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Wolverine: Script review up at Latino Review

post #1 of 56
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http://latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=26

Sounds pretty good for the first act. I hope they get Brian Cox and Tyler Mane back. Four armed tattooed mutant sound stupid.
post #2 of 56
so, X2 is turning into the filmic core of the X-universe.
post #3 of 56
I'm a little surprised that they are potentially going with [SPOILER]the bone claws[SPOILER] but it could be cool.
post #4 of 56
Is it whack or is it dope?
post #5 of 56
Depends on who directs.
post #6 of 56
I noticed that that particular reviewer uses words like "whack" and "dope" a lot in other reviews, instead of normal words like "bad" and "good."
post #7 of 56
It's all on the director. Considering the names I've heard rumored (Kurt Wimmer, Len Wiseman, Ratner), I'll hold out hope.

But this is the comic movie I REALLY wanna see.
post #8 of 56
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
Len Wiseman
I'd hate to see that, but I'd rather he screw up Wolverine than John McClane.
post #9 of 56
I'd rather he fuck up warmed over remenents of a franchise that lost its punch over a decade ago rather than further continue the raping of a franchise with some bite still in it.
post #10 of 56
Benioff's a great writer so I'll reserve judgment until I see this film in a dark theater, but I don't know if I ever liked the bone claws concept. I always liked the idea that Logan's sole mutant ability was his healing power and that he was used as a military pin cushion as a result.

As far as directors go, none of the aforementioned really work for me, but the guy who did Unleashed would be a good fit.
post #11 of 56
Not to mention that most scripts are rewritten up until filming starts and further writing during filming is pretty common. This is why I have a very skeptical attitude toward script reviews.
And also, although a good script is a basic ingrediant for any good film, just because you have a good script does not mean a good film. As George CLooney said in an interview, you can take a good script and fuck it up in a million different ways during filming.
post #12 of 56
This is also the guy who RAVED about the Halo script, which was barely mediocre.
post #13 of 56
I've never gone to Latino Review for intelligent criticism, but they do score some choice scoops occasionally. I couldn't even get through this script review and stopped reading after the first spoiler.
post #14 of 56
I wonder where they get all their scripts.
post #15 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by g-dude
I'd rather he fuck up warmed over remenents of a franchise that lost its punch over a decade ago rather than further continue the raping of a franchise with some bite still in it.
Compare the 3rd movies from each franchise. Now contemplate.
post #16 of 56
Bill Sadler's bare ass > Hugh Jackman's bare ass
post #17 of 56
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti
Compare the 3rd movies from each franchise. Now contemplate.
Compare the second movie of each franchise. Now take your raging boner for all things washed up and piss off.
post #18 of 56
I'm sure you'd like to live in a world where X3 does not exist but I'm sorry junior, it does. You can keep carrying the torch that it's a sainted franchise but good luck finding anyone to help you light it.

Oh, and I don't usually like doing this but I'll make an exception. It's remnants, not remenents.
post #19 of 56
Ah, yes. The typo attack. Way to show me up, pal. Your ability to point out those little goofs has humbled me in ways only Dolph Lundgren could know.

Where the fuck did I say it was sainted? X3 bungled the X-Films, a Wolverine movie done competently with the right director could give the series some of its dignity back. It's been 13 years since the last Die Hard movie and the world isn't worse for wear. That franchise ended on a high note, and has absolutly nothing else to offer. I'm just saying that a Wolverine movie holds more promise than an aging Bruce Willis battling cyber-punks. Die Hard 4.0 is already a shitty idea, so it having a shit director isn't exactly skin off anyone's backs. Wolverine actually has some potential, so it getting bungled would be much more of a loss.
post #20 of 56
Golly.
post #21 of 56
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Originally Posted by g-dude
Where the fuck did I say it was sainted? X3 bungled the X-Films, a Wolverine movie done competently with the right director could give the series some of its dignity back. It's been 13 years since the last Die Hard movie and the world isn't worse for wear. That franchise ended on a high note, and has absolutly nothing else to offer. I'm just saying that a Wolverine movie holds more promise than an aging Bruce Willis battling cyber-punks. Die Hard 4.0 is already a shitty idea, so it having a shit director isn't exactly skin off anyone's backs. Wolverine actually has some potential, so it getting bungled would be much more of a loss.
First off it was 11 years ago since WITH A VENGEANCE, not a big deal but as usual you're a fountain of inaccuracy.

