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post #1 of 70
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This ain't about your Monopoly or Life, this about those $45 monstrosities that come with 800 cardboard counters or a few hundred plastic game pieces and take a few hours to play. Our usual RPG session fell through this past week due to a couple of no-shows, so our host offered his ample board game collection and we killed about five hours with a game called Ticket to Ride. You basically try to finish train routes between cities, all the while trying to block others from finishing theirs while they try to do the same to you. The first game we played, we were still learning the ins and outs and were fairly good-humored, but the second game got tense and cutthroat as all hell.

So the next day I wandered down to our local game/comic shop and just browsed everything they had, and it's amazing the depth and breadth of product out there. Want a game where you're building an Egytptian palace? Got it. Want to recreate every obscure Civil War or WWI battle? Check. Want 5000 variations of Settlers of Catan? It's out there. The production value on many of these games is absolutely beautiful, and it's remarkable how many have such seemingly simple rules yet have nearly infinite strategies and permutations. Their prices may seem high, but so is the return on the investment. And I've always been a sucker for little cardboard tiles and hexboards.

Rambling aside, anyone have any recommendations? Or just any good stories/memories of these games?
post #2 of 70
Formula De (Racing), Arkham Horror (Horror, duh), Runebound (Fantasy), Get Out (General Fun), Age Of Steam (Trains), Power Grid (power plants), Bohnanza ("the bean game"), Bang! (Cowboys), Chrononauts (space)... all favorites of mine. There are a ton of others that my group plays on a weekly basis, but I'll let that be for another post. There is literally about 50-75 games within our disposal. It's insane the collection my two friends have aquired in the past year and a half.

You'll also waste tons of hours at http://www.boardgamegeek.com/
post #3 of 70
If there's a particular genre you're looking for, let me know. I've played a number of decent games (and bad ones) in most genres out there.
post #4 of 70
Thread Starter 
We actually had a Formula De league going at our game shop (before the owner sold the place and it turned into this heartless warehouse that doesn't want gamers who aren't playing MageKnight or Magic). We kept rankings while playing on multiple tracks and it was an absolute blast. Clever dice mechanic too.

Someone there that night mentioned a few sites where you could play these games online, but their names escape me. Any ideas?
post #5 of 70
Perhaps it's not considered a "serious" title, but I've always loved Axis & Allies. Lots of fun and the rulebook is fairly brief. Plus I appreciate all the detailed plastic pieces. Never liked the cardboard squares.

There is a PC version of the game, so presumably you could play it online.
post #6 of 70
Formula De is in my top 3, at least. Love that game. Dice mechanic is near perfection. You can think you are out of a race, then get a perfect roll and get back in it. Makes for some really fun moments.

If you look around Board Game Geek (BBG), I'm sure you'll find the links. I usually don't play the games online, but my one friend frequently directs me towards sites where you can demo games before you buy them. Of course, I don't archive those links. If I find any, I'll throw them up here.

This weekend we played some new games he got; Diamant (light mining game), Samauri and Winner's Circle (a horse racing game; very cutthroat if you make it that way). Good stuff.

We also pulled out the War Of The Ring game he got for $30 at Barnes and Noble during one of their clearance sales. It was just him and I, and we got through it in about 5 hours, which was a surprise. (We thought it would take at least 8, considering the pieces, gameplay, and the fact we had never played it before.)

I try to explain to people that these aren't regular board games, but they just don't get it. I usually just say we play games and they are content with that.
post #7 of 70
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I had an older War of the Ring game put out by SPI back around the time the Bakshi film was out. Came with a beautiful three-piece hard-mounted map of Middle-Earth and lots and lots of counters. You could play a character-based game that pitted a Fellowship player against a Sauron player and focused mostly on the Fellowship trying to get to Mt. Doom (they won if a Fellowship character finished the turn on the Mt. Doom hex). That version took about three hours to play. Then, for some real fun, you could throw all the armies on both sides in and not only play the quest but also the war itself. That took about six hours. And then you could use the optional rules and add a third player playing the Saruman side of things (he was folded into Sauron's group in the two-player game). I think I only ever played two full games of it, but I would constantly set it up and just look at it.

Attrition and time ate away at the counters, and after a while all I had left was a tattered rule book and the game board.

