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post #1 of 24
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Hearing his latest solo tune 'Goodbye' just reiterates my feelings. I've always enjoyed his contributions during Pearl Jam's live shows, but when you get right down to it, he'll always be the band's bread-and-butter. He's one of my fave modern lyricists and usually Pearl Jam's strongest material originates from his creative center. I love Pearl Jam, and want them to stay together as long as they're recording albums of quality akin to their latest album (plus, they're an amazing live act), but a man of Vedder's talents should shed his skin on a more independent-centric forum--a solo album. Chris Cornell managed to do it quite successfully, and I don't see any reason why Vedder couldn't do it.

'Goodbye':

http://music.aol.com/franchise/first...00050000000031

The Pearl Jam frontman channels his inner surf bum on 'Goodbye,' a laidback, ukelele ditty that he recorded for the surfing documentary 'A Brokedown Melody.' Jack Johnson, who is featured in the film, will release the entire soundtrack on his own Brushfire Records on Nov. 14, but you can hear Vedder's contribution exclusively on AOL Music for the next 24 hours.
post #2 of 24
Vedder has been one of my favorite artists since Binaural came out when i was in 6th grade. ive seen them livee 2 or 3 times, and every time its been fantastic. the more music from him, both with pearl jam and solo, the better.
post #3 of 24
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I envy you. When I was in the 6th grade, I was still listening to my mom's Top 40 Radio (here's looking at you, Phil Collins and Rod Stewart!).
post #4 of 24
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An album's worth of Eddie Vedder solo material is coming our way (September 18th) via the soundtrack to Sean Penn's new flick, INTO THE WILD:

http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2007...res-penns.html

To say that I'm excited would be putting it lightly. One of the greatest songwriters and vocalists in rock getting the chance to unleash the closest thing to a solo album? It's about damn time.

As an addendum to my post from last year: Chris Cornell's second solo album sucks major balls. I know Vedder couldn't possibly release material that weak and shallow even if he tried.
post #5 of 24
I love Pearl Jam to death, but a lot of what I've dug most from them for a while now centers around Eddie's singing. Like the band's covers of "Masters of War" (amazing), "Gimme Some Truth" and "Love Reign O'er Me". In any case, Pearl Jam remains a great band from top to bottom. But I can't wait to hear the Into the Wild soundtrack. Thanks for the info, Ray.

I hate that Cornell's Carry On didn't turn out well. Some of it is alright, but it's still a big letdown for such a powerful singer. Euphoria Morning was good stuff, though. There have been a few dissapointments this year, in my opinion. Cornell, Smashing Pumpkins (not hugely surprising here, though), Queens of the Stone Age (new one is ok, but I wanted a lot more). Hopefully Radiohead's new one will pull us out of the recent major rock act slump. At least the latest from Wilco and The White Stripes turned out great.
post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by Ray Abed
An album's worth of Eddie Vedder solo material is coming our way (September 18th) via the soundtrack to Sean Penn's new flick, INTO THE WILD:

http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2007...res-penns.html

To say that I'm excited would be putting it lightly. One of the greatest songwriters and vocalists in rock getting the chance to unleash the closest thing to a solo album? It's about damn time.

As an addendum to my post from last year: Chris Cornell's second solo album sucks major balls. I know Vedder couldn't possibly release material that weak and shallow even if he tried.
^--this guy is giddy. Downright fucking giddy. Vedder is awesome.
post #7 of 24
As a big fan of Eddie, and a huge fan of Split Enz I was really over the moon when he got together with Tim and Neil Finn to do a bunch of Split Enz covers.

I posted these in the Crowded House thread but for anyone who missed them and is interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUJeuhreabA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iYxmHJwXos
post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by Ray Abed
An album's worth of Eddie Vedder solo material is coming our way (September 18th) via the soundtrack to Sean Penn's new flick, INTO THE WILD:
This is coming out on my birthday? Wonderful.
post #9 of 24
There's a reason why Pearl Jam's "Storytellers" stays on my DVR. Great band and Vedder is so awesome. I loved his response when asked what did he think of fans who had different political leanings than his own.

Vedder: "Yeah...Fuck 'em"
And the thing is he meant it in the nicest way. Like thanks for liking my shit but I totally disagree with you. I can dig a guy sticking to his principles in a situation where kissing ass would have maybe sold an album or two.

Thanks for the vids Horrid.
post #10 of 24
It's got potential, but there's a lot to be said for good collaborators, even if it's just a matter of having a bigger pool of songs to pick from. Some used to say that Thom Yorke is Radiohead, but his good-but-not-great solo album proved otherwise pretty definitively. It's tempting to ascribe a greater share of a band's talent to its frontman, but especially with Pearl Jam, for whom the songwriting credits vary widely on most albums (heck, I think Matt Cameron wrote the best song on the last one, and a lot of the greats only feature Vedder as lyricist), it's