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post #51 of 108
Looks pretty good.
Nice to see a film actually about Spartan culture, too.
post #52 of 108
Millers a fucking genius if his vison is translated right(looks like it is) then 300 will be epic
post #53 of 108
I don't really see what all the fuss is about. The effects look way too green-screened, kind of like one of those low-budget Sci-Fi channel commercials. The obvious effects are pretty distracting. The stylized approach worked for Sin City, but that's not something you can replicate without it being repetitive.

I just feel like a movie like this needs to be gritty and realistic. This feels like an overproduced Madonna video.

I mean, it's just a blurry trailer, but this definitely wasn't what I was expecting. It felt like the trailer to Mirrormask.
post #54 of 108
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Originally Posted by devincf
All sets are CGI. They had some rocks and shrubs and shit, and a wall made of corpses, as practical things on the soundstage, but everything else was pretty much CGI. They may have had a column or two as well.
Yeah, it was the practical stuff I was referring to. That stuff was looking like they just pillaged crap from the sets of StarTrek:TOS and then didnt bother to dress it or make it look less cheap. The rocks look like chessy shit you buy from IKEA.
Man, we need a better quality trailer STAT!!!
post #55 of 108
Beautiful.
post #56 of 108
This looks amazing. I didn't expect this when I heard a movie was being made from the comic.
post #57 of 108
What NIN songs are used in the trailer? It sounded badass to be sure but none of it sounded especially familiar.
post #58 of 108
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Originally Posted by Stormin
What NIN songs are used in the trailer? It sounded badass to be sure but none of it sounded especially familiar.
I believe it is "Just Like You Imagined".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvOkvn9JmPg
post #59 of 108
I haven't read Miller's "300", so I'm not excited just based on the title. I watched the trailer and all I could think was that it looked like a big budget Marines ad. Sure I'll see the movie and hold judgement on it until then, but the trailer still rings of fascism and makes me feel all icky inside.
post #60 of 108
Facism? What the fuck?
post #61 of 108
Hmmm... I was hoping for a bit more Troy and a bit less Sin City. Hard to judge from this collection of random blurry images though.
post #62 of 108
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Originally Posted by Chris Wood
Hmmm... I was hoping for a bit more Troy and a bit less Sin City.
Are you joking?
post #63 of 108
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Originally Posted by stump
I haven't read Miller's "300", so I'm not excited just based on the title. I watched the trailer and all I could think was that it looked like a big budget Marines ad. Sure I'll see the movie and hold judgement on it until then, but the trailer still rings of fascism and makes me feel all icky inside.
Sparta was a nasty, militaristic society but not a fascist one. There was no cult of the leader. The kings were elected, served terms, had limited power and there were two of them, in order to avoid tyranny.
post #64 of 108
Wow, that looks really great. I hope it's better than SIN CITY.
post #65 of 108
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Originally Posted by mastronikolas
Sparta was a nasty, militaristic society but not a fascist one. There was no cult of the leader. The kings were elected, served terms, had limited power and there were two of them, in order to avoid tyranny.
Yeah, I was drunk posting again. I guess when I said fascism I meant something more along the lines of military based society. I think I was thinking fascism because of the part at the beginning where they talk about discarding imperfect babies, or something.
post #66 of 108
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Originally Posted by stump
Yeah, I was drunk posting again. I guess when I said fascism I meant something more along the lines of military based society. I think I was thinking fascism because of the part at the beginning where they talk about discarding imperfect babies, or something.
Here's Wiki to help you a bit:

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Fascism is a political ideology that is associated with one or more of the following characteristics: 1) a very high degree of nationalism, 2) centralized control of private enterprise (corporatism), and, after it attains political control of a country, involves 3) a powerful executive-centered (or even dictatorial) state that views the nation as superior to the individuals or groups composing it (authoritarianism.) Fascism also typically calls for the regeneration of the nation, uses populist appeals to unity, and extols militarism as a major virtue. It also is associated with anti-liberalism, anti-communism and anti-anarchism.
Go inform yourself before saying stuff like that.
post #67 of 108
Didn't Gates of Fire get optioned as well? Speaking of, it's a great book and a surprisingly easy read for those of you who might be interested.
post #68 of 108
I actually think the NIN song in the trailer is "Hand that Feeds".
post #69 of 108
No, it's "Just Like You Imagined." They used almost the whole piece, too.
post #70 of 108
Is there another link?

This one doesn't work for me.
http://mftm.blogspot.com/2006/09/300...ler-scoop.html
post #71 of 108
Yeah, no iFilm, AICN, YouTube, or blogspot links anymore. Help!
post #72 of 108
It's on YouTube, but you've gotta move quick...people are loading them up, YouTube's taking them down. Why doesn't Warner just release the trailer already?
post #73 of 108
Exactly as i thought it'd be. Snyder is a genius and a wise man too.

Cannot wait for this to come - I hope it leads to the awards that Sin City got passed over for - Hollywood needs to remember the films that made it what it is today.