I like the time-consuming nature of these games, although some of them can be a little ridiculous. I have a couple of friends who were playing a game of Advance Squad Leader and said they were making good progress -- they'd played four hours and reached turn four.
post #8 of 70
Betrayal at house on the hill is a great board game:

http://boardgames.about.com/od/news/a/betrayal_pre.htm
post #9 of 70
Yeah, that's the same version of War of the Ring that we played. We played the full blown version, sans the third person. We figured if we were going to dedicate time to the game that we go all out on it. I liked it a lot, taking into account that I'm not the biggest fan of the LOTR trilogy and what not.

Saturdays are set for some of the longer games, like Twilight Imperium. Fun game, but it simply takes HOURS to get through. I'm more of a light game individual, as you can see from my list above.

Glad I'm not the only other Chewer out there that has played some of these other type of games.
post #10 of 70
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Originally Posted by samuraisix
Betrayal at house on the hill is a great board game:

http://boardgames.about.com/od/news/a/betrayal_pre.htm
True, but after a while I feel that the mechanic becomes a little old and predictable. It's definitely a game you pull out once or twice a year, if even that. It's one of the games we first started with, so it's stayed around for a while.
post #11 of 70
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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson
True, but after a while I feel that the mechanic becomes a little old and predictable. It's definitely a game you pull out once or twice a year, if even that. It's one of the games we first started with, so it's stayed around for a while.


Its a good game, but not played "out of box". In order to get the full effect and understand the rules you need to download the errata and revised boklets on the AH web site. The original rulebook and peripherals are needlessly vague.

Another good game is Twilight Imperium. It's difficulty falls somewhere between Risk and Warhammer.

Zombies is always a blast, as is Heroscape, but right now Arhkham Horror is my fave.
post #12 of 70
Even with the updated errata and revised text... it just okay. A good introduction game for newbies, though.

Zombies is fun, but I've only played it once. It's not a popular game amongst my group. I might pull it out the next time I choose games.

My group just got introduced to Heroscape. I fall about in the middle in terms of the overall group feeling for it.

Have you played the new Arkham Horror expansion? We played it on Saturday and I really enjoyed it. Enhances the game ten fold.
post #13 of 70
A local hobby store has a cool-looking zombie game; can't remember the title of it though. It's going to bug me until I get down that way again.
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I have a group of friends who are fairly hardcore boardgame people. Our big favorites these days are Puerto Rico and Tigris & Euphrates. We're also pretty fond of Acquire and History of the World. Puerto Rico is particularly interesting in that it has almost no random element; no dice, no cards, just out-thinking your opponents.
post #16 of 70
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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson
Even with the updated errata and revised text... it just okay. A good introduction game for newbies, though.

Zombies is fun, but I've only played it once. It's not a popular game amongst my group. I might pull it out the next time I choose games.

My group just got introduced to Heroscape. I fall about in the middle in terms of the overall group feeling for it.

Have you played the new Arkham Horror expansion? We played it on Saturday and I really enjoyed it. Enhances the game ten fold.

I haven't had a chance to buy the expansion yet. Plan on doing that fairly soon. Right now I am trying to learn classic D20 D&D (I'm looking for something new to try, and D&D is the last avenue of geekdom that I haven't explored).

The beer and pretzels miniature games like D&D minis and Star Wars are fun but only for a short time (especially if your group of friends is small and you quickly learn how they play).
post #17 of 70
I'm a complete Fantasy Flight Games whore. I own Game of thrones and the expansion, War of the Ring, and World of Warcraft (the production values on this one are insane, and it is a real good representation of the MMORPG mechanics)
post #18 of 70
Cosmic Encounter -- please tell me there's other junkies for this. I'm talking the "original" box set and expansion (as seen here at one the lower prices you'll ever find em). "Original" in quotes because the boxes themselves are compilations of 8 or 9 expansions.

Sadly, the incarnation on the shelves now by whoever the new publishers are, that came out years after the original was out of print, absolutely blows. Pointless plastic geegaws, reduced number of players, less alien races, and in general far less potential for total insanity. We were crushed, Highlander 2 type crushed.

But the original boxed incarnation, and "More Cosmic Encounter" expansion, oh Lord. The friend who owns the whole set is on the wrong coast now, but when we all get together on vacation once or twice a year, one night at least is blown on 5- or 6-player Cosmic Encounter. The tagline "The game that breaks its own rules" is right on it. Half the fun is the drunken bickering.

