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Are Copy guards a myth?

post #1 of 12
6/23/06 at 2:40pm
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Some people I know are having no problem at all copying rented DVDs using DVD recorders. A friend loaned me a copy of "The Corpse Bride" he burned. Looks and sounds great. So what's up? Do copy guards not work on some equipment?
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post #2 of 12
6/23/06 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon
Some people I know are having no problem at all copying rented DVDs using DVD recorders. A friend loaned me a copy of "The Corpse Bride" he burned. Looks and sounds great. So what's up? Do copy guards not work on some equipment?
It's not the player, it's the DVD copying software. While the feds have made even the discussion of the encryption algorithms an offense ( a big fuck-you to the 1st amendment), there are still copies of DVD X out there (1st off the shelf software that could break it), as well as many alternative open-source software that can as well.
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post #3 of 12
6/23/06 at 3:31pm
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The people I know are using off the shelf equipment from Wally-Mart, and know zip about anything technical. They're just plugging a DVD player into a DVD recorder and making copies of rented DVDs.

With great deals on used DVDs I wouldn't waste time doing this. But if I could get an entire season of BSG for about $10, I just might be tempted to do this myself.
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post #4 of 12
6/23/06 at 3:45pm
It may be that the court rulings are still be in appeals, so the hardware vendors may still be able to sell recorders with the decryption software intact. Older versions sitting on store shelves probably won't be taken down until they are sold even if the rullings have been finalized. Just check the brand/model/version of one of your friends to see what one to pick up if your interested.

Not that I'm supporting any illegal activity, of course.
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post #5 of 12
6/24/06 at 8:32am
DVD Decrpyter works like a charm.
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post #6 of 12
6/25/06 at 10:27am
Hey, you're right. DVD Decrypter works like a charm. But what the hell is the next step if i want to put the VOB stuff onto a disc? merge them first?

Arg. its such a pain sometimes. i tried to get a disc onto my ipod by using DVD decryter, Merging the VOB files, then using the PSPvideo9 business to convert, and no dice.

Thanks
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post #7 of 12
7/2/06 at 12:04pm

DVD Shrink

DVD Shrink is awesome, and free provided you have nero burning software, I think only 2 discs Ive tried haven't been copyable.
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post #8 of 12
7/3/06 at 4:51am
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Originally Posted by captain_oats
Hey, you're right. DVD Decrypter works like a charm. But what the hell is the next step if i want to put the VOB stuff onto a disc? merge them first?

Arg. its such a pain sometimes. i tried to get a disc onto my ipod by using DVD decryter, Merging the VOB files, then using the PSPvideo9 business to convert, and no dice.

Thanks

Use Roxio. Open the program and it's all pretty much self-explainatory. It's the best and it's better than sex.
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post #9 of 12
7/3/06 at 4:51am
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Originally Posted by captain_oats
Hey, you're right. DVD Decrypter works like a charm. But what the hell is the next step if i want to put the VOB stuff onto a disc? merge them first?

Arg. its such a pain sometimes. i tried to get a disc onto my ipod by using DVD decryter, Merging the VOB files, then using the PSPvideo9 business to convert, and no dice.

Thanks

Use Roxio. Open the program and it's all pretty much self-explainatory. It's the best and it's better than sex.
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post #10 of 12
7/3/06 at 4:59pm
DVD shrink is great along with any burning program. I still buy discs though if I'm really wanting perfect sound and picture (sorry I got a setup).
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post #11 of 12
7/3/06 at 4:59pm
DVD shrink is great along with any burning program. I still buy discs though if I'm really wanting perfect sound and picture (sorry I got a setup).
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post #12 of 12
7/6/06 at 3:04am
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon
The people I know are using off the shelf equipment from Wally-Mart, and know zip about anything technical. They're just plugging a DVD player into a DVD recorder and making copies of rented DVDs.

With great deals on used DVDs I wouldn't waste time doing this. But if I could get an entire season of BSG for about $10, I just might be tempted to do this myself.
It sounds like they're making analog copies of the video using the audio/video outputs from the DVD player. Which mean's it's not a perfect bit-for-bit digital copy. But you are right in that somehow the Macrovision copyguard is being defeated or ignored by one or both machines. If it was working properly, you'd see the picture get all screwy (light and dark shifting of the image, etc.).
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