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Miami Vice on 12/5

post #1 of 67
9/29/06 at 7:00pm
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from the digital bits

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Now then... the big news today is that Universal has officially announced the DVD and HD-DVD release of Michael Mann's Miami Vice on 12/5. The film will be available in separate R and Unrated Director's Cut versions on DVD (SRP $29.98). Extras are TBA on the single-disc sets, but expect anamorphic widescreen video and Dolby Digital 5.1 audio. The theatrical version will also be available as a DVD/HD-DVD Combo Format title (SRP $39.98), which will 1080p high-definition video (anamorphic widescreen of course) with both Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 and Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio.
so there calling it an unrated directord cut, wonder how much were getting back?
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post #2 of 67
9/29/06 at 7:13pm
Miami Vice on DVD on 12/5? Consider my copy bought and paid for.

I just hope when they get around to announcing the special features that they end up being good. Actually, I'd just like another great commentary from the Mann himself. I always used to just shelve director commentaries until I listened to Mann's for COLLATERAL. That was an amazing commentary track there.
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post #3 of 67
9/29/06 at 7:22pm
I wonder if the Unrated Director's cut will have those 30-45 minutes put back in. I hope so--I loved this flick, and more flourish is more than welcome.
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post #4 of 67
9/29/06 at 7:27pm
Apparently the unrated version will be a whole seven minutes longer.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/miami-vice5.html
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post #5 of 67
9/29/06 at 7:36pm
Bad news, that extra seven minutes is just an endless loop of Collin Farrell and Gong Li staring at each other longingly.

I kid, of course I'm buy this. Not to mention the eventual double dip.
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post #6 of 67
9/29/06 at 7:57pm
Way more than seven minutes waiting to be put back in. No doubt there'll be another edition in the future.

Vice is actually doing pretty damn well overseas - no doubt they'll try to squeeze every last drop from this puppy.
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post #7 of 67
9/29/06 at 8:41pm
And it's from Universal as well. So triple dips WILL happen.
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post #8 of 67
9/29/06 at 9:20pm
Just because it's seven minutes longer doesn't mean that only seven minutes are going back in. Mann certainly has the liberty to cut things out. I imagine the deleted speed boat race will go back in, along with other bits from the abridged first act.

Loved this film in theaters. Looking forward to seeing it again.
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post #9 of 67
9/30/06 at 1:05am
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that add on the linked page has one of the speed boats in it so we can only hope its back

be nice since there shitty HV head is gone they would give a heads up like WHV that better version will be around shortly ala blad runner, supes
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post #10 of 67
9/30/06 at 4:22pm
I missed it in theaters, so I'll blind buy the unrated version.
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post #11 of 67
10/1/06 at 4:13pm
I avoided some movies this summer due to the inevitable unrated DVD: Ricky Bobby, Pulse, The Hills Have Eyes, Jackass Number 2.

Miami Vice I just plain didn't get around to seeing. Kind of glad I missed it now.
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post #12 of 67
10/1/06 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon
Miami Vice I just plain didn't get around to seeing. Kind of glad I missed it now.
i wish i'd missed it.
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post #13 of 67
11/3/06 at 3:09pm


Ugh. What a lousy cover.

Features:

* Miami Vice Undercover Making-Of Featurette
* Miami and Beyond: Shooting on Location
* Visualizing Miami Vice Featurette
* Feature Commentary with writer-director-producer Michael Mann
* Behind-the-Scenes Featurettes

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/743/743527p1.html
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post #14 of 67
11/4/06 at 2:13am
More Vice related-news: TVShowsOnDVD recently reported a rumor that season 3 and 4 of MIAMI VICE are coming this March.
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post #15 of 67
11/4/06 at 1:14pm
I actually like the cover, and I'm buying the "unrated" cut to get Mann's commentary. Although after watching the "Ali" DC, I'm a little wary of these seven minutes. Granted, "Vice" is a far better film, but the stuff Mann added back into "Ali" was fat, pure and simple.
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post #16 of 67
11/4/06 at 2:14pm
Put me on the "pro" side of the cover as well.

