin, I generally tend to fucking hate fan films. A lot of people tend to use them as things to put on a reel to show off their skills. I know someone, possibly the biggest Batman fan in the fucking world, who made a Batman short film for while he was in film school. He spent something like 5 grand on this thing and it ended up being one of the worst pieces of shit I've ever seen. He still thinks it's great and wants to send it off to WarnerBrothers.
One of the problems with these deluded fucks is that they can't even be remotely objective and except any kind of criticism. Morons.
post #12 of 33
4/12/06 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by AssClown
This series has the potential to be really cool as their is quite a bit in the Hellraiser world and mythology that could be explored.
But I agree with Devin, I generally tend to fucking hate fan films. A lot of people tend to use them as things to put on a reel to show off their skills. I know someone, possibly the biggest Batman fan in the fucking world, who made a Batman short film for while he was in film school. He spent something like 5 grand on this thing and it ended up being one of the worst pieces of shit I've ever seen. He still thinks it's great and wants to send it off to WarnerBrothers.
One of the problems with these deluded fucks is that they can't even be remotely objective and except any kind of criticism. Morons.
Look at Sandy Collora. The guy blows every single penny on fan films or even worse... Fan TRAILERS. THAT one I can't get my head around. Making a TRAILER for a movie that doesn't exist. The one for "Worlds Finest" was shit-on-toast. Batman: Dead End was cool, but I think it was only for the surprise cameos by the Xenomorphs and Predators.

The poor guy who blew his lottery earnings on the Grayson trailer... That guy is a colonmonkey. Grayson was shit shit shit, and the only thing worth noting was how hot Kim Page was in the vinyl pants.
post #13 of 33
4/12/06 at 10:41am
People make trailers because trailers are inherently used to attract interest in a project. They're also cheaper to make than full-length films. People use trailers, especially in showreels, because they're short and they get the point of their skills across.

It makes sense in this world.
post #14 of 33
4/12/06 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by AssClown
This series has the potential to be really cool as their is quite a bit in the Hellraiser world and mythology that could be explored.
But I agree with Devin, I generally tend to fucking hate fan films. A lot of people tend to use them as things to put on a reel to show off their skills. I know someone, possibly the biggest Batman fan in the fucking world, who made a Batman short film for while he was in film school. He spent something like 5 grand on this thing and it ended up being one of the worst pieces of shit I've ever seen. He still thinks it's great and wants to send it off to WarnerBrothers.
One of the problems with these deluded fucks is that they can't even be remotely objective and except any kind of criticism. Morons.
Somehow, I don't think I'd accept any kind of criticism coming from you, either.
post #15 of 33
4/12/06 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
Somehow, I don't think I'd accept any kind of criticism coming from you, either.
I don't think he uses 'Assclown' on his headed paper.
post #16 of 33
4/12/06 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by Charlie Brigden
People make trailers because trailers are inherently used to attract interest in a project. They're also cheaper to make than full-length films. People use trailers, especially in showreels, because they're short and they get the point of their skills across.

It makes sense in this world.

Yeah, great, for an original film you're trying to get funding for. Not for some Batman meets Judge Dredd wankfest.
post #17 of 33
4/12/06 at 11:13am
This coming from the guy who once said if you didn't like that Raiders recreation film you "have no soul".
post #18 of 33
4/12/06 at 11:31am
Those were kids.

"It's one thing when you're 14 to be fucking around with cameras and doing a "Hellraiser" film, it's a whole other thing when you're an adult."

From my second post in this thread. Reading is fundamental, Bobby.
post #19 of 33
4/12/06 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by devincf
Yeah, great, for an original film you're trying to get funding for. Not for some Batman meets Judge Dredd wankfest.
You read my screenplay!
post #20 of 33
4/12/06 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by devincf
Those were kids.

"It's one thing when you're 14 to be fucking around with cameras and doing a "Hellraiser" film, it's a whole other thing when you're an adult."

From my second post in this thread. Reading is fundamental, Bobby.
You have no soul.
post #21 of 33
4/19/06 at 6:18pm
Fanboys should learn from Sandy Collora.

Look, that guy spent about 50 grand on his Batman and Superman wankfests. Got lots of attention. What was next?

