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Ben Roethlisberger injured in accident

post #1 of 109
Thread Starter 
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/trib.../s_457685.html

He was on his bike or moped--whatever he has--and didn't have his helmet on. They have shut down the bridge where it took place, which is never a good thing.
post #2 of 109
I'm not seeing this anywhere else online. Figured ESPN would have something up by now.

Keep us informed, guys.
post #3 of 109
Thread Starter 
Another story on it:

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...67/detail.html

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A witness told Channel 4 Action News that Roethlisberger went over the handlebars, hit the windshield of another vehicle and then hit the ground.
post #4 of 109
Jesus christ. I'm in Pittsburgh and it's all over the news right now. He wasn't wearing a helmet either. No definite news as to his condition.

Not good.
post #5 of 109
From CBS Sportsline:

The Steelers have confirmed to multiple media outlets in Pittsburgh that Ben Roethlisberger was involved in a motorcycle accident Monday morning. The extent of the QB's injuries are not known at this time.

And closing down a bridge or street could just mean there's a lot of debris all over. It could also mean they're bringing in a chopper.
post #6 of 109
Or keeping the media out.
post #7 of 109
ESPN Bottom Line just had a crawl which said that Roethlisberger's motorcycle collided with a car and his head hit the windshield, but John Clayton reports that the injuries are not life-threatening.

EDIT: Link

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830
post #8 of 109
I like it when my franchise quarterback rides around on a motorcycle without a helmet.
post #9 of 109
I love the links at the bottom of the story from the Pittsburgh Channel. I'll never understand people as long as I live. Of course I hope he's fine, but how stupid can you be?
post #10 of 109
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In the past, he has publicly said he prefers to ride helmetless, which is legal in Pennsylvania.
Hmm...
post #11 of 109
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Originally Posted by kingcujoI
I like it when my franchise quarterback rides around on a motorcycle without a helmet.
As a fan of team who lost a player to a motorcycle accident last year (Browns/Winslow), I am curious to see how the Steelers handle this. I know that Ben spoke for players being able to ride bikes (in interviews during the Winslow mess) and he is a MUCH higher profile player, but if he can't play next this year - do they try and get money back since he violated his contract.

As much as I am not a fan of the Steelers, I feel bad for Ben. I hope that he is okay, lives a healthy long life - but maybe misses next season.
post #12 of 109
Yes... I was simply pointing this out to everyone.
post #13 of 109
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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson
Hmm...
He is very outspoken about his ability/desire to ride his bike.
post #14 of 109
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Originally Posted by Brian Wehman
He is very outspoken about his ability/desire to ride his bike.
If I were the ownership I would very outspoken about my desire to trade for a quarterback who wouldn't pull a Jay Williams/Kellen Winslow Jr.
post #15 of 109
hope the kat's all right, but jeez. what fucking stupid thing to be doing.
post #16 of 109
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kingcujoI
I like it when my franchise quarterback rides around on a motorcycle without a helmet.
That's cuz he is a fucking meathead
post #17 of 109
Two words-Jay Williams.

These NFL guys do have contracts that say motorcycles are no-no's. I hope he's ok but also hope he's hurt just enough to miss some training camp.

Or one of his teammates smash up any other bikes he has.

These guys will never learn though.
post #18 of 109
Even though I'm a hardcore Ravens fan, this brings me no satisfaction. I feel sorry for the guy, but damn, wear a frigging helmet you moron.
post #19 of 109
Way to pull a Busey, Ben!
post #20 of 109
12:46 EST




Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was injured in a motorcycle crash Monday morning and taken to a hospital.

"He was alert and conscious," said Ernie Roman, shift commander for the Allegheny County emergency service.



Steelers Dave Lockett, outside Mercy Hospital, confirmed the accident but did not provide additional details.

In only his second year in the NFL, Roethlisberger helped guide the Steelers to the Super Bowl championship last season.

Calls to Roethlisberger's agent, Leigh Steinberg, were not immediately returned.

The 24-year-old Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding his motorcycle. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional.

In May 2005, Steelers coach Bill Cowher lectured Roethlisberger on the dangers of riding without a helmet.

"He talked about being a risk-taker and I'm not really a risk-taker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."
post #21 of 109
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Originally Posted by Seemill
Even though I'm a hardcore Ravens fan, this brings me no satisfaction. I feel sorry for the guy, but damn, wear a frigging helmet you moron.
I do feel bad for him, as a crash of any type is horrible - and as a rider I realize that at any given time a car can not see you and end your life. The majority of bike crashes are the result of a car not seeing you.

Also, I will defend him in some part against the K2 and Jay Williams arguments. While I don't know how fast Ben was going, Williams was speeding on a crotch rocket (not that they are less safe, but people seem to turn into idiots as soon as they sit on one) that was fairly new to him. K2 was doing nose wheelies in a parking lot on a crotch rocket that was brand new to him. Ben is a very experienced rider, who knows exactly how to handle a motorcycle, so I would imagine his accident is probably mot as much his fault.