I've played a number of the other big ones, like Tigris and Euphrates, Settlers of Catan (and its many version), and put some serious time into a few Squad Leader scraps. But nothing has ever equaled the fun of a game of CE that's gone completely out of control. (Play with a Rules Wonk that tends to get pissy -- neverending joy!)
post #19 of 70
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Originally Posted by Trav McGee
Cosmic Encounter -- please tell me there's other junkies for this. I'm talking the "original" box set and expansion (as seen here at one the lower prices you'll ever find em). "Original" in quotes because the boxes themselves are compilations of 8 or 9 expansions.

Sadly, the incarnation on the shelves now by whoever the new publishers are, that came out years after the original was out of print, absolutely blows. Pointless plastic geegaws, reduced number of players, less alien races, and in general far less potential for total insanity. We were crushed, Highlander 2 type crushed.

But the original boxed incarnation, and "More Cosmic Encounter" expansion, oh Lord. The friend who owns the whole set is on the wrong coast now, but when we all get together on vacation once or twice a year, one night at least is blown on 5- or 6-player Cosmic Encounter. The tagline "The game that breaks its own rules" is right on it. Half the fun is the drunken bickering.
Damn that brings back memories. We used to steal beer and play that in a friends garage back in the early 80's. Fantastic game with endless rule debates. After playing "Magic the Gathering" with my nephews a few years ago, I realized it was Cosmic Encounter's illegimate child.
post #20 of 70
I'm not a huge fan of Cosmic Encounter. It's such a seething revenge game... tables always seem to turn on me (and I'm usually never the aggressor). Definitely a game that is set in it's ways socially.
post #21 of 70
I am a big fan of Settlers of Catan, and I have even lusted over the $300 3D version with resin tiles. I also like Puerto Rico quite a bit, but I have a hard time finding people to play it with.

Axis and Allies is a old favorite, and it's little brother Risk. I have them on CD and play on my work computer while I'm traveling.
post #22 of 70
Settlers is pretty fun, as are some of it's variations. (My group plays Starfarers quite a bit.) I'd love to have the resin tile edition of the original, but we don't play it enough to warrant the price. I'm a little jealous, actually.
post #23 of 70
Oh, I didn't buy it. I have lusted over it in the store a few times, but I can't justify $300.
post #24 of 70
Yeah, I just realized I misread that. My bad.
post #25 of 70
I will give myself a shameless plug and recommend the wargames that I have designed with my brother. Check them out at http://www.worthingtongames.com (The website is at basic right now due to an impending re-design please forgive the craptacular quality)

I also have a blog about the game design process at http://worthingtongames.blogspot.com

My boardgamegeek publisher page is here...

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/publisher/2355

I really enjoy the business. It is a lot like making movies, only far less profitable. It is basically one of those things you do because you really enjoy it.
post #26 of 70
Interesting... didn't know we had a designer on these boards.
post #27 of 70
How does the Monopoly thread get 19 posts in less time than it takes for this thread to get one? NEIN!

I just got Descent: Journeys in the Dark by FFG last week. Last Saturday was a blast.
post #28 of 70
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Originally Posted by Monty Underhill
How does the Monopoly thread get 19 posts in less time than it takes for this thread to get one? NEIN!

I just got Descent: Journeys in the Dark by FFG last week. Last Saturday was a blast.
Monopoly is the devil.

Descent has some very nice looking components. They have an expansion coming out quite soon.
post #29 of 70
I'm a huge PUERTO RICO fan. Played it almost every week for a good couple months last year. It goes by pretty fast with 3 players, but with 4 someone always gets screwed. With more than 4, the game takes forever and its really hard to get going and once you do the game has ended.

My friends and I moved on to CARCASSONNE - HUNTERS AND GATHERERS. It was fun, but too easy. I pretty much always ended up winning.

For my birthday this past May, I received BOHNANZA. I haven't had a chance to play it yet, but I've been told that fans of PUERTO RICO will love it. Also, I love games where I can debate people and this game requires negotiation. I can't wait to host a game night soon!

