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article suggests RIP to PSP

post #1 of 20
7/19/06 at 3:51pm
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GWN has an article that says the PSP is as good as dead...

http://www.gwn.com/articles/article.php/id/747/p/1/

Do you agree?

I personally have never played the portable system.
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post #2 of 20
7/19/06 at 4:35pm
This is retarded. It's touting the GBA or the DS to be the right answer. The GBA was no slouch in releasing crap and many of its popular titles were ports... of games over a decade old. I bought NCAA knowing it would be very watered down. But I bought it for its portability. I played Madden on PSP way more than I did with its console counterpart.

The DS is finally coming around by releasing franchise games that aren't remakes. Why did we have to go through 4 Mario remakes on GBA before we could get to a new Mario game? Hell, they even have to inform the consumer that the game is new by putting the word in its title.

Look, I'm no Nintendo hater. He'll I'm probably going to be picking up the Wii over the PS3. But this writer cites plenty of criticisms that simply don't stack up to the PSP being a failure. With all of Nintendo's missteps, they should have been out of business for years by this guy's rationale.
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post #3 of 20
7/19/06 at 5:09pm
That article isn't the best, but I've started to view the PSP as a failure.
I owned one from launch and had some fun with it, but after a while I was tired of it collecting dust. I traded in my PSP and all my UMDs for a DS Lite when it came out, and I can honestly say I've had more fun with the DS in the month I've owned it than I probably ever had with the PSP.

It took Nintendo a while to build up a solid collection of games, but in my eyes, the DS library absolutely destroys the PSP's. And that's coming from someone who's owned both.
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post #4 of 20
7/19/06 at 5:18pm
These don't stack up?

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Overall the PSP’s game library lacks hit software, UMD movies are on their way out with a very weak MemoryStick option replacing it, the past two years at E3 have been near disastrous, the DS Lite shines brighter in every aspect, and finally gamers budgets are going to be very strained over the course of the next ten months at least as we all rush to buy the Wii, PS3, or an Xbox 360.
The only questionable reason in that summary is that "the DS Lite shines brighter in every aspect". That's a bold statement, considering that the DS is pretty unfriendly with regards to other media.

Maybe I'm biased. I gotta admit, I love the shit out of my Ds Lite (cracked hinge and all). The reasons I chose the DS were two that the author mentions: budget and quality of games.

I understand that the PS3 is a technologically superior device, one that is much more capable than the DS, but I was just looking for something that I could play for 15-20 minutes at a time.
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post #5 of 20
7/19/06 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by FreeRobotSex
But this writer cites plenty of criticisms that simply don't stack up to the PSP being a failure. With all of Nintendo's missteps, they should have been out of business for years by this guy's rationale.
Not true. The first things that are killing the PSP that the writer mentions are an overpriced platform, small user base, and expensive development costs (coincidentally the same issues that everyone is predicting that Sony will have with the PS3.) None of those things apply to the DS. The older Nintendo platforms that did suffer from some of those issues are considered failures.

And no one's saying Sony will go out of business. Just that the PSP format is dying.[/edit]

I will agree that the article isn't the best ever written, though.
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post #6 of 20
7/19/06 at 5:29pm
The PSP is killer hardware but Sony's arrogance is killing it.

The way they handled movie playback is a great example. Sony could've offered a good, free tool to transform DVD files to PSP files and followed a "Don't ask, don't tell" policy on people ripping copyrighted material.

Instead, they tried to push their format and failed.

Come to think about it, they could've offered blank UMDs and UMD burners for your computer. They'd make more money out of that hardware! They coul've sold an AV cable a la Ipod, to allow you to watch the movies on a TV.

There are a million things Sony could've handled differently Nintendo is making a big deal out of the DS web browser. The PSP has one already built in and Sony is awfully silent about it, just because they can't make more money out of that feature.
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post #7 of 20
7/19/06 at 5:34pm
Sony is very pissed about the success of the iPod and intent on establishing some popular format of their own. They just keep striking out.
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post #8 of 20
7/19/06 at 5:36pm
This obsession with proprietary formats will be their doom. They could make a lot of money just by supporting existing formats, or in the case of next-gen DVD by agreeing on a single standard. But they are greedy.

They also fail to take into account that ipods also play mp3s. If they forced you to convert all files to an apple format, I doubt they'd be as successful.

In fact, Sony is making the same mistakes Apple was making in the 90's. They need a change in their corporate culture.
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post #9 of 20
7/19/06 at 6:30pm
Proprietary formats? You mean, proprietary media (UMD)? You do know that Nintendo's cartridges are "proprietary" too right?

