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Black Rain SE in October

post #1 of 46
7/26/06 at 12:54am
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From DVDActive:

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Paramount Home Entertainment has provided details on a new special collector's edition of Ridley Scott's 1989 thriller Black Rain, which will be available on the 10th of October at a retail price of right around $14.99. The disc will incude a new anamorphic transfer of the film at its original 2.35:1 aspect ratio along with English Dolby Digital 5.1 and Dolby 2.0 Surround audio. Extras will include feature-length audio commentary with director Ridley Scott and an all-new making-of documentary. We'll let you know if anything else is added to the set, but for now we've attached our first look at the artwork below.


Really looking forward to this. It may not be as stacked as some of the DVDs from Scott's other films but it is going to be a welcome upgrade from the previous release. I'm a bit torn on the cover. It's nice to see Garcia there but Ken Takakura should probably be featured as well. I did always enjoy Douglas' classic pose on the original release but maybe that type of look doesn't sell as well these days. Whatever, glad to be getting a new making of doc. Good price too, it'll probably be easy to grab for $10 when it's first released.
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post #2 of 46
7/26/06 at 12:55am
Wow I can't wait!
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post #3 of 46
7/26/06 at 12:56am
Great.
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post #4 of 46
7/26/06 at 1:20am
There's a must buy.
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post #5 of 46
7/26/06 at 1:29am
This Works every time.

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post #6 of 46
7/26/06 at 1:35am
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There needs to be a gif depicting when Douglas gets Sato with the stretch-into-an-elbow-punch on the airplane.
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post #7 of 46
7/26/06 at 1:39am
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti
There needs to be a gif depicting when Douglas gets Sato with the stretch-into-an-elbow-punch on the airplane.
Did he steal that from Commando? Or was that a neck twist?
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post #8 of 46
7/26/06 at 1:42am
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It's a bit of an homage to COMMANDO, I can see that, but disguising it as a stretch was the little touch that made it Douglas' own.
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post #9 of 46
7/26/06 at 1:49am
I always thought it was weird that the Japanese film Black Rain was released the same year, addressing the same issue but much more seriously.
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post #10 of 46
7/26/06 at 1:51am
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti
It's a bit of an homage to COMMANDO, I can see that, but disguising it as a stretch was the little touch that made it Douglas' own.
Everyone who smiles around Douglas gets one of those.
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post #11 of 46
7/26/06 at 2:06am
Awesome, I'm sold just for the commentary, but the price doesn't hurt either.
I haven't seen this movie in a long time, but I remember having no expectations and being blown away the first time I saw it. Definitely one of the Ridley Scott movies people seem to have forgotten about(seems that way, anyway).
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post #12 of 46
7/26/06 at 2:24am
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Yeah, it's probably his most underrated film. It's a pretty conventional story but between the performances and the fantastic look of the movie from Scott it's elevated into something more.

Plus there's that headbutt.
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post #13 of 46
7/26/06 at 2:36am
I have the bare bones release with the original art work, but this new release, with the commentary, will make me double dip for it. One of the last great 80's movies.
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post #14 of 46
7/26/06 at 2:45am
I really enjoy this film and can't wait to pick it up.

I also love the climactic motorcycle chase where Douglas and Sato beat the shit out of each other. Douglas then decides whether or not to impale Sato on the stick. It then abruptly cuts to Douglas and Mastumura taking Sato into the police station. Just a great way of showing how Douglas learned to put justice ahead of blood vengeance.

And yes, that elbow punch in the airplane is badass.
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post #15 of 46
7/26/06 at 2:52am
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That ending is great.

The beheading is a rough scene. More than the actual slice is the helpless reaction from Douglas who can't do a damn thing to stop it.
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post #16 of 46
7/26/06 at 2:54am
I just love the part when Nick and Masa go to Sato's and Nick starts tearing the place apart to Hans Zimmer's awesome score. The brawl in the mud is cool also.
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post #17 of 46
7/26/06 at 3:03am
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I wonder if they'll get Luis Guzman to loop his brief dialogue from the opening motorcycle chase. Probably not, but that was a bad dub job.
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post #18 of 46
7/26/06 at 3:32am
Yeah, I also noticed that about his voice when I watched the film the other day.