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Originally Posted by Nigel St. Buggering
I have a group of friends who are fairly hardcore boardgame people. Our big favorites these days are Puerto Rico and Tigris & Euphrates. We're also pretty fond of Acquire and History of the World. Puerto Rico is particularly interesting in that it has almost no random element; no dice, no cards, just out-thinking your opponents.
My friends and I all go for "The Factory". It added a new element to the game where we all scrambled to get it first. That card just piles on the gold coins.
post #30 of 70
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Originally Posted by Diva
My friends and I all go for "The Factory". It added a new element to the game where we all scrambled to get it first. That card just piles on the gold coins.
"The Hacienda" and "The Hospice" are often hotly contested in our games. Especially since we like to play the "cutthroat" version, where there's only one of each building available.
post #31 of 70
"The Bean Game" is a blast, depending on how you play it. Trade often, and you will have lots of fun. It's definitely a social game.
post #32 of 70
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Originally Posted by Nigel St. Buggering
"The Hacienda" and "The Hospice" are often hotly contested in our games. Especially since we like to play the "cutthroat" version, where there's only one of each building available.
Those are good ones, as well. I'll have to suggest playing cutthroat. It definitely means you have to have a game plan early and really stick to it. My general strategy is to go for goods that the person in front of me has (so I benefit from whatever Role s/he picks) and screw over the person after me. I guess that's probably everyone's strategy, but I find some people are not very good at making that happen.

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Originally Posted by Jason P. Thompson
"The Bean Game" is a blast, depending on how you play it. Trade often, and you will have lots of fun. It's definitely a social game.
Nice. I can't wait to play it.
post #33 of 70
The World Boardgaming Championships are this weekend in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. While it is hardly an event of Comic-Con proportions it is a good chance to play a bunch of games and see new product. I will be there selling my games/sex.
post #34 of 70
My main boardgame is A Game of Thrones, with Puerto Rico and Catan being the other ones. For once, there's a good licence out there which gave birth to a great game.

Axis and Allies takes forever to play. And I shall not speak of Diplomacy....

I'll definitely have to check some recommendations on this thread.
post #35 of 70
I'm thinking about picking up one of these big games that take hours to play. I've got it narrowed down to Twilight Imperium and Descent. What's the chewer consensus on these--I've heard them mentioned, but no real details?

Also, I played Munchkin (a combination of D&D and Screw Your Neighbor with cards) last night. That was really fun.
post #36 of 70
Munchkin is a great game for a group of friends when you don't have all day. Stay away from Munckin Fu, though. The game balance goes right down the toilet in that one.

Has anybody actually played the World of Warcraft board game? I keep looking it up on eBay, but I've managed to resist bidding thus far. Is it worth it?
post #37 of 70
It's not bad.

It's like the PC game, but tabletop... ( duh...), as you gather a party and set forth to kill stuff in dungeons. If you want a Hero Quest experience, go for it, it's just that with more goodies. I prefer moving armies, but to each his own.

As for Munchkins, I bought all the expensions of the original. Great stuff. Munchkin Bites is ok, but I never tried the Fu version. Thanks for the heads up Nigel.
post #38 of 70
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Originally Posted by RathBandu
I'm thinking about picking up one of these big games that take hours to play. I've got it narrowed down to Twilight Imperium and Descent. What's the chewer consensus on these--I've heard them mentioned, but no real details?

Also, I played Munchkin (a combination of D&D and Screw Your Neighbor with cards) last night. That was really fun.
Descent is kinda like WoW, while Twilight Imperium is a galactic empire game. Never played them, but both are from Fantasy Flight Games, and I had great experiences coming from their games ( Game of Thrones, War of the Ring and even WoW, which surprised me).

I guess it depends on what you like.
post #39 of 70
Descent is a pure dungeon crawler game. Someone plays the dungeon master and the other players attempt to defeat the bosses within.

And like Winterfell noted, Twilight Imperium is a galatic empire game... a ton of people can play, but you're going to need an entire day to play the thing. It's EPIC.
post #40 of 70
This thread has been dormant for a couple of weeks, but I wanted to mention a couple of things. I went to a local game convention this weekend, and tried a couple of games I hadn't before. Power Grid and Princes of Florence are both excellent. When I came home with new copies of them, I looked them up on boardgamegeek, and they were numbers 4 and 6 in the top 100 games. That gives me four of the top ten. Woo.

