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post #101 of 878
Well, I mean the show is filmed in LA so I don't exactly get uppity about it. I then spent five minutes trying to figure out which bowling alley it was.
post #102 of 878
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Because I poured my blood, sweat and tears into creating the perfect thread for season 2: http://chud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104105
Sorry Chris Anthony.........
post #103 of 878
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Yeah, I'm sorry Chris. I debated whether or not I should post my season 2 thoughts here or in the thread you hand crafted yourself. Spent a good hour thinking it over before I realized that I created this thread a year ago. I couldn't stand to cheat on myself.
post #104 of 878
Oh well. It was a really good season opener that set a lot of good story lines in motion (the big tattooed guy in particular should be interesting) and that they went ahead and killed off Paul (never liked face). I am also a bit miffed as to why Dexter would dump the bodies in the exact same spot over all that time. He couldn't be bothered to drive a couple knots out in a different direction?
post #105 of 878
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I dig how Rita is a bit more authoritative, at least so far. It'll cause Dexter some trouble since he sort of counts on her to be passive in terms of their relationship.
post #106 of 878
The Rudy bit at the very end of the second episode for season 2 scared me right good.
post #107 of 878
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Originally Posted by Chris Anthony
I am also a bit miffed as to why Dexter would dump the bodies in the exact same spot over all that time. He couldn't be bothered to drive a couple knots out in a different direction?
After all the times he talks about rituals involved with killing, and his own killing rituals, you really have to ask this?
post #108 of 878
Exactly. The dumping area is just as much a part of the ritual as the plastic wrap and heavy duty garbage bags.

I thought it was a really great opener. I liked how they brought the beating heart thing full circle at the end. It will be interesting to see how Dexter handles what is effectively two separate investigations against him while trying to continue his work.
post #109 of 878
I just watched episode two of this new season, and I think it might be the best episode yet. Everyone who I love (Dexter, his sister, Doakes, his girlfriend, his brother) is absolutely brilliant. It expertly closes as many thread as it opens. I was constantly hoping that the episode wouldn't end, but when it did it was a complete episodic closure. Damn, this has to be one of the best horror shows ever.
post #110 of 878
His brother?!
post #111 of 878
Just watch it, I don't want to give any more away than I have. It's an awesome piece of T.V. that should be seen with fresh eyes.
post #112 of 878
Now that's how you raise the stakes in a premiere. Great stuff.

Carradine looks very John Douglas this season. Can't wait.
post #113 of 878
I liked how reserved Hall played the Rita accusation scene, how you could see him thinking it through as it played out.
post #114 of 878
What episode are we on for Season 2? I watched the first 2 episodes a while back, and want to make sure I don't miss any new ones.

Also, so far this has been a fantastic way to start off season 2. I get so tense while watching this show, it's unbelievable.
post #115 of 878
2nd episode was lastnight.
post #116 of 878
"I will not kill my sister, I will not kill my sister, I will not kill my sister."

This is my favorite show on tv right now.
post #117 of 878
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Originally Posted by Jack "Sue" Dnim
I liked how reserved Hall played the Rita accusation scene, how you could see him thinking it through as it played out.
Yeah, that was great. I'd echo pretty much everything Graynadian said above. The only thing I didn't like was how stupid Dexter was when he made his second run at the giant. He certainly made up for that the third time, though.
post #118 of 878
Second episode didn't do much for me, but that's because it's the necessary evil of a setup episode. Also, when did Dexter switch from a motorized cutter to stabbing downwards with a dagger? That kinda bugged me.
post #119 of 878
I'm not sure how I feel about the whole "I'm an addict" sub-plot. Actually I found his girlfriend shrill and irritating for most of the second episode. Hope they take it somewhere interesting, but the previews aren't giving me much hope. Nevertheless, I'll be watching.
post #120 of 878
The acting in season 1 was a tad awful to begin with (Hall being the exception) and either it got better or the story became engaging enough for me to ignore it. 2 episodes in and it seems to have been reset to bad. Mostly the sis - again. The "Hey, it's the ice truck killer's girlfriend! Give us a smile" bit in episode 1 and the bar/elbow to the face scene in episode 2 - both really took me out of the show.

Also, I'm with Singer on the addiction subplot. Seems a stretch for her to jump to that conclusion - especially having lived with a heroin addict. The season preview didn't do much for me either.

The shot with all of the body bags underwater in episode 1 was awesome though. I'll keep my hopes up for now.
post #121 of 878
The whole "dark passenger" thing seemed a little lame but I'll be damned if the way Hall delivered that speech at the end didn't sell it for me. I thought the Doakes situation would go on a little longer. Maybe they wanted to kill it since Deb just broke Dexter's pattern.
post #122 of 878
Just finished season one. Great, great show. One of my new favorites. Can't wait to see what they do with season two. The book has been interesting, thus far, as well.