This looks epic, exciting, action and emotion packed/charged, and there is something so fresh to the whole thing (and this is from someone whos read the comic a few times over).

Ooops, I think i just dribbled a little bit......and not from my mouth....
post #74 of 108
Interesting how this trailer is polarizing people so extremely. Unfortunately, I have to join sides with the "meh" army.

It looks like a comic book, a music video, a commercial, a video game, a painting, an opera...pretty much everything EXCEPT a movie. That alone makes me curious to see it, strangely enough. But then I hated SIN CITY so much, I almost walked out, which is something I've never done. And yes, the Brian Blessed School of Scream-Acting is not a plus either.
post #75 of 108
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Originally Posted by Yas
I hope it leads to the awards that Sin City got passed over for - Hollywood needs to remember the films that made it what it is today.
I have no idea what this sentence means.
post #76 of 108
Didnt like Sin City much either, I read a review when it came out that said something like "Accuracy isn't the same thing as quality", which pretty much summed it up for me.

300 though looks fantastic, its not meant to be a serious exploration of history, its based on a comic so it can be as ridiculous as it wants, and considering its Frank Miller its going to be really ridiculous. I generally hate the whole 'shooting an entire movie infront of green screen' approach but for some reason I dont mind it with this movie. Although I'm talking about the excellent trailer, the movie itself might bore me, just like Sin City and that crappy film with Jude Law and Angelina Jolie did, whatever it was called.

Till I see it though, I'm pretty excited.
post #77 of 108
While Sparta wasn't fascist in the strictest sense, I don't think it's particularly crazy to say that it was pretty close to fascism. They had all the qualities listed in Martin Savage's Wiki excerpt except corporatism, and their intense anti-materialism and strict control of trade could be considered a sort of inverse of that.

It reminds me of the debate over "Islamofascism" we were having in the political thread a few weeks ago. But I think you can make a far better case for Sparta as fascist the various modern Islamic insurgents.
post #78 of 108
[QUOTE=Yas]
Cannot wait for this to come - I hope it leads to the awards that Sin City got passed over for - Hollywood needs to remember the films that made it what it is today.

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I too am completely puzzled by this. Sin City somehow made Hollywood what it is? And what awards did it deserve? Certainly not acting, although Rourke was good. The score was forgettable. The screenplay and direction were lifted so directly from the comic that I can't give any great credit there either.
post #79 of 108
The only things I can think of are cinematography and editing, and even then, only nominations. It certainly didn't deserve to win.
post #80 of 108
Cinematography? Meh. You could say it's stylish, but I'd call it gimmicky.
post #81 of 108
I'm amazed by how thoroughly they can scour the net to remove unauthorized releases like this. I just googled "300", "frank miller" and "trailer" hoping to find some obscure mirror and got only 2 hits, in total. How is that even possible? I don't think I've ever had as few as 2 hits, even when the words are misspelled. Do they block it on google's end or something?

EDIT - lol, ignore this, I searched "3oo" not "300". 300 gets the expected number of hits.
post #82 of 108
There' was a good number them on YouTube earlier today, but Creevy's already black bagged them. I don't know why pulling the trailer is so big a concern for them--there's a ton of of anticipation to get ramped up here. But, hey, it Warner--smart marketing isn't exactly on their rap sheet this year.
post #83 of 108
youtube is empty but I found it here - hxxp://www.firstshowing.net/2006/09/20/300-trailer/

looks ok. I'd probably be more excited if I'd read 300 before. As it stands I don't really get much from the clip, this era has sort of been done to death over the last few years. The cgi environment and stylization of sin city felt like it belonged, it seems out of place here for some reason. Then again this is an early clip so I'll keep an open mind.
post #84 of 108
Check eMule. I found it pretty quick.

Edit: No I didn't. /me reminds himself to check content before posting to thread.
post #85 of 108
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Originally Posted by Martin Savage
Here's Wiki to help you a bit:



Go inform yourself before saying stuff like that.
chill out. you quoted my excuse that i was drunk, which i was, and i know i was wrong, which is why i posted my excuse. Relax, don't take bulletin boards so seriously.
post #86 of 108
Finally watched it. Badass, I must say. Hard to tell from the trailer, but the speed-up/slow-down shit doesn't seem as bad as I was expecting. Of course it's just snippets, so the final film could be chock full of it. I just watched Brotherhood of the Wolf again today, and I was reminded how irksone that technique can be.
post #87 of 108
post #88 of 108
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAtxUibToDU

That link works for now.

It feels like a Mortal Kombat Retro Sequel. I never read the book either.
post #89 of 108
Ahem....

Films that push the barriers of cinema to incorporate brand new qualities should be awarded. Sin City is a film like this, as was LOTR, as was Sky Captain. Im not saying theyre perfect movies - each one has its flaws - Im just saying they should be getting awards over the usual melodramatic morality tales that Hollywood seems to think are 'real movies'. I think 300 has the potential to be a 'landmark' film in the way we look at cinema tools.