A high profile comic movie like .. Batman Begins? No?

A low budget comic movie like .. Man-Thing? Not even that?

Anything?

Last time I saw that guy he was cleaning toilets at McDonalds.
post #22 of 33
4/19/06 at 7:24pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Myers
Fanboys should learn from Sandy Collora.

Look, that guy spent about 50 grand on his Batman and Superman wankfests. Got lots of attention. What was next?

A high profile comic movie like .. Batman Begins? No?

A low budget comic movie like .. Man-Thing? Not even that?

Anything?

Last time I saw that guy he was cleaning toilets at McDonalds.
The filming of QoF took place in 2003 but the editing took ages because the guy behind it was constantly busy on other jobs. Jobs involving film, not McDonalds. Maybe, you know, it was done for the fun of it. He's made two original horror shorts as well, both of which are excellent.


- Scarecrow
post #23 of 33
4/20/06 at 5:57am
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On the off chance that ANYONE's interested, here's a selection of images from the film. Yes it's low budget and I'm sure some people wil lrip it to shreds but hey, for those with a sense of fun and creativity...


















- Scarecrow
post #24 of 33
4/20/06 at 11:05am
I was just wondering if it's getting distributed with any money involved, do property licensors Dimension know about it ?

Good luck with getting it seen and circulated and everything (have you tried the UK Frightfest ?), but if I were Clive Barker, I'd be demanding at last the $1 Stephen King asks or people to use his creations for their own endeavours.

The location for Florence is very dramatic looking. Nice. But the rest of it looks like it was shot by an awful photographer - I think you need some fill light to bleed out the shadows obviously cast by your primary light source. Please don't think I'm being too nitpicky but you did say this was made by professional filmmakers in the first post, didn't you ?
post #25 of 33
4/20/06 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by Scarecrow
Yes it's low budget and I'm sure some people wil lrip it to shreds but hey, for those with a sense of fun and creativity...
You're not making any friends with that sort of bitchiness.

Nice make-up, but I've made nicer looking shots and I'm a rank amatuer.

And please don't sign your posts.

- Andrew Clarke
post #26 of 33
4/20/06 at 1:15pm
That last shot makes it look like a crossover with Lynch's DUNE.
post #27 of 33
4/20/06 at 3:38pm
Or City of Villains.
post #28 of 33
4/20/06 at 4:02pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Clarke
You're not making any friends with that sort of bitchiness.

Nice make-up, but I've made nicer looking shots and I'm a rank amatuer.

And please don't sign your posts.

- Andrew Clarke
Wasn't meant to be bitchy, but some people do seem to just want to attack the film for no reason other than it's based off of Hellraiser. It's not like there's any direct connection beyond the Lament Configuration and a Cenobite (which is itself an original design).

At any rate, despite what some people seem to be implying I had NOTHING to do with the making of the film. I'm just helping let other horror fans hear about it, in case they are interested. It will be made avialable to the public eventually, one way or the other.


- Scarecrow
post #29 of 33
4/20/06 at 4:08pm
So you're just shilling for the crappy Pinhead fanfic.

Okay, I get it now.
post #30 of 33
4/20/06 at 4:14pm
*gasp*
post #31 of 33
4/21/06 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by Brad Millette
So you're just shilling for the crappy Pinhead fanfic.

Okay, I get it now.
I'd love to hear where you got a copy to view in order to judge it as "crappy".

But then if you had seen it you'd be aware that Pinhead has nothing to do woth this film.


- Scarecrow
post #32 of 33
4/21/06 at 3:13pm
Oh, okay. I'll amend that.

*REWIND!*

So you're just shilling for the crappy magic torture box fanfic.

Okay, I get it now.
post #33 of 33
4/21/06 at 3:19pm
We get the message. Someone (completely unrelated to yourself) has made a half-hour Hellraiser movie. There is a horror movie website connected to this message board, you know. I suggest if you really want to help "spread the word" that you send the details to either Alex, Greg or myself and we'll decide if it's news or not.

Because just using the message board as free advertising - and then getting all uppity when people don't fawn over your every word - isn't the best way to build goodwill.
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