It took a few minutes to adjust to Hall as anything but his six feet under character, but he really does a superb job in this. How was he not nominated for best actor?
post #123 of 878
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Originally Posted by gravedigger
The whole "dark passenger" thing seemed a little lame but I'll be damned if the way Hall delivered that speech at the end didn't sell it for me. I thought the Doakes situation would go on a little longer. Maybe they wanted to kill it since Deb just broke Dexter's pattern.
The dark passenger bit is from the book, but yeah, Hall sold it.

I liked the "oh shit" look from Rita when she saw Dexter's sponsor. Made me laugh.
post #124 of 878
What is it about loopy female addicts with raven hair that is such a turn-on? The Fight Club vibe of this episode was a bit odd but honest to god the british chick is sexy as all hell.
post #125 of 878
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Originally Posted by Jack "Sue" Dnim
I liked the "oh shit" look from Rita when she saw Dexter's sponsor. Made me laugh.
Not to mention when Doakes walked in on the NA meeting. Great look on his face. "You owe me a new Michelin, motherfucker!"
post #126 of 878
Great episode! Loved the used car salesmen, loved the dark passenger speech, loved the new female sponsor.

Also is Dexter's killing style becoming different? It's been twice now that Dexter has just imply stabbed the person instead of cutting on them for a while. It's been very interesting seeing Dexter grow and change and I guess his killing style is part of this.
post #127 of 878
I really didn't like the prospect of the addiction plot but it turned out a lot better than expected. I have a feeling, and I hope I'm wrong, although the show has managed to pull through most of the worst stuff I imagine it intends to do, Dexter's sponsor isn't who she seems to be.
post #128 of 878
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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt
Also is Dexter's killing style becoming different? It's been twice now that Dexter has just imply stabbed the person instead of cutting on them for a while. It's been very interesting seeing Dexter grow and change and I guess his killing style is part of this.
I think the first kill was more of a "ripping off the band-aid" situation, where Dexter wanted to get over his nerves. Lowball got offed quickly because Dexter had an emotional reaction to the guy dissing Rita and the kids. I take it to mean that as he becomes more human, Dexter is losing his killing edge.
post #129 of 878
Dexter is now killing people the way his brother wanted him to. His brother wanted him to kill Deb in one quick stroke, so he seems to be emulating that method with his latest victims.

I don't agree with Whiskaz poor acting accusation for anyone on this show except Deb. She's the one major acting flaw in an otherwise excellent cast.
post #130 of 878
Last episode was great. Glad the Doakes situation is taken care of. His line about "owing me a new Michelin" was great. Wonder if the new girl is also a killer. Since this show isn't as predictible as let's say, Heroes, I'm guessing not. But would add a bit of suspense to it. Rita is starting to annoy the shit out of me at the moment. Really liking the dynamic between his sister and Buffalo Bill.
post #131 of 878
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Originally Posted by Rob Hughes
Rita is starting to annoy the shit out of me at the moment.
She is just starting to annoy you now? I've been annoyed with her since the beginning.
post #132 of 878
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Originally Posted by Death Surge
I don't agree with Whiskaz poor acting accusation for anyone on this show except Deb. She's the one major acting flaw in an otherwise excellent cast.
You're right. Deb is the only actor I really have a major problem with. The rest aren't bad, Hall just happens to be a lot better.
post #133 of 878
I'll cast my vote in the "Hall outshines pretty much all the other cast members" column, myself. With a better cast and some tighter scripts, this show could rival anything on HBO. As it stands, it's just a fun diversion. For me, anyways.
post #134 of 878
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Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
I'll cast my vote in the "Hall outshines pretty much all the other cast members" column, myself. With a better cast and some tighter scripts, this show could rival anything on HBO. As it stands, it's just a fun diversion. For me, anyways.
Now my favorite of the currently airing shows (though the Wire is monopolizing my DVD viewing at the moment). The Doakes situation was handled perfectly; his tailing Dexter was starting to get a tad ridiculous.

Don't mind the acting at all, not even Deb's sister. Hall's brilliant. I loved his little "I'm sorry" in response to Harry Tang's line about the Bay Butcher ruining his internet social life.

I'm getting a real sense that either the lead FBI agent or the sponsor are going to be the "big bad" of this season.
post #135 of 878
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Originally Posted by Overlord
Now my favorite of the currently airing shows (though the Wire is monopolizing my DVD viewing at the moment). The Doakes situation was handled perfectly; his tailing Dexter was starting to get a tad ridiculous.

Don't mind the acting at all, not even Deb's sister. Hall's brilliant. I loved his little "I'm sorry" in response to Harry Tang's line about the Bay Butcher ruining his internet social life.

I'm getting a real sense that either the lead FBI agent or the sponsor are going to be the "big bad" of this season.