PSP supports standard media formats, it supports mp3 and mpeg for video. Sounds pretty standard to me!
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post #10 of 20
7/19/06 at 6:37pm
And here I thought the PSP was beginning to do better.
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post #11 of 20
7/19/06 at 6:49pm
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Proprietary formats? You mean, proprietary media (UMD)? You do know that Nintendo's cartridges are "proprietary" too right?

PSP supports standard media formats, it supports mp3 and mpeg for video. Sounds pretty standard to me!
You're right. I don't think that's the issue at all. Problem is, there are fewer worthwhile games on Sony's proprietary format than Nintendo's, and Nintendo's are cheaper to boot.
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post #12 of 20
7/19/06 at 10:32pm

one thing

the light at the end of the tunnel, is not illusory. It will be the gta:vice city stories and metal gear portable ops ( actual gameplay instead of cards unlike AC!D) PS3 connectability isnt bad either. a cable to watch movies on tv was announced. Overlord, dont worry to much
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post #13 of 20
7/19/06 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by El Thain
the light at the end of the tunnel, is not illusory. It will be the gta:vice city stories and metal gear portable ops ( actual gameplay instead of cards unlike AC!D) PS3 connectability isnt bad either. a cable to watch movies on tv was announced. Overlord, dont worry to much
1. Liberty City Stories wasn't enough. VCS won't be either.

2. Portable Ops is good, but it's Metal Gear. It's not broadly appealing enough to be a killer app.

3. PS3 connectivity? Yeah, that's worth $600.

4. A cable to watch movies on my TV? What, you mean BETTER than the one currently attached to my TV? The one connected to my DVD player?
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post #14 of 20
7/19/06 at 11:15pm
PSPs problems - The load times are horrid. The system is VERY fragile compared to the GBA/DS. There isn't a single game on it you can hold up alongside New Super Mario Bros as an example of both systems having AAA titles.

If UMD movies had been 10$, they would still be around. A lot of people are way too lazy to jump through the hoops required to download a movie on a memory card.

It's very telling that one of the main things people use it for is to play old SNES games.
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post #15 of 20
7/20/06 at 10:36am
I said in another post that UMDs and even games need to be cheaper. They need to be the collectible little impulse buys that they were designed to be.

And whoever wanted a cord to connect to the TV is crazy. Imagine how nasty a game or movie will look blown up on a TV.
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post #16 of 20
7/20/06 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by xAdam Warlockx
If UMD movies had been 10$, they would still be around. A lot of people are way too lazy to jump through the hoops required to download a movie on a memory card.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but UMD's are basically little optical disks, right? I imagine they cost a few cents to make (if that). So, why didn't Sony (at least) decide to package UMDs with DVDs in order to promote the PSP? You could call it a "special edition" and slap an extra buck or two on it to cover the cost of the additional packaging. Heck, the Sony library alone would have been enough to keep the interest of most folks.

I mean, how many times are we supposed to pay to obtain the same movie?
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post #17 of 20
7/20/06 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by Overlord
Correct me if I'm wrong, but UMD's are basically little optical disks, right? I imagine they cost a few cents to make (if that). So, why didn't Sony (at least) decide to package UMDs with DVDs in order to promote the PSP?
They started doing that once the UMD began to lose ground at retail. But I think even that push may basically be stillborn.
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post #18 of 20
7/20/06 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by Russ Fischer
They started doing that once the UMD began to lose ground at retail. But I think even that push may basically be stillborn.
Really! Wow, I'm going to check around for that. I wonder how widespread it was. The Sony library would have been enough for me to buy the PSP, as I watch movies on the go quite a bit but didn't want to keep having to buy the same movies over and over again.
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post #19 of 20
7/20/06 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica
Proprietary formats? You mean, proprietary media (UMD)? You do know that Nintendo's cartridges are "proprietary" too right?
The difference being that one is solely for gaming and one isn't. You're creating a disconnect with consumers with the idea that you can 'do anything!' on the PSP, but then saying it has to be done in this certain format that people aren't used to.

Basically, if the DS promoted that you could watch movies, listen to music and connect with your TV, radio, etc., but still relied on their proprietary cartridges to do so, it would also fail. By saying that the DS is for gaming only, consumers don't question it.

Sony had the same problem with their mini-disc players. You could listen to CD quality music on the go, and record onto these discs, but you had to convert the music into this proprietary file format that just made the whole process too much of a pain to be worth it.
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post #20 of 20
7/20/06 at 2:47pm
Anyway, I doubt Sony will abandon the PSP. Mobile gaming is the next industry battlefront and I've come to believe that with wi-fi getting more popular, everyone's trying to jump into the mobile internet tablet bandwagon. Microsft is using musicas its trojan horse for that, Apple will probably do the same and Nintendo and Sony are using games.
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