I wish they'd release the 3rd season of the show around the same time as the movie. That would have made more sense to me.
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post #17 of 67
11/4/06 at 2:19pm
The cover looks like Bad Boys 3. No neon lights or pastel colors?
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post #18 of 67
11/4/06 at 2:53pm
They've done a really poor job of pasting those severed heads onto the armed-to-the-teeth bodies for that cover. I like the general principal of it, I just wish they'd used an existing shot instead of a composite.
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post #19 of 67
11/4/06 at 4:57pm
Is it just me, or is the word Featurette really off-putting for some reason?
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post #20 of 67
11/18/06 at 3:55am
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How is it different exactly? I talked about it with a couple of Univeral Home Video publicists today and it's a little hard to describe, but I'll give it a shot. What it boils down to is that 7 minutes of never-before-seen extra footage have been added. Or maybe 9 minutes. It depends how you define the word "minutes." But a lot of stuff has also been re-edited and/or shortened or recalculated -- about 19 minutes worth, the publicists said. So if you add it up it's got about 28 and 1/2 minutes of fresh stuff...in a sense. Or, if you want to be a hard-ass about it, 7 minutes worth with some editorial reshuffling thrown in
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so he gave it another shot and what came out is a different movie, to some extent. It starts with a boat chase instead of a nightclub scene, for one thing. I was hoping there'd be more footage of Gong Li naked, but the publicists disabused me of that dream.
from Jeff Wells
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post #21 of 67
11/18/06 at 4:17am
Going head to head with the Pirates DVD release seems like an awfully risky strategy to me.
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post #22 of 67
11/19/06 at 11:45pm
Okay, so he restructured the whole movie, which makes it a truly new cut I suppose. But I loved the nightclub opening, so I really hate to lose that. Dammit, I might get both cuts now.
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post #23 of 67
11/20/06 at 1:38am
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with you on that one stew, but the boat race at least from the shots in the trailer looks gorgeous so guees im just going to have to play it by ear when the reviews come out.
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post #24 of 67
11/20/06 at 9:33am
The re-editing is no surprise, since Mann did the same thing with the "director's cut" of Ali a few years ago. I'm very interested to see the differences for myself.
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post #25 of 67
11/20/06 at 10:32pm
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The re-editing is no surprise, since Mann did the same thing with the "director's cut" of Ali a few years ago. I'm very interested to see the differences for myself.
I don't remember anything of the theatrical cut of "Ali" being cut for the DC. He added back in, but he didn't delete.

If they were going to do this I just wish they'd put both cuts on one disc. I loved the opening to "Vice" with Lombardozzi posing as a John, Tubbs kneecapping the guy, and Sonny pimping at the bar. It just worked for me. I'm sure the boat chase is great, but I like the theatrical cut, and I hope none of my other favorite parts are gone.
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post #26 of 67
11/21/06 at 5:45am
I'll check out Miami Vice on dvd. It sounds like a decent movie, but didn't do too well at the B.O. I'm really looking forward to Gong Li's performance, and I heard that she outshines her two, more well-known, co-stars.
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post #27 of 67
11/22/06 at 3:05am
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decent is an understatement its another stellar Mann classic in my book, and its actually the second highest grossing Mann film thanks to international bo yet again, it up 162 million worldwide.
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post #28 of 67
11/22/06 at 5:40am
that's disappointing considering the budget. I loved it, but a lot of people in the cinema seemd restless during the Gong li / Farrell romantic interlude. One guy in the front row was taking photos of her in the shower with his mobile !
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post #29 of 67
11/22/06 at 10:21pm
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None of his movies make huge intial box office, no matter the budget they seem to make about 10 mil over whatever it cost. It was budgeted for 105 or so million then last years hurricane season hit, some overrun on a Mann film is enevitable but most of this was due to mother nature. But the shots of thunderstorm on film more than make up for it in my opinin. Mann films profts come from home video when 5 or so years later everyone realise how good it was.
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post #30 of 67
11/22/06 at 11:20pm
I didn't like it very much and I can't wait to watch it again. So that tells you something about the film.
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post #31 of 67
11/25/06 at 3:23am
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Drews take from AICN

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I’m glad Universal is putting both the theatrical cut and the unrated alternate cut on disc, because I think they’re both worthwhile.
the rest
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30799
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post #32 of 67
11/25/06 at 5:39pm
I forgot this came on out on the 5th. Which is good since I have a $2 Best Buy coupon which expires on the 6th! Huzzah!
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post #33 of 67
12/3/06 at 3:32am
I was fairly disappointed with the film to be honest. It didn't really feel like Miami Vice until the climax, which was admittedly solid.

The performances seem kind of dry and lifeless. Crockett and Tubbs never used to be this dull. Mann got a great performance out of Foxx in Collateral, so I don't know what happened here. For that matter the action scenes are more exciting in Collateral.

Oh well. At least it's pretty to look at.
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post #34 of 67
12/3/06 at 3:40am
Does anyone know if Crockett and Tubbs talk to each other in the Directors Cut?
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post #35 of 67
12/3/06 at 4:38am
I'd like to pick up the unrated cut this week, but I only have enough money for one new release, and I'm going to spring for Beerfest. So Miami Vice is going to have to wait a bit longer.
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post #36 of 67
12/3/06 at 2:04pm
I was really happy with this director's cut, but I am also a fan of the theatrical cut. One of the few movies I've seen this year that I paid another visit to while it was still in theaters.