Gangster films started Hollywood, then they pushed it to make westerns, then huge epic historical dramas - there was a need to push the limits of what we see at the flicks that isnt inherent now. If it was, we wouldnt have people like Ashton Kutcher, Orlando Bloom or Paris hilton on movie posters.

There was a time when films were like shoes - handmade, italian and specific to a specific group of people. Now everyone wears Nikes, mass-produced, plastic and aimed at 12 year olds.

Sin City didnt get showered with awards, I hope 300 does - because good or bad, it seems to be original in a big way.

Is that any clearer?
post #90 of 108
What good are awards if they celebrate bad films?
post #91 of 108
Are you talking about 300, which you havent even seen yet, or making a rather pointless statement?

Bad films are based on opinion, and awards are just a mulitplied opinion themselves. The Oscars barely give awards to the right people or the right films. The best films arent even nominated a lot of time. Eternal Sunshine barely got looked at because of 'Crash', Sam Jackson lost to Landau, Halle Berry got one!?!?!

I think Snyder is a great director and I think the story of the 300 Spartans is a fantastic one. A real story about courage and bravery that doesnt involve cancer, bruce springsteen songs or Hilary Swank.

Its not about awards really, its about recognition.
post #92 of 108
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Originally Posted by Yas
Are you talking about 300, which you havent even seen yet, or making a rather pointless statement?
You haven't seen it yet either, and yet you're hoping 300 wins all the awards that SIN CITY (rightly) failed to collect. Wouldn't it make more sense to simply say, "I hope 300 is a good film?" Awards are irrelevant, especially if you personally like the film. Your lust for a film you haven't seen to win awards seems to be a far more pointless endeavor.
post #93 of 108
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
I have to be the first to dissent and say "meh".
Can we fucking retire that word already?


As for the trailer, it's good but a little on the shouty side. Still, what's being shouted sounds cool as shit so it goes back to being awesome. Looking forward to it myself.
post #94 of 108
I just find it funny that Yas refers to movies that are "plastic" and "aimed at 12 year olds" in defense of Sin City.
post #95 of 108
I'll wait till I see a better quality trailer before I'll make a judgment on the effects. It looks like an "alternate earth" Battle of Thermopylae, and I've liked fantasy films since seeing Jason and the Argonauts as a kid, so I might enjoy 300.
post #96 of 108
I agree the story of 300 Spartans is a fantastic one. But this movie is a fantasy, and presented as such. It has very little to do with the actual story of the 300 Spartans sent to Thermopylae. It's merely a very dramatic romanticized version of events.
post #97 of 108
Finally manged to see the trailer with sound and I'm blown away. It certainly looks artificial, but in my opinion in a *good* way. And:
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Originally Posted by 300 trailer
-The thousand nations of the Persian empire descend upon you. Our arrows will blot out the sun.
-Then we will fight in the shade.
2007 can't come soon enough.
post #98 of 108
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Originally Posted by First Class 782
I agree the story of 300 Spartans is a fantastic one. But this movie is a fantasy, and presented as such. It has very little to do with the actual story of the 300 Spartans sent to Thermopylae. It's merely a very dramatic romanticized version of events.
Exactly. It's the Greek myth version of events, not how they actually went down. It's what Troy should have been.
post #99 of 108
Don't say that, it makes me weep over the lost opportunities that that film represents.
post #100 of 108
Let's take this paragraph by paragraph, shall we?

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Originally Posted by Yas
Are you talking about 300, which you havent even seen yet, or making a rather pointless statement?
As someone pointed out, the same can be said for you.

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Bad films are based on opinion, and awards are just a mulitplied opinion themselves. The Oscars barely give awards to the right people or the right films. The best films arent even nominated a lot of time. Eternal Sunshine barely got looked at because of 'Crash', Sam Jackson lost to Landau, Halle Berry got one!?!?!
So, award shows are imperfect so 300 should get awards? What exactly are you saying?

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I think Snyder is a great director and I think the story of the 300 Spartans is a fantastic one. A real story about courage and bravery that doesnt involve cancer, bruce springsteen songs or Hilary Swank.
I say you're wrong. Snyder has no sense of rhythm or pacing. His stuff is all atmosphere and no storytelling.

As to courage, the same can be said of what happened at the Alamo and we all know how that movie turned out. True stories of courage do not always end up as good movies.

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Its not about awards really, its about recognition.
Ah, contradicting your earlier statement. You're actually pissed that Sin City didn't get the recognition that you thought it deserved. Perhaps you should have said that.

Sin City got just enough recognition, in my books. It's a neat story in quirky packaging. There's no way it was good enough or interesting enough to set the world on fire. It got the recognition of "That was pretty cool" and that's all it deserved. The lack of a unique storyline or unique performances disqualifies it as a revolutionary filmmaking despite it looking different.
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