However, even if its not his fault - I remember how adamant he was about riding his bike and not wearing a helmet during the K2 interviews - and I think you should always ride with a helmet - so some of this is on him.

I do think that Steelers ownership will take it somewhat easy on him, because he wasn't being a daredevil (so far as we know).

Update: Just heard a report of a broken jaw. No clue if that's true, but one of the rumors floating around.
post #22 of 109
It's bad enough to not wear a helmet. It's an order of magnitude worse to then publicly speak on the joys of motorcycle riding without wearing a helmet, unless it's to say "I'm a complete XXXXing moron, don't do what I'm doing."

Of course, if my tax dollars didn't go to subsidize the medical care of those who consciously decide to be "risk-takers", I'd probably care less.
post #23 of 109
I don't blame him... He'd look pretty silly wearing his work clothes while riding.
post #24 of 109
Take that, helmet safety laws! This is America, and if I want head trauma, it's my God-given right. It's in the constitution.

I do feel bad though, and I hope he's okay. Connecticut doesn't have helmet laws either, and it's so strange to see people doing 80 without a helmet on something that won't even stay upright without a kickstand.

Should people be forced to wear helmets? I don't know. Common sense alone should make it a moot point. On the other hand, it's natural selection at its finest.
post #25 of 109
I like the " I'm not a risk-taker" mentality.

Because we all know accidents happens only if you take risks...
post #26 of 109
From the AP newswire:
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The Associated Press reported a silver Chrysler New Yorker with damage to the front passenger fender was removed and Roethlisberger's bike was loaded onto a flatbed truck
Introducing the least favorite person in PGH!
post #27 of 109
Apparently the car had Maine plates and was driven by a woman.

*Insert woman driver joke here*

According to the news, he's in serious but stable condition and is currently in surgery.

No other details have been released so far.
post #28 of 109
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Originally Posted by Scratch
Should people be forced to wear helmets? I don't know. Common sense alone should make it a moot point. On the other hand, it's natural selection at its finest.
Folks can decide not to wear helmets when they have a 10K bond posted with the state to cover the administrative cost of investigating their deaths/serious injuries and when they sign a waiver indicating that the state and/or hospitals will not have to subsidize their medical care with free treatment.

I don't wish Roethlisberger any harm, but it is far, far overdue that helmet laws be implemented in every state. If this gets us closer, so be it.
post #29 of 109
Scenes from the accident:

Pic 1
Pic 2

(if the links don't work, ctrl-F5 'em)

I figured he'd be more of a Harley guy (maybe he is...just was out on his crotch-rocket today or something).
post #30 of 109
Is it to soon to start calling him Ben Toothlessberger??
post #31 of 109
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Originally Posted by Overlord
Folks can decide not to wear helmets when they have a 10K bond posted with the state to cover the administrative cost of investigating their deaths/serious injuries and when they sign a waiver indicating that the state and/or hospitals will not have to subsidize their medical care with free treatment.

I don't wish Roethlisberger any harm, but it is far, far overdue that helmet laws be implemented in every state. If this gets us closer, so be it.
It makes no sense to me that there is a nation-wide seatbelt law, but no nation-wide helmet law. Also, the car being from Maine makes me suspect Tom Brady. Not really.
post #32 of 109
Don't motorcyclists pay for insurance like everybody else? If they want to not wear helmets, up their premiums by a couple of hundred dollars. That "I wanna be free" attitude will most likely lose out to the "I'd like to eat" attitude.
post #33 of 109
From http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com...067/detail.html

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According to a police source, Roethlisberger suffered a broken jaw, broke his left sinus cavity, suffered a 9-inch laceration to the back of his head, lost many teeth and has severe injuries to his knees from hitting the pavement.
Ouch.

"Severe injuries to his knees" can mean a lot of different things but none of them can be making Steelers fans happy right about now.
post #34 of 109
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
Don't motorcyclists pay for insurance like everybody else? If they want to not wear helmets, up their premiums by a couple of hundred dollars. That "I wanna be free" attitude will most likely lose out to the "I'd like to eat" attitude.
This needs to be done with laws, as by law they typically receive free medical care when they are catastrophically injured due to their own stupidity.

The requirements for liability and UIM/UM coverage need to be dramatically upped in every state for motorcycle drivers. Here in CA, allowing a motorcycle rider to have 15K liability and zero in UIM/UM is utterly asinine, and we have a helmet law! It should be a 250/250 requirement in states without a helmet law.
post #35 of 109
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti
Way to pull a Busey, Ben!
Gary Busey really hasn't suffered any ill effects, he seems just fine.
post #36 of 109
YIKES!

I thought that the Steelers would have to wait until next season for the football gods/karma payback from the officiating in the Super Bowl. This is hard core BAD. :-O
post #37 of 109
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Originally Posted by Carl Cunningham
YIKES!