My vote is the FBI guy. I think the other woman is just going to be the other woman. Dexter at some point is going to have to chose who he want Rita or the other woman. It in line with him feeling more human story line. I am going to bet that the FBI guy is just a older dexter.
post #136 of 878
I think the girl is just going to be an alternative to Rita and her character having a lot more in common with the real Dexter, rather than just mask Dexter.
post #137 of 878
I'm still loving the hell out of this show. The way he got Dokes off his back was a great moment because as smart as he is, he clearly didn't think it would do the trick because he can mimic human emotion but he can't understand it.
post #138 of 878
Ok, Laguerta is the biggest bitch ever after the shit she pulled last night.
post #139 of 878
Count me as one of the folks that thinks Jennifer Carpenter (Deb) does a great job on this show. She is a strange actor, I will admit. But her scenes with Hall at the end of the first season were some of the show's best stuff. Hall owns the show, for sure. But the other actors hang in there really well. Don't have any idea who the big bad is going to be, but maybe it's someone we haven't met yet. They are kind of setting up the sponser, but she's probably a red herring. Be weird if it was Carradine, since Deb is already has a connection with him. And it would just be weird. But the show seems to be able to get away with anything.
post #140 of 878
She was much better last night but I still don't think she's that good. I think everyone raised their game last night, actually.

I'm starting to wonder if they're going to bother narrowing down the enemies at all. Every time one threat seems to fade, another pops up right away. Dexter is getting it from all sides this year.
post #141 of 878
The FBI Agent is the big bad in that he's, unknowingly, out the get Dexter. His prescence is a direct threat to Dexter's life. The investigation is either going to lead to Dexter or someone else. How Dexter deals with that will be a tension which drives this season.

It just now occurs to me that maybe his sponsor might be a good patsy to frame the murders on. I'd be symetrical to have Dexter, as Deb already has been, involved with a serial killer.
post #142 of 878
Last night's flashbacks, with Harry coaching Dex in the Costanza Method to pass the psych evaluation, where my favorite so far. Sure, it didn't give any huge insights, but it was twisted and funny as hell.
post #143 of 878
Well it does give some insight. We all knew that Harry made Dexter into a killer that only kills other serial killers. However this time Dexter could have actually recived help but Harry still didn't allow him to recieve any and actually called him a monster.
post #144 of 878
The whole business with his brother sort of demystified Harry in Dexter's eyes. I'd expect some less than flattering flashbacks this year.
post #145 of 878
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Originally Posted by Waaaaalt
However this time Dexter could have actually recived help but Harry still didn't allow him to recieve any
Harry was protecting him from the far more likely result of honesty in that interview: Dexter locked up forever in a rubber room.
post #146 of 878
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Harry was protecting him from the far more likely result of honesty in that interview: Dexter locked up forever in a rubber room.
I don't know if they do that......
post #147 of 878
Sociopath's can't be cured. What treatment were they going to give him? He doesn't have a chemical imbalance, so no pills. Is he going to talk about his feelings and watch his homicidal urges evaporate as the sessions go by? Dahmer still had dreams of killing people even after getting caught and sitting down with a psychiatrist in prison. It doesn't go away. There's nothing to do.

You can't just commit someone because they show the warning signs of sociopathy, they have to actually do something before you can imprison them against their will.

It may not be good for society to leave Dexter undiagnosed, but as far as being in Dexter's own self interest, and allowing him to live a life without restrictions, it is a good thing. On a purely selfish standpoint Harry did a good thing for Dexter, if he didn't give him an outlet and the skills he needed to conceal his dark (passenger!) side then Dexter would have done something at somepoint to land himself in prison. Like that time he going to shank the bully on the basketball court. Although it isn't outright that he'd have been caught, but he could have been a suspect, and those in authority might have took note of him which would have maybe impacted his ability to get hired on as blood spatter expert for the police department.

edit: Though Dexter isn't real, so he isn't really representative of a particular pyschological disorder. He has a lot of self control, doesn't display erratic behavior, and isn't really all that manipulative except to a certain degree with his potential victims.

Something to wonder about is how much of Dexter is what he would be and how much of it is what Harry turned him into.
post #148 of 878
I'm wondering if his box of glass slides of blood from the victims is going to come into play. I would think the Code of Harry would be kicking in right now to get rid of it as that box is the one thing that could easily put Dexter away. Having Deb in his place, and the heat being mentioned in the most recent episode, it like he's courting disaster keeping it around.
post #149 of 878
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Originally Posted by slagar
I'm wondering if his box of glass slides of blood from the victims is going to come into play. I would think the Code of Harry would be kicking in right now to get rid of it as that box is the one thing that could easily put Dexter away. Having Deb in his place, and the heat being mentioned in the most recent episode, it like he's courting disaster keeping it around.
He's going to have to use the box to set up a patsy, as the FBI isn't going to walk away from this case until somebody is caught. My guess is the sponsor, but maybe someone we haven't met yet. There is something really, really creepy about Lundy. Maybe it just runs in the Carradine family, or maybe it's a red herring.

This was another great episode, though Doakes's repeated run-ins with ex military commandos is starting to get a bit strange. Also, Miami PD really needs to get some security cameras, if not security guards, for their facilities at night.
post #150 of 878
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So much going on tonight. Liked it a lot. It's good to see Dex become unhinged every now and again.
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