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I also tried Betrayal at House on the Hill. It made me want to commit ritual suicide. I really can't stand games in which the players don't actually do anything. You just turn over tiles and cards and things happen. The traitor doesn't even know he's the traitor until the board tells him he is. The game essentially plays itself; it only needs players because they have hands. Bleah.

Sadly, I missed out on the only Descent game of the weekend because my friend was running Call of Cthulhu, and wanted me in it.
post #41 of 70
I played Axis & Allies for the first time in years, last weekend. The new "revised edition" plays much better than the 2nd Edition I was accustomed to playing. I think it's even cheaper than it used to be too, ($34.99, down from $50).

At this point, it probably barely qualifies as a "designer board game", but it's definitely fun.
post #42 of 70
I love Power Grid. It's my favorite game right after Formula De. Princes of Florence is a good game, but it doesn't get played much in my circle.

Betrayal at House on the Hill gets old really quick. My group played it a number of weeks ago and I was bored to tears. They didn't seem to think that, though. Never a game I will pick.

Saturday, my group ended up playing a 7 hour game of Descent. That was excuriating... and the good guys ended up losing at the very last turn. I couldn't believe it.
post #43 of 70
Thread Starter 
Apparently, Settlers of Cataan and Ticket to Ride are going to be added to XBox Live soon.

And while not exactly a designer board game, we spent almost six hours playing Liar's Dice (the game from Dead Man's Chest) a few weekends ago. One of our group found the actual rules, whipped up a game board (useful for keeping track of what's been bet), and got some cheap dice cups and away we went. It started off as a way to kill some time before our RPG session while waiting for the rest of the players to show up, and we all got so into it we just kept going and going, and before we knew it it was midnight. Once you get down to two or three players left with only one or two dice each, the game gets downright brutal.
post #44 of 70
I'd imagine that Catan will probably be a lot like the Catan game you can download from Yahoo!
post #45 of 70
Finally played Bohnanza. What a great game. As I suspected, my friends and I found all sorts of ways to bribe each other into giving up cherished cards. We're going to revisit Puerto Rico in a few weeks. I might bring up Greg's "cutthroat" suggestion.
post #46 of 70
I'm visiting my friends in upstate NY this week (the ones I introduced to Settlers of Cataan, who in turn introduced me to Puerto Rico). I'm sure we'll play both of those, and Tikal, and possibly something new. Some good suggestions floating around in this thread.
post #47 of 70
Rumis is another good game. Light, fast, and fun. It's like a 3D Tetris.
post #48 of 70
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Originally Posted by Gio Angles
I played Axis & Allies for the first time in years, last weekend. The new "revised edition" plays much better than the 2nd Edition I was accustomed to playing. I think it's even cheaper than it used to be too, ($34.99, down from $50).

At this point, it probably barely qualifies as a "designer board game", but it's definitely fun.
It is still very much a designer game. The original designer Larry Harris has been involved in Hasbro's efforts to expand the Axis and Allies line. He also designed (or co-designed) three spin-offs Axis & Allies Europe, Pacific, and D-Day. A Battle of Bulge version is on the way. He posted a thread about it on his messageboard.
post #49 of 70
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Originally Posted by kingcujoI
It is still very much a designer game.
Cujo is right on spot. Any game that, after 9 hours of gaming, you're barely able to claim a minor victory while attempting to keep your couple together is a designer game.
post #50 of 70
My friends and I used to play Talisman back in college, usually while stoned out of our gourds.

Going back even further to high school (20 years ago), my friend had a war game based on Heinlein's Starship Troopers. I never got to actually play (something came up, IIRC), but I recall reading the rules during one of my classes. It looked intense, and I was psyched to play, but it didn't happen.

More recently, there's now a board game version of Sid Meier's Civilization game. It's not the old Avalon Hill game, but an adaptation of the PC title, going from 4000 BC to the modern age.

At the World Horror Con in San Francisco this year, one vendor in the dealer's room had a table stocked with tons of board games, 95% of which I had never heard of before. He said most were European releases, and not readiily available here in the States. He didn't have a website, but said he frequents conventions along the West Coast.

Sadly I have nobody to play with anymore. I haven't made any friends here in California, and I can't even get my wife to indulge in card game of Illuminati.
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