I thought that the Steelers would have to wait until next season for the football gods/karma payback from the officiating in the Super Bowl. This is hard core BAD. :-O
Yeah, but you liked Attack of the Clones.
post #38 of 109
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Originally Posted by B_MetalSucks
Is it to soon to start calling him Ben Toothlessberger??
Not in Baltimore. Feel free to say that as much as you want here. Provided he doesn't die or something of course.
post #39 of 109
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Originally Posted by Overlord
Yeah, but you liked Attack of the Clones.
And our punishment for that was Revenge of the Sith.
post #40 of 109
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Originally Posted by Carl Cunningham
Big Ben's Blood... coming soon to eBay:

The crash happened at an intersection at the edge of downtown at about 11:30 a.m. A pool of blood was still visible there by early afternoon

Yowza!
post #41 of 109
Weird... Carl's original post just disappeared.
post #42 of 109
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Originally Posted by Brian Wehman
Also, I will defend him in some part against the K2 and Jay Williams arguments. While I don't know how fast Ben was going, Williams was speeding on a crotch rocket (not that they are less safe, but people seem to turn into idiots as soon as they sit on one) that was fairly new to him. K2 was doing nose wheelies in a parking lot on a crotch rocket that was brand new to him. Ben is a very experienced rider, who knows exactly how to handle a motorcycle, so I would imagine his accident is probably mot as much his fault.
I think if The guy has a broken jaw we can put him in the k2/Jay williams category.
Profesional athletes need to minimize risks when they are being paid so much. Bikes and skiing are automatically out. You can get hurt at many things, but these can end careers.

Big Ben seemed like a team guy too so I'm surprised he'd ride when even the most experienced bikers take falls.

*The ESPN interview don't know if it was posted
and he gives the typical answer
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ESPN: Jamie Henderson was just out riding, had an accident, and was in a coma, so how do you manage the risk?

Roethlisberger: Well it's just like everything else. You can get injured and killed in a car, too. You can get killed walking down the street. You have to know what you're doing, and I'm not saying anyone didn't know what they were doing, but it's a risk and being in life is a risk.
Riding a bike and walking down the street aren't even close to being the same thing.
post #43 of 109
You know, Bill Cowher is on the cover of the EA Head Coach game that's coming out. A new curse!!!
post #44 of 109
What a dipstick. You'd think the constant media-attention to his helmetless riding would be enough for him to reconsider, but no. Guess this means I won't miss anything if I leave the TV off for the next few days though.

I love this town but they're already acting like Kennedy's been shot.
post #45 of 109
What an absolute dumbass.
post #46 of 109
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Originally Posted by Andrew Ellis
Guess this means I won't miss anything if I leave the TV off for the next few days though.
Couple of days? They'll be talking about this in some fashion for the next 6 months, especially before any Steelers match...
post #47 of 109
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
Profesional athletes need to minimize risks when they are being paid so much. Bikes and skiing are automatically out. You can get hurt at many things, but these can end careers.
They're under no more obligation to do so than anyone else in this country. It's amazing to me that people think playing a sport means you have to live without certain personal freedoms. Bikes and skiing can ruin anyone's career, but I don't think was talking about outlawing hitting the slopes before or after Sonny Bono's political career ended.
post #48 of 109
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Originally Posted by Guttenberg Fan Club
They're under no more obligation to do so than anyone else in this country. It's amazing to me that people think playing a sport means you have to live without certain personal freedoms. Bikes and skiing can ruin anyone's career, but I don't think was talking about outlawing hitting the slopes before or after Sonny Bono's political career ended.
I think it has to do more with contracts GFC. Many times these guys have clauses in their contracts forbidding them from certain high-risk activities off the field.
post #49 of 109
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Originally Posted by Guttenberg Fan Club
They're under no more obligation to do so than anyone else in this country. It's amazing to me that people think playing a sport means you have to live without certain personal freedoms. Bikes and skiing can ruin anyone's career, but I don't think was talking about outlawing hitting the slopes before or after Sonny Bono's political career ended.
When other people are counting on you for their livelihoods/professional success, this type of decision is profoundly selfish and short-sighted. It's not a legal or contractual obligation, it's a moral one. We're not talking about living in a bubble.....wear a helmet jackass!
post #50 of 109
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Originally Posted by Overlord
When other people are counting on you for their livelihoods/professional success, this type of decision is profoundly selfish and short-sighted. It's not a legal or contractual obligation, it's a moral one. We're not talking about living in a bubble.....wear a helmet jackass!
No one lives in a bubble. The foreman of a construction team is a huge loss to his workers, an office employee important to his co-workers, etc.

It's also profoundly selfish to think that you can tell people they can't ride a motorcycle because you like the Steelers (not you personally). I'm all for helmet laws, but don't go over the top with bullshit about restricing people from skiing or riding.
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