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post #1 of 34
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This always seems like the forgotten Stallone thriller. Made in the early 80’s, though displaying 70’s swagger, it holds up fairly well today thanks to its central plot of a terrorist bringing New York City to its knees. It came out just prior to FIRST BLOOD so Stallone is a long way from playing invincible super heroes and comes off more realistic in this one. His look suggests he’s going for a SERPICO vibe but everything else feels more in tune with DIRTY HARRY even though Stallone’s Deke Dasilva seems a bit more concerned with upholding rights than Harry Callahan ever did.

Aside from Stallone, the film’s main draw would be Rutger Hauer as Wulfgar. I forgot how cold blooded he was here. He’s not quite the psychotic he played in THE HITCHER, he’s more of a charming murderer in this one. The scene where Stallone first finds Hauer in a disco is full of tension as is the ensuing foot chase where Stallone and his partner (Billy Dee Williams) track their target through a subway station.

The movie ends in stellar fashion. I have a hard time picturing any of today’s leading men allowing a climax like that these days and there is no way Stallone would have done it in later years.
post #2 of 34
You watch a lot of TV.
post #3 of 34
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The primary way to watch NIGHTHAWKS in 2006 is with the use of a television. Thanks for your obsession though.
post #4 of 34
This has always been my favorite Rutger role. He's just badass in this flick. And yeah, Stallone in a dress is always funny.
post #5 of 34
I haven't seen this in a long time, but I remember liking it a lot. I liked how the Europeans came over to teach the New York police to be prepared for Wulfgar, and they get totally blown off by the cops until too late. Rutger Hauer was great in this movie. Between this, 'Blade Runner', and 'The Hitcher', he perfected the BAD GUY persona...even though all three characters were wildly different. The only complaint I really have about this movie is in the low budget feel of it, but I'm also going off of the long ago memory of the film when I say that.
post #6 of 34
Yeah, I like this film. Stallone, Williams and Hauer are all great. There's some great action and seeing Stallone dress up in drag (twice!) was amusing.

I read that Stallone directed the chase in the subway scene himself. The director couldn't make it to the location on time, so Sly directed it himself.
post #7 of 34
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At times, especially when Stallone and Williams are walking their beat, it does come of like a 70's cop show in terms of budget. But once Hauer hits NY it looks about as polished as other thrillers from that era. Hauer's attacks aren't the kind that kill hundreds but they look impressive enough. If this had been made 10 years later I'm sure they would have had him doing stuff much more spectacular but then it wouldn't have seemed as believable.
post #8 of 34
I love how on IMDB this is the photo that pops up when you click on the DVD cover:

post #9 of 34
Valid points, Molti. That was one thing that I really did like about this film...the believability of the terrorism. Nothing was too over the top. The overall sense of scale felt correct.

Now that I think about it...in a way, Rutger changes places somewhat in 'Wanted Dead or Alive'. There, HE'S chasing the visiting terrorist (Gene Simmons). As I recall, that was a pretty decent movie as well. It was probably the only attempt of mainstream hollywood to put Rutger into a leading man/hero role. He kinda faded into oblivion after that movie, only to resurface in b movies for years. It was great seeing him again in 'Batman Begins' and 'Sin City'.

Sorry, rambling a bit...that's the scotch talking.
post #10 of 34
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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson
I love how on IMDB this is the photo that pops up when you click on the DVD cover:

Is that Pig Vomit standing next to Stallone?
post #11 of 34
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I was thinking about the WANTED comparison as well. The attacks in that one were brutal but also not out of the realm of possibility as in NIGHTHAWKS. As much as I enjoy the ending to NIGHTHAWKS, Hauer pulling that pin in WANTED has it beat.
post #12 of 34
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti
I was thinking about the WANTED comparison as well. The attacks in that one were brutal but also not out of the realm of possibility as in NIGHTHAWKS. As much as I enjoy the ending to NIGHTHAWKS, Hauer pulling that pin in WANTED has it beat.
'Fuck the bonus...'

'GRENADE!!!'

Great ending indeed.
post #13 of 34
A good, solid cop thriller. If that ending were tried today they would deliberately go for laughs. Persis Khambatta deserves credit for her performance in this as well, by far the best American film she ever did.
post #14 of 34
Curiously enough, I bought it & watched it too a couple of nights before this thread, and though I wasn't as impressed as some of you guys are, the main terrorist threat seemed to me as frightfully up to date as the filmmakers wouldn't have ever believed. The training school sequences being a particular highlight as the verbal sparring between the Brit and Stallone reminded me a lot of the particular climate we're living in, of the "take those fuckers down, no matter what" variety. A scene that would have been largely discussed had the movie been released today as is that (anti)climax, brains before brawl, that seems to negate Stallone's subsequent twenty-five year career, crossdressing aside. And Serpico you say? How about that tram-hostages release, suspiciously similar to Dog Day Afternoon?

As an aside, funny how the memory works, cause after my initial viewing, maybe some 15 years ago, I totally pictured poor old Billy Dee taking the big loss after that knife in the throat. Imagine my surprise when I saw him behind that sniper rifle in a non-ghostly form.