MINOR SPOILERS



For those that complained that this movie didn't 'feel' like Miami Vice, whatever that means, this cut sends a little fuck off to you in the form of the Nonpoint remake playing over the actual film, near the final confrontation, and a little into it. It sort of created a little connection to the pilot of Vice, I think.

The additional footage mixes into the proceedings well, and actually does alot to further the characterizations and plot, and doesn't feel out of place at all.

The boat stuff at the beginning is fine and all, the movie works just fine without it.
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post #37 of 67
12/3/06 at 9:16pm
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yeah the whining doent equate for me either, I mean Smugglers Blues is a great episode and all, but this is something thats way more fleshed out and logical. Not to mention the tv show had five f'ing seasons to buils charachter.

I think im getting this instead of Deads Mans Chest, listen to any commentary yet Fordyce?
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post #38 of 67
12/3/06 at 10:24pm
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I was fairly disappointed with the film to be honest. It didn't really feel like Miami Vice until the climax, which was admittedly solid.
I had a feeling that you wouldn't enjoy it. Oh well, can't win them all.

I probably won't get to watch it until next weekend, but I'm definitely picking up the unrated cut on Tuesday. Hopefully I'll enjoy whatever changes were made from the theatrical release.
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post #39 of 67
12/3/06 at 11:07pm
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I think im getting this instead of Deads Mans Chest, listen to any commentary yet Fordyce?
Nope, just have a buddy who was watching the prestreet the other night. Just kind of lucked into watching it, right place, right time.
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post #40 of 67
12/4/06 at 12:42am
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I had a feeling that you wouldn't enjoy it. Oh well, can't win them all.

I probably won't get to watch it until next weekend, but I'm definitely picking up the unrated cut on Tuesday. Hopefully I'll enjoy whatever changes were made from the theatrical release.
Well, the technical side is great. I appreciated the use of real, exotic locations and (I assume) heavily researched inside look at today's drug trade.

I guess I was puzzled why Mann didn't go with the sort of colorful, charismatic characters that populate the original TV series, Heat, and Collateral.
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post #41 of 67
12/4/06 at 12:52am
I thought a lot of the characters were charismatic. There may not have been as many as there were in HEAT, or had the time to reveal as much about themselves as COLLATERAL (which is more of a character study in crime drama clothing) but you have no doubt in the film that these guys know the ins and out of their profession and how to maintain themselves in a dangerous surrounding.
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post #42 of 67
12/4/06 at 5:04pm
That's not being charismatic, though, that's just being professional. And that's fine for a documentary, but an action movie based on a TV show with charismatic characters had further to reach than it did.
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post #43 of 67
12/4/06 at 5:12pm
I think you're confusing charisma with the ability for characters to rattle of some good jokes like TV Crockett and Tubbs were able to do. I found the characters interesting in that their actions and mannerisms sold me on the fact that they were cops who knew how to get inside a powerful criminal enterprise.

Plus, it's not an action movie.
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post #44 of 67
12/4/06 at 5:34pm
Jokes would have been nice, but it's more than that. The characters are iconic, but their portrayal in the film, and the relationship between them, was too subdued for me.
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post #45 of 67
12/4/06 at 6:22pm
I love stuff like LETHAL WEAPON, TANGO & CASH, and RUNNING SCARED but I don't need that from every movie focusing on 2 cops bringing down drug dealers.

I liked the show and movie both for what they were. They have as many similarities as they do differences and both worked well in their respective mediums.
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post #46 of 67
12/4/06 at 6:27pm
Yeah I saw this last week (prestreet) and the directors cut is good but not vastly superior to the theatrical cut.

The extra moments with Gong Li were good.

DVD is pretty solid actually.
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post #47 of 67
12/4/06 at 9:27pm
Good to hear. Vice cut $100 mil overseas recently, so it might actually dip towards the black when all is said and done.
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post #48 of 67
12/5/06 at 10:41am
Are there big changes in the unrated cut ?
Apparently the nonpoint version of "In the air tonight" is in the film, replacing some of John Murphy's (good) score in the scene when they arrive in Miami before going to the trailer park. According to someone who heard the commentary Mann prefers the song over Murphy's score. Personally I really liked Murphy's music - guess i'll have to watch the unrated version. Mann says it's not a director's cut - but a different film, a revision. Sounds like he could have used more time before the release date.
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post #49 of 67
12/5/06 at 5:10pm
Subtle changes I doubt most will notice outside the new opening stuff. Yeah I noticed the difference when that remake of In the Air Tonight (Should have kept Phil's original) came on at the end.

Like I said its good but its not a dramatic improvement. It enrichs the experience more.
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post #50 of 67
12/5/06 at 5:31pm
So I decided not not buy Vice, but I am going to rent this weekend. For someone who hasn't seen the film, which version would you guys recommend?
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