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post #1 of 145
9/29/06 at 3:54am
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...not funny. He's an overrated, oversold, vapid fratboy who's jokes rely on mostly getting shitfaced, hazing and edgy stuff like ...relationships or profound observations begining with, 'Hey, I hate it when...' His wordsmithing is pedestrian and he thinks screaming is the only way to a good punchline.

I could live without the constant use of 'bro" and "dude."

Do we need a younger, better-looking version of Jay Leno?

I predict, come 2009 when Conan kicks that hack Leno out on his ass, Cook will be wooed and groomed as Conan's replacement. Yeesh, a reverse situation of what we have now. *sigh.
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post #2 of 145
9/29/06 at 4:05am
Not if Carson Daly has anything to say about it.

At least Dane can make people laugh.
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post #3 of 145
9/29/06 at 5:13am
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Cook is hardly funny. Maybe in a goofy, in-the-moment, party-guy sort of way, but not a legitimate lasting way. He'll never be mentioned along side the greats of Seinfeld, Carlin, Miller, Hicks, Rock and Pryor. Not even next to slummers like Ramono or Saget. Larry the Cable Guy most definitely.

I never thought anyone could be more boring than Charlie Rose. Daley wins it, hands down. Has no idea what makes a good interview or what's funny or what's not. A fucking blackhole.

There is no way in hell he'll be Conan's replacement. Then again if that idiot Irishman can follow Letterman, anythings possible.
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post #4 of 145
9/29/06 at 5:18am
In a perfect world the title in 2009 would read "Late Night with Jon Stewart".
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post #5 of 145
9/29/06 at 5:52am
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That would be a damn fine block of tv. Not since Dave followed Johnny.
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post #6 of 145
9/29/06 at 9:12am
I take it, you are not a fan.
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post #7 of 145
9/29/06 at 9:25am
And he's angry.
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post #8 of 145
9/29/06 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by General Zod
Cook is hardly funny. Maybe in a goofy, in-the-moment, party-guy sort of way, but not a legitimate lasting way. He'll never be mentioned along side the greats of Seinfeld, Carlin, Miller, Hicks, Rock and Pryor. Not even next to slummers like Ramono or Saget. Larry the Cable Guy most definitely.

Nail. Meet hammerhead.

Zollicoffer, yes, he makes people laugh, but so does Jay Leno*.


*Didn't Jay Leno used to be funny? I remember his "my beef" bits that he did on Letterman as being pretty good.
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post #9 of 145
9/29/06 at 10:22am
He's okay. He's not terrible, but I think I'd rather see pretty much anyone else host the season premiere of SNL.
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post #10 of 145
9/29/06 at 10:23am
Dane Cook isn't a traditional comedian. He is a stage performer who tells funny little anecdotes. That's the way I look at him. Its not a standup comedy routine, it's more like a stage show.
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post #11 of 145
9/29/06 at 11:14am
The thing with Dane Cook is that, yes, his stand up skills are padestrian at best, but with the level of his sales of both albums and concert tickets, he's kinda making stand up seem a lot more viable as mass entertainment to the people who decide what gets pushed. If David Cross and his ilk get a little more attention from their labels because stand up is selling well, I'm pretty ok with a shitty comedian getting a whole lot of press.
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post #12 of 145
9/29/06 at 11:15am
I think Dane Cook is fuckin hilarious. His stories may lack that serious political undercurrent that punctuates comedians such as Hicks and Rock, but so what? He makes me laugh. I'm always interested to see how the tide turns against anything that becomes mainstream. I distinctly remember chewers jacking off to Retaliation when it was first released... What the fuck happened?
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post #13 of 145
9/29/06 at 11:23am
I as well fucking him funny as hell, we have different tastes...of course not as good as Carlin but Cook is just fun to listen too
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post #14 of 145
9/29/06 at 11:29am
"Let's do this. I'm a cashew."

I haven't laughed that hard to a recent routine in a long time. (I know Retaliation is old, but in comparison to the stand up comedians I listen to, this is new to me.) I do think that Dane is a one note comedian though. His HBO special, "Vicious Circle," was not funny at all and he recycled almost half of his set from Reataliation.
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post #15 of 145
9/29/06 at 11:48am
I watched part of his HBO special, and I couldn't get over how he was being treated like some kind of rock god and the audience was falling all over themselves laughing at absolutely nothing.

Dane Cook should die in a fire.
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post #16 of 145
9/29/06 at 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by Peter Venkman
I as well fucking him funny as hell, we have different tastes...of course not as good as Carlin but Cook is just fun to listen too
you've had intercourse with Cook AND Carlin?
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post #17 of 145
9/29/06 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
I watched part of his HBO special, and I couldn't get over how he was being treated like some kind of rock god and the audience was falling all over themselves laughing at absolutely nothing.
Yeah, Cook fans are definitely the Browncoats of the comedy world.

Celebrating a Dane Cook album is like having an orgasm over a McDonald's hamburger. So what if he's bringing more attention to the stand-up world? His fans have such shitty taste that it's not like they'll respond to any of the truly good comedians.
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post #18 of 145
9/29/06 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
I watched part of his HBO special, and I couldn't get over how he was being treated like some kind of rock god and the audience was falling all over themselves laughing at absolutely nothing.