Cause you know, "You're going to a better place", right?
post #15 of 34
This was the first movie my family ever watched on VHS. Hard to believe the same guy who directed this very good, not great thriller, was Bruce Malmuth, who a decade later gave us the cinematic classic known as Hard to Kill. What a great career.
post #16 of 34
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Originally Posted by Balmudo
This was the first movie my family ever watched on VHS. Hard to believe the same guy who directed this very good, not great thriller, was Bruce Malmuth, who a decade later gave us the cinematic classic known as Hard to Kill. What a great career.
Indeed. And you can take that to the bank.
post #17 of 34
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Originally Posted by PsycheOut00
Indeed. And you can take that to the bank.

The blood bank!
post #18 of 34
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That director died not too long ago. It wasn't like losing Kubrick but he made some solid flicks.

For some reason I also thought Williams died and not Deke's superior. Probably because it's more conventional to have the partner get clipped in these movies. I do like Williams' quiet delivery of "You should have taken the shot" while being carted into the hospital after getting his face slashed.
post #19 of 34
Definitely one of Stallone's best. I'll have to watch it again.

Wanted Dead or Alive was rather silly I think, but the ending is great. Any love for The Osterman Weekend?
post #20 of 34
Gotta love Osterman Weekend. It's insane.
post #21 of 34
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Peckinpah was pretty much on fumes for OSTERMAN. Not that great. But if you're a Craig T. Nelson completist then give it a whirl.
post #22 of 34
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti
Peckinpah was pretty much on fumes for OSTERMAN. Not that great. But if you're a Craig T. Nelson completist then give it a whirl.
I've already seen it several times. I liked it a lot (at the time). A dinner party gone insanely wrong.
post #23 of 34
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It's one of those movies that if you see it before ever watching ALFREDO GARCIA or THE WILD BUNCH you could probably enjoy. It's better than CONVOY. I'll grant it that.
post #24 of 34
I'm definitely not saying it's in the league with his truly great films, but I love a good messy, truly insane picture. This qualifies.
post #25 of 34
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti
It's one of those movies that if you see it before ever watching ALFREDO GARCIA or THE WILD BUNCH you could probably enjoy. It's better than CONVOY. I'll grant it that.
Why even compare it with those films though? I don't think directors should be chained to their past. Osterman is just a fun little thriller.
post #26 of 34
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True enough. If you forget that you're watching a great director hock up his final film then OSTERMAN has its moments.
post #27 of 34
This is a real nostalgic favorite. I was a kid when it came out and it had a gritty, bad ass feel to me back then. Of course as an adult it loses some impact, but the entire look of the film really captures that brief era between the dirt of the 70's and the gloss of the 80's. Hell, Stallone's beard is enough to capture that era for me.
Remember that movie Terror In The Aisles? Why in the fuck did they include so many Nighthawks scenes in that?
post #28 of 34
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One thing I didn't like is how through most of the film Stallone and Williams wear their regular street clothes. Then out of nowhere their whole squad stars wearing these snazzy uniforms that say ATAC (Not sure what that stood for) on them. They even had a chopper with an ATAC logo on the side. That was out of place.
post #29 of 34
ATAC: Automatic Targeting Attack Communicator.

Uh, sorry, wrong movie... though also released in 1981.

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The blood bank!
And this is The CHUD Community at its best.
post #30 of 34
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Turns out it stood for Anti-Terrorist Action Command.

Hauer was certainly a huge threat but I don't know if he was worth having to spring for all that monogrammed equipment, especially without an obligatory scene where Billy Dee Williams asks "Why do we have to wear this shit?"
post #31 of 34
NIGHTHAWKS is one of my guilty pleasures. How can you not like a mainstream film that features porn star Jamie Gillis hitting on Linsday Wagner?

And, by the way, Happy Birthday, Sly. The Big 6-0.
post #32 of 34
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Originally Posted by Keith Fordyce
This was the first movie my family ever watched on VHS. Hard to believe the same guy who directed this very good, not great thriller, was Bruce Malmuth, who a decade later gave us the cinematic classic known as Hard to Kill.
And who also was the ring announcer for the All-Valley Under 18 Karate Championships.
post #33 of 34
This is a great little flick, and I've always liked it. I got the new Universal dvd 2 summers ago, and it's great to see Sly with Joe Spinell, although I believe it was their last movie together, it was no less cool seeing Joe Spinell play a good guy for once, and in a pretty big supporting role no less. The use of the tape at the end to distract Persis Khambatta was genius.
post #34 of 34

This is my favorite Stallone movie with First Blood a close second. This was when Sly was still trying to actually, you know, ACT before he became a cartoon. In Nighthawks he comes off as an average guy just doing his job (ala Bruce Willis in Die Hard) which makes his character appealing as we can identify with him more than the roided out meathead he later became. The thing I love most about this movie is that it's one of the last vestiges of truly gritty 1970's style New York urban thrillers before MTV took hold - both MTV and Nighthawks premiered in 1981 and, most importantly, MTV premiered on August 1st, the same day that Paddy "Network" Chayefsky died! - while it's awesome that Joe Spinell and Jamie Gillis made appearences which showed that Stallone had a taste for exploitation. I also think it's a nice coincidence that this movie shares the name of Edward Hopper's most famous painting.

 

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