Second, you're right (don't feel all warm and glowing just yet), the world does not need another DIE HARD film. But it looks as though the people at FOX don't much care what folks on a message board believe and are going to make one anyway. If that's going to happen I'd like it to be done with a director who has some sense of being able to tell an exciting story.

So yeah, I'd rather see an entertaining film about John McClane than one following the pretty much already known story of Wolverine. Maybe once the memory of X3 begins to escape me I'll feel differently, though probably not.
post #22 of 56
I agree with g-dude in this wicked, wicked battle. But both movies if made will most likely eat a sack of crap, so it doesn't matter.
post #23 of 56
I had more hope for a Wolverine flick when it looked like it was going to take place after the tumor of X3. At this point I'm tired of knowing the complete backstories of every cinematic character. I don't care if it's Darth Vader or Carlito Brigante, generally the legend of how these characters came to be is more interesting than having it played out in its entirety on film.
post #24 of 56
Sadly I don't see a top tier director taking the helm of this. If not I fear more of the same like X3; competent studio pick makes energy-less, average film. This could be one incredibly badass film, but if we get guy with little to no imagination like Ratner, Wiseman, etc they're going to make a film as lazy as X3.

As usual Jackman's charisma is enough to make it watchable I'm sure, I'd just like them to realize that with a little creative investment, it can be more than that. How about Louis Leterrier of "Unleashed"? He's done a great job blending action and drama with some creative flair. I mean, I don't think they're picking between Michael Mann and James Cameron, so I think promising second stringers are what we should be looking for.
post #25 of 56
I'd rather see Francis Lawrence or Zach Synder. If not them perhaps Peter Berg or Florent Siri.

Someone who can bring some style and a little brutality to the proceedings.
post #26 of 56
This script...this script sounds like ass. For some reason, a "He's killing mutants" subplot just seems wrong for this movie.
post #27 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Daywalker
I'd rather see Francis Lawrence or Zach Synder. If not them perhaps Peter Berg or Florent Siri.

Someone who can bring some style and a little brutality to the proceedings.
Quite a few good names there. I think Lawrence and Snyder are going to be busy, but Siri would be a great choice.
post #28 of 56
It needs to be Fincher. He's the perfect man for the job by far.
post #29 of 56
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Originally Posted by Charlie Brigden
It needs to be Fincher. He's the perfect man for the job by far.
Something tells me Fincher is going to stay far away from any Fox franchises, especially one that's already driven one director away.
post #30 of 56
Coincidentally, my dream Wolverine director has always been Michael Mann for some reason.
post #31 of 56
Coincidentally, my dream Wolverine director has always been Michael Mann for some reason.
post #32 of 56
Michael Mann's my dream pick for everything. But notice how they couldn't even get A-list talent for "X3". They reallly hardly even tried, it was B-lister after B-lister till they finally ended up with Ratner. The best bet is to get some up and comer and give them the reigns like they very nearly did with Matthew Vaughn. Actually, can we get him?
post #33 of 56
Michael Mann's my dream pick for everything. But notice how they couldn't even get A-list talent for "X3". They reallly hardly even tried, it was B-lister after B-lister till they finally ended up with Ratner. The best bet is to get some up and comer and give them the reigns like they very nearly did with Matthew Vaughn. Actually, can we get him?
post #34 of 56
FOX will continue with their trend of giving their properties to the most vanilla choices available. I wouldn't mind a guy like Robert Rodriguez being given a project like WOLVERINE and letting him go nuts with it. But that just won't happen.
post #35 of 56
FOX will continue with their trend of giving their properties to the most vanilla choices available. I wouldn't mind a guy like Robert Rodriguez being given a project like WOLVERINE and letting him go nuts with it. But that just won't happen.
post #36 of 56
All this talk of DIE HARD makes me think they should get John McTiernan if they insist on making this. Providing he's not working on some chain gang somewhere. And bear in mind, I haven't seen any movie he's made since 1995, due to them apparently sucking rancid ass.