Dane Cook should die in a fire.
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to have his fans die in a fire, preferably at a Cook show?

As far as his comedy, I think Cook is okay. There are some pretty great moments on "Harmful If Swallowed" and "Retaliation" helped relieve the boredom of a four-hour drive from Nashville. Still, for my money, there are much better comedians working today. They just don't have the business acumen of Cook.
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post #19 of 145
9/29/06 at 1:03pm
I was more disparaging Daly with my comments, but I'll give my feelings on Cook.

I've always told people how I think he's sorta, kinda, barely funny. He does have an attitude that can make you laugh, he's got a lot of charisma, but his stuff isn't all that great. He has made me crack a laugh a few times, probably because of that. But yeah, that Vicious Circle thing is ridiculous. Those people do treat him like a god. He is thus severely overrated.
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post #20 of 145
9/29/06 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by Matt Goldberg
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to have his fans die in a fire, preferably at a Cook show?
Actually, that's an excellent point. It wasn't so much that Cook was bad (he was completely average), it was that the audience was acting as if everything he uttered was pure comedy gold, and they'd never in their lives heard such amazing insights. I was like "OK, that made me chuckle, but you people are rolling in the aisles and flailing about like you're having seizures! It wasn't THAT fucking funny."
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post #21 of 145
9/29/06 at 1:48pm
I feel the same way about David Cross and Patton Oswalt.
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post #22 of 145
9/29/06 at 2:01pm
Cook is pretty decent, but hilarious? Nope.

However, this made me laugh once:
SOMEBODY SHIT ON THE COATS!!!!!!
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post #23 of 145
9/29/06 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
Actually, that's an excellent point. It wasn't so much that Cook was bad (he was completely average), it was that the audience was acting as if everything he uttered was pure comedy gold, and they'd never in their lives heard such amazing insights. I was like "OK, that made me chuckle, but you people are rolling in the aisles and flailing about like you're having seizures! It wasn't THAT fucking funny."
Maybe there was a ten-drink minimum.
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post #24 of 145
9/29/06 at 2:13pm
I think he's been funny, for sure. I really liked a lot of Harmful if Swallowed. But, as he gets more famous, he's becoming not as funny. His ego was out of control on Tourgasm. What an annoying show. The bits I saw from his new stand-up special weren't that funny. He really has turned himself into this very successful brand, but his comedy has really suffered.
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post #25 of 145
9/29/06 at 2:31pm
Cook's resolutely mediocre to me. He's brought a smile to my face once or twice, but even when his material rises above the average, it's scuppered by the general air of 'I'm fucking hot shit' that he exudes.

Obviously, as a good looking white guy with a brash delivery and college crowd appeal, he's a marketing person's dream, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him join Andrew Dice Clay on the list of Comics That Were White Hot For Two-and-a-half Minutes.
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post #26 of 145
9/29/06 at 2:44pm
Plus, there's the whole scummy stealing-bits-from-Louis-CK thing.
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post #27 of 145
9/29/06 at 3:09pm
Cook is a blatant joke thief according to Joe Rogan. Say what you will about Rogan but he is always quick to publicly out a joke thief and stand by what he says. He has previously called out Robin Williams, Dennis Leary and Carlos Mencia.
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post #28 of 145
9/29/06 at 3:15pm
For better or worse, he's the perfect comedian for the W. era.
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post #29 of 145
9/29/06 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by Mad Man Mundt
Cook is a blatant joke thief according to Joe Rogan. Say what you will about Rogan but he is always quick to publicly out a joke thief and stand by what he says. He has previously called out Robin Williams, Dennis Leary and Carlos Mencia.
The problem with accusing folks of stealing jokes is that with observational humor the guy telling the story/jokes is not the only one who has noticed these things. Therefore it isn't hard to make the same observations as someone else. I know that thievery takes place in that business all the time (usually by unfunny upstarts), but I guess I just find it hard to wrap my mind around the idea that Leary could be a Joke-thief.

Oh, and I agree that Cook is not all that great.
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post #30 of 145
9/29/06 at 3:39pm
http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/review/2.../03/dane_cook/

This offers pretty damning evidence against.
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post #31 of 145
9/29/06 at 4:01pm
The problem isn't mining similar material--how many comedians have some variation on "my wife has kee-razy mood swings?"--it's the aping of the entire structure and pacing of a particular joke, right down to the inflection on the punchline. And in that sense, Cook is a fucking thief. No two ways about it.
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post #32 of 145
9/29/06 at 4:02pm
And the Superfinger is pretty faggy, too. Just saying.
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post #33 of 145
9/29/06 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by bobblemonkey
I know that thievery takes place in that business all the time (usually by unfunny upstarts), but I guess I just find it hard to wrap my mind around the idea that Leary could be a Joke-thief.