I also liked this foreign poster for the film: http://www.kinopolis.de/filminfo/b/i...rainplakat.jpg

Sato sure looked creepy with his big glasses. Reminded me of Toht (the black coated Nazi) from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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post #19 of 46
7/26/06 at 3:38am
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Originally Posted by Ravi
Sato sure looked creepy with his big glasses. Reminded me of Toht (the black coated Nazi) from Raiders of the Lost Ark.

"Here I am, Neeeek!"

I remember trying to find those glasses for the longest time.They were pretty unique but I never found a pair.
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post #20 of 46
7/26/06 at 4:48am
Cool! I remember the opening theme song cracked me up. And they play it again at the end. It's a song about how Douglas doesn't play by the rules.
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post #21 of 46
7/26/06 at 4:53am
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Originally Posted by Ravi
I also liked this foreign poster for the film: http://www.kinopolis.de/filminfo/b/i...rainplakat.jpg
That was used for the cover of the Japanese DVD. I have to say I like the original US cover the best. Douglas just looked so badass.

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Sato sure looked creepy with his big glasses. Reminded me of Toht (the black coated Nazi) from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
The actor, Yusaku Matsuda, was suffering from cancer during the shooting of the film, and died a few months after the premiere.
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post #22 of 46
7/26/06 at 9:51am
YES!!

Top of the morning, I open up Chud and the first thing I see is this. YES!!

Looking very forward to double-dipping this. Ridley Scott's most-Tony Scott flick, Jan DeBont's finest hour and one of Douglas' better performances, his Nick Conklin character somewhat the germ of his Nick Curran from Basic Instinct.

But the Int'l poster is shit. It's the one we originally (and forever have) had in Spain and I'd much better go with your Struzan clone.
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post #23 of 46
7/26/06 at 10:09am
Gret news. Hmm, probably shouldn't have bought this 2 weeks ago..
Why does this always happen ?
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post #24 of 46
7/26/06 at 12:00pm
Ridley Scott is a visionary.

He uses both iconic asian henchmen. Al Leong AND Professor Toru Tanaka.
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post #25 of 46
7/26/06 at 12:26pm
Great movie. this will be one to buy.

a lot of people i know don't like this flick. mostly because they are assholes.
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post #26 of 46
7/27/06 at 5:46pm
Such great news I echo all the love for this flick.

Also this film has Tomisaburo Wakayama (Lone Wolf himself) as Sugai!
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post #27 of 46
7/27/06 at 7:50pm
I also love the flick because a lot of it was shot at places I've been to in Osaka and Kobe, such as the bar where Douglas meets Kate Capshaw.
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post #28 of 46
7/27/06 at 10:34pm
You also have to give it credit for ending with a freeze framed thumbs up.
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post #29 of 46
7/27/06 at 11:27pm
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Originally Posted by wadew1
You also have to give it credit for ending with a freeze framed thumbs up.
It gets another star for that alone.
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post #30 of 46
7/27/06 at 11:30pm
IIRC, he actually waves goodbye after giving Mas the thumbs up. Then turns and walks away. So cool.
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post #31 of 46
7/27/06 at 11:58pm
Also the ending credits song that kicks in at that point is great. Research reveals it to be "I'll be Holding On" by Gregg Allman.
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post #32 of 46
7/28/06 at 12:22am
I had a shot from this film in my locker all the way through high school - the truck about to run down Michael Douglas. Critics dumped on it (and continue to do so) but it's my third-favourite Scott film, after Alien and Blade Runner.

The Japan (California?) stuff is great, but the film really hooks you with the New York intro. Establishing Douglas' character as a flawed cop, who thankfully has a little more than the stereotypical hate-filled relationship with his ex - like responsible adults, they've managed to make it work for the kids.
Also Luis Guzman and John Spencer to give it some street cred, and that terrific action sequence starting in the bar. You see Vondie Curtis-Hall for about two seconds in the interrogation room.

As Darq Gus notes, kudos for not only the late Yusaku Matsuda but also Professor Tanaka, who died a few years ago.

A couple of notes:

The lousy karaoke singer: That's Keoni Young, now seen by millions as Mr. Wu on Deadwood.

