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post #1 of 16
9/29/06 at 12:23am
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http://creature-corner.com/?type=news&id=1698

Which format are you leaning towards?
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post #2 of 16
9/29/06 at 1:17am
I'll stick with regular DVDs.
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post #3 of 16
9/29/06 at 8:11am
I'll wait until a winner is declared. I saw the betamax Vs VHS fiasco, and will not be a party to it's second comming.

And Hollywood is once again proving how little respect they have for their end consumers. They should have made a consensus before putting ANY films out in an HD-Format.
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post #4 of 16
9/29/06 at 9:33am
With my limited experience of both Blu-ray and HD-DVD it seems that the transfer is the most important aspect of the release. If it has been touched up and re-mastered the HD release will look terrific, if not, it will look like a pile of crap and you're probably better off with normal DVD's.

I'm going to sit on the fence as long as it takes for one of these formats (or both) to disappear. Well, at least, until the hard-ware goes way down in price and we can buy dual format players.

By the way, is Hitch a horror release?....Yes, yes I think it is.
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post #5 of 16
9/29/06 at 2:49pm
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well the transfer is important. but just think of hd-dvd as a higher resolution dvd so you see alot more of the scratches and dirt on the film in addition to details. some movies you can practically see the makeup cracking on the actors face. whether thats good or bad is up to you, but seeing the blemishes and marks on a film dont necessarily ruin it for me, in some cases it can add to the film's overall look. in fact, alot of directors are adding that kind of stuff on purpose to make their film look grittier.
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post #6 of 16
9/29/06 at 3:16pm
So, what happened with DVD that made that agreed upon? That seemed to work out for everyone. Why can't they do that again?
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post #7 of 16
9/29/06 at 3:28pm
Because DVD stormed the gates, opening the home theatre market to a whole new level of moneymaking.

Now everyone wants a bigger piece of the pie(s).
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post #8 of 16
9/29/06 at 5:57pm
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I think that high definition is more than about money. its actually pretty sweet and it blows dvd away. it sucks that they have this whole format war going on, but if you've got an hd tv i think you're doing yourself a diservice by not getting an hd-dvd player.

Personally, I dont have a HD player yet, but I'm going to get an HD-DVD one before christmas. The Xbox HD-DVD add on is going to only cost 200 bucks, which is a good deal but there is no word on if they are releasing an hdmi cable, which is necessary to acheive true 1080p high definition with most tv's. now my tv actually supports 1080p through component video cables, but i guess most only support 1080p through hdmi. I should also add that if you're thinking about getting an hdtv, don't settle for less than 1080p. The movies that I have experienced in HD, courtesy of comcast (hbo hd, cinemax hd, etc) have been amazing. This fall, cinemax is going to show all six star wars films in HD. I know HD is pricey (god knows I shouldnt have it but thats why he made the best buy credit card), but its an amazing way to see your favorite movies in a whole new way. The upgrade over DVD is significant.

I just think its a really exciting time as more horror films like The Thing and Slither make there way to HD-DVD. But maybe the shortage of hd horror films has something to do with the lack of love horror fans seem to have for HD.
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post #9 of 16
9/29/06 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin VanNatter
....The upgrade over DVD is significant....
Thus far I have not been swayed, though I'm certain that early adopters that are themselves composed of 10% of the market would argue otherwise. The DigitalBits guys, for example, seem to have a pretty good grasp on things, but the handful of folks I know who are interested in the new HD formats are not educated enough on the subject and will very likely get burned big time.

And you may want to give these and other forums a search before committing to an expensive new TV, as there has been some great discussion about this very subject many times before. Since SED will emerge next year and likely drive prices of current-tech down, and because there are a number of HD myths being foisted upon the public as sacrosanct at the present, I wouldn't rush into things if I were you.
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post #10 of 16
9/29/06 at 6:20pm
But in response to the question the article and this thread poses, I agree with our 53rd Lover of Chunks: DVD does fine by me.

I can see the appeal of the striking vision all those aged imperfections can produce in high-def, but I really can't bring myself to care. Even with modern films, current HD movies I've seen on displays, be they HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, look little better to me than the same title on an upconverted DVD.
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post #11 of 16
9/29/06 at 6:35pm
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
So, what happened with DVD that made that agreed upon? That seemed to work out for everyone. Why can't they do that again?
We almost had another formatting war with SCD's and DVDs in the early nineties. Sony wasn't the financial juggernaut they are now, and still had the scars from the Betamax showing. The DVD trumped the SCD in everything except storage space, so Sony was fighting a losing battle from the start, which is why they agreed to collaborate and combine the SCD with the early version of the DVD to create the dual-layer, 4.7 GB digital video (or versatile) disc. The early DVDs were designed to hold 5 gigs, but Sony's SCD had a component that made it read and play faster, at a cost of capacity.

The difference is that Sony now has the financial muscle to play ball with their own format, and the difference between the Blu-Ray and the HDDVD aren't that great--there's little one has to offer the other to compell the companies to meet in the middle again.
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post #12 of 16
9/29/06 at 6:43pm
I'm going to stick with dvd for now, and I think it's ridiculous how some of the companies are going exclusive with one side, instead of going with both like all companies do when they put out movies on regular dvd.
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post #13 of 16
9/29/06 at 9:07pm
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I guess the question I was trying to raise was if you had to choose between the two formats, which set of studios would you, as a horror fan, go with?

Its pointless to discuss if HD is worth it or not since so many people don't own HD Tv's or dvd players and they're basing their opinion on something they've never experienced in their living room (which can be a much difference experience than seeing it in the store or reading about it in a forum).

I was just trying to have a little fun with the hypothetical here. I just think HD-DVD has a better set of studios as far as horror movies go. Even if you think HD-DVD and Blu-ray are a waste or a money making ploy, which one would you pick if somebody was giving you a 61" samsung DLP 1080p television and a choice of HD-DVD or Blu-Ray and you never have to pay for a dvd for that player as long as they come out? Maybe thats a stupid question to bring up. In that case, I'd like to have a moment of your time to talk about global warming.
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post #14 of 16
9/29/06 at 9:08pm
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and for the record, Hitch scared the shit out of me. I couldn't sleep for a week.
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post #15 of 16
9/30/06 at 12:38pm
Oh.

HD-DVD, then.

Fun on the forums, what a novel concept!
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post #16 of 16
10/4/06 at 8:25pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobblemonkey
Oh.

HD-DVD, then.

Fun on the forums, what a novel concept!
good times! go tigers!
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