Many people are of the opinion that good chunks of Leary's No Cure For Cancer are lifted from Bill Hicks.
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post #34 of 145
9/29/06 at 4:37pm
The other side of the coin

http://chud.com/forums/showthread.ph...ight=Dane+Cook
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post #35 of 145
9/29/06 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by Mad Man Mundt
Many people are of the opinion that good chunks of Leary's No Cure For Cancer are lifted from Bill Hicks.
Now that you mention it, that's more than plausible. I won't argue with that.
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post #36 of 145
9/29/06 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by Slater
The problem isn't mining similar material--how many comedians have some variation on "my wife has kee-razy mood swings?"--it's the aping of the entire structure and pacing of a particular joke, right down to the inflection on the punchline. And in that sense, Cook is a fucking thief. No two ways about it.
In Cook's case, I wholly agree. But he caters to a crowd that wouldn't typically notice, inebriated or not.
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post #37 of 145
9/29/06 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by General Zod
...not funny. He's an overrated, oversold, vapid fratboy who's jokes rely on mostly getting shitfaced, hazing and edgy stuff like ...relationships or profound observations begining with, 'Hey, I hate it when...' His wordsmithing is pedestrian and he thinks screaming is the only way to a good punchline.
Awesome. Just today I was logging into myspace and Dane Cook is staring at me and I was just thinking how not-funny that guy is.
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post #38 of 145
9/29/06 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by Kevin Matchstick
I think he's been funny, for sure. I really liked a lot of Harmful if Swallowed. But, as he gets more famous, he's becoming not as funny. His ego was out of control on Tourgasm. What an annoying show. The bits I saw from his new stand-up special weren't that funny. He really has turned himself into this very successful brand, but his comedy has really suffered.
I agree with this completely. I saw him on Comedy Central a few years ago and thought he had a great future ahead of him. Unfortunately he got caught up in the celebrity of it all. He's still got some really solid bits, but overall he's just not as good.

And the Salon article pretty much killed it for me.
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post #39 of 145
9/29/06 at 9:23pm
Haven't seen him in anything outside of Simon Sez. Anyone who has seen him in that will know intimately the feeling of being so pissed-offedly dumbfounded that you can't even find the energy to be outraged.
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post #40 of 145
9/29/06 at 9:51pm
I keep confusing Cook with Greg Behrendt.

Now Behrendt's a guy whose 15 minutes are way fucking up.
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post #41 of 145
9/29/06 at 10:32pm
That's because they're both posers who are trying desperately hard to be "cool" while also being barely funny at all. I mean dude, you know what I'm saying here bro, totally. You might as well throw Ty Pennington into that group of posers, it's not like he's less funny really. That Salon article was good. I like how Joe Rogan is the chief of the hacked jokes police, I mean that non-sarcastically, I appreciate what he's doing. Not to mention the fact that Rogan's standup is infinitely funnier than Cook's. The sad thing is that most people who go to his shows are probably mostly going because he's the guy on Fear Factor. The recurring theme of course being that most people have really bad senses of humor.
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post #42 of 145
9/29/06 at 10:58pm
Joe Rogan's main problem is that he's not really good. The only press he's getting is from these accusations, Fear Factor and him doing MMA.

He can call out whoever he wants, he's still unfunny. On a Dane Cook level.
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post #43 of 145
9/30/06 at 12:54am
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Exactly, Rogan has never been any good. Hosting a show where people eat donkey cock and drink each other's vomit doesn't exactly give him room to talk. I would think being a comedian would require some form of joke telling. Rogan needs to crawl back into his pot. Is not, never was funny. Newsradio's greatness had zero to do with him. He comes off as a guy who I bet enjoyed his tenure as a high school jock asshole bully.
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post #44 of 145
9/30/06 at 12:57am
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Originally Posted by Gatorboy
I keep confusing Cook with Greg Behrendt.

Now Behrendt's a guy whose 15 minutes are way fucking up.
He has a daytime talkshow now. Guess what? It's about relationships.

Add him to the list of pussy comedians.
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post #45 of 145
9/30/06 at 1:03am
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Originally Posted by CaptainZahn
He's okay. He's not terrible, but I think I'd rather see pretty much anyone else host the season premiere of SNL.

Me too. His stint last year was painful. All I recall is some dumb bit about putting cashews on the end of his cock and eating them. That's suppose to be funny?
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post #46 of 145
9/30/06 at 1:34am
Rogen was great on Newsradio. Cook has been great in nothing.

Rogen wins.
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post #47 of 145
9/30/06 at 1:44am
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That is a good point.
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post #48 of 145
9/30/06 at 1:48am
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Originally Posted by General Zod
Me too. His stint last year was painful. All I recall is some dumb bit about putting cashews on the end of his cock and eating them. That's suppose to be funny?
I'd love to see someone like Zach Galifianakis get the chance to host. Maybe someday.
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post #49 of 145
9/30/06 at 2:54am
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He had a show on VH1 for about two minutes that was excellent. A great choice.
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post #50 of 145
9/30/06 at 4:07am
Zod and Martin, have you seen Rogan's standup? It's easily better than Cook's, he can talk all he wants. Although, he does spazz out too much (like Cook) which is a little annoying. Youtube doesn't have any of his better material but take a look at this anyway.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_YxKVw9UnqY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvPW8lTI3No
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