That said, this really doesn't need to be made. I mean, less so than most other movies, even.
post #37 of 56
All this talk of DIE HARD makes me think they should get John McTiernan if they insist on making this. Providing he's not working on some chain gang somewhere. And bear in mind, I haven't seen any movie he's made since 1995, due to them apparently sucking rancid ass.

That said, this really doesn't need to be made. I mean, less so than most other movies, even.
post #38 of 56
I'd love to see someone like Wayne Kramer on this.

But unless they hire someone to just point and shoot, no matter which director gets attached the script will likely undergo major reworking.
post #39 of 56
I'd love to see someone like Wayne Kramer on this.

But unless they hire someone to just point and shoot, no matter which director gets attached the script will likely undergo major reworking.
post #40 of 56
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Originally Posted by Dave Davis
I'd love to see someone like Wayne Kramer on this.
Exactly the type of choice I'd love to see them make. Up and comer, still hungry, great visual sense.

Quote:
But unless they hire someone to just point and shoot
...which I wouldn't put pass them since they did this exactly with Ratner and "X3". Jackman needs to step in and show some nuts as a producer in practice, not just in having his name in the credits and a greater percentage off the back end.
post #41 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Davis
I'd love to see someone like Wayne Kramer on this.
Exactly the type of choice I'd love to see them make. Up and comer, still hungry, great visual sense.

Quote:
But unless they hire someone to just point and shoot
...which I wouldn't put pass them since they did this exactly with Ratner and "X3". Jackman needs to step in and show some nuts as a producer in practice, not just in having his name in the credits and a greater percentage off the back end.
post #42 of 56
What is stopping Benioff from directing this?
post #43 of 56
What is stopping Benioff from directing this?
post #44 of 56
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Originally Posted by Fazer
What is stopping Benioff from directing this?
Common sense.
post #45 of 56
I think someone hear suggested Takeshi Kitano direct this. I doubt it could happen but, I'd like to see it.
post #46 of 56
In my eyes a Wolverine movie could work, IF:

1.) there's no Ratner
2.) the studio brings in a director that actually ADDS something to the film(I liked the idea mentioned above about bringing in Francis Lawrence)

To me Jackman was my favorite part of the 3 X-men films(even though just about everyone of his lines in X3 was cornball). He took the character of a man with metal bones and made me care about him, i.e.;

- His comment to Rougue when she asks, "Does it hurt?" He quietly, but confidently, replies, "Everytime.."

- His reaction to Jean dying in X2. Seeing such a tough guy get so emotional was great for me.

Jackman DOES need to step up creatively if he's going to produce a spinoff.
post #47 of 56
Jackman's such a nice guy and a team player that I don't think he really speaks up enough as he could, and sometimes should. He's a great campaigner, always with something exciting and upbeat to say about his films, even when outside of the first two X-Mens, they've been crap. But I think creatively he needs to get out of the "aw shucks I'm in Hollywood" outlook he sometimes seems to have, and start caring whether his movies are any good. He is absolutely iconic as Wolverine, and a great solo film makes him legendary. But a shitty, lazy spinoff starts eating away at the goodwill we've had about onscreen Wolverine. I don't want that.

He's the producer, and he needs to start throwing his weight around and acting like it.
post #48 of 56
So it looks like this will start filming in 2007, when Jackman is done with this Baz Luhrmann movie. I have to say, it's lucky he's got this coming, because what's coming up from him, aside from "Prestige" and "Fountain", doesn't sound all that promising.

A decent, thorough article about it from, of all places, VH1. http://www.vh1.com/movies/news/artic...06/story.jhtml

Disappointing that they aren't using anything from Japan. And bizarre that Brian Cox thinks the de-aging stuff in "X-Men 3" was actual makeup.
post #49 of 56
I wouldn't mind Brett Ratner doing the Wolverine movie. I liked "X-Men: The Last Stand", and I though Ratner actually did quite a good job on it. Come on guys, we could do worse.
But I think the Takesho Kitano idea is intriuguing. But to be honest, I can't think of any other Director who I like for this one...
post #50 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenStu
I wouldn't mind Brett Ratner doing the Wolverine movie. I liked "X-Men: The Last Stand", and I though Ratner actually did quite a good job on it. Come on guys, we could do worse.
Inspiring.
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