The girl who plays Sato's moll was in a couple of those Cronenberg-esque ultraviolent Japanese flicks.
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post #33 of 46
7/28/06 at 12:34am
As long as we're getting into details, it's worth noting that this was not the only time Ken Takakura was called up for buddy duty in a western film. He previously partnered with Robert Mitchum in the 1974 crime thriller The Yakuza, and later would appear as Tom Selleck's manager in 1992's Mr. Baseball.
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post #34 of 46
7/28/06 at 12:42am
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Originally Posted by Desslar
The actor, Yusaku Matsuda, was suffering from cancer during the shooting of the film, and died a few months after the premiere.
I read from some site that he was most famous for playing cops. Do you know any other great films he made?
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post #35 of 46
7/28/06 at 1:01am
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Originally Posted by Desslar
As long as we're getting into details, it's worth noting that this was not the only time Ken Takakura was called up for buddy duty in a western film. He previously partnered with Robert Mitchum in the 1974 crime thriller The Yakuza, and later would appear as Tom Selleck's manager in 1992's Mr. Baseball.
Ken Takakura's an interesting fellow. He was born shortly before the war, but was old enough to appreciate the extreme changes occurring in the country afterwards. Hopefully more of his earlier films will become available over here.
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post #36 of 46
7/28/06 at 1:04am
Takakura had also previously costarred in the Robert Aldrich-directed WW2 flick TOO LATE THE HERO, alongside Michael Caine.

Matsuda was an icon back in the 70s mostly for his cop/detective roles on TV. I haven't seen any of his feature films, though I really want to check out A-HOMANSU (which he also directed) and FAMILY GAME.

His son Ryuhei has been carrying on his dad's legacy in films like IZO, BLUE SPRING, 9 SOULS, GOHATTO, etc.
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post #37 of 46
7/28/06 at 1:04am
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Originally Posted by Ravi
I read from some site that he was most famous for playing cops. Do you know any other great films he made?
Actually, he was in another movie about the NYPD - I can't remember the name, but it starred George Kennedy.
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post #38 of 46
7/28/06 at 1:27am
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Originally Posted by Ravi
I read from some site that he was most famous for playing cops. Do you know any other great films he made?
I think that's right, but most of his films are not available in the US so I can't give specifics. If you can find Ningen no Shomei (Proof of Man - 1977) you can see him investigate a murder in New York with George Kennedy.

The only other of his films that I've seen is the rather bizarre Kazoku Gemu (Family Game - 1983), which is a somewhat surreal satire on Japanese family life at the time. It's definitely interesting, but without much prior knowledge of Japan one might wonder what the heck is going on. Matsuda plays a somewhat malevolent tutor who literally tries to smack a dysfunctional family into shape.

Here's a bunch of clips from his hit 1970s detective series Tantei Monogatari (Detective Story):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0e6_Jr-Gxo



Sigh, Japanese TV ain't what it used to be.
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post #39 of 46
8/1/06 at 11:15am
FAMILY GAME gets it's first US DVD release on August 28th.
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post #40 of 46
8/3/06 at 5:51am
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Originally Posted by The Hellboy
FAMILY GAME gets it's first US DVD release on August 28th.
Thanks for the tip. I saw it in Japanese class long ago. Might have to take another look.
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post #41 of 46
10/10/06 at 11:04pm
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Bump because this came out today. I figured Fry's would be a lock to have it since they get everything even remotely mainstream. I swung by there after work and they didn't have it. Then I gave Best Buy a call and they didn't have it either. Panic set in.

This forced me into a position I didn't want to be in. With a Wal-Mart only one exit away I had no choice but to go there instead of heading home empty-handed. Just walking through there gives me the creeps. I feel a bit like Wesley Snipes when he goes looking for Sam Jackson towards the end of JUNGLE FEVER.

But I gotta give them credit where credit is due, They had a nice supply of BLACK RAIN discs on display and it was only $7.99. Thanks capitalism.
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post #42 of 46
10/11/06 at 12:09am
$7.99 for a brand new special edition?? I guess Black Rain is no Scarface.
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post #43 of 46
10/11/06 at 12:28am
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It's a single disc release but just going through the first of the "making of" features you can tell it's not a half-assed SE. The interviews with Douglas, Garcia, and Ridley Scott are all current and judging by the clips shown so far the film itself looks great.
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post #44 of 46
10/11/06 at 2:30am
Sounds good. I definitely want to pick it up this week.
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post #45 of 46
10/12/06 at 10:56pm
heh..just noticed that when Micheal Douglas and Sato fight at the end,there's someone standing in the shot behind them. Kinda funny.
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post #46 of 46
10/13/06 at 8:22pm
Bought my copy yesterday. The special features are cool and the film looks and sounds great. I wish they could have gotten Ken Takakura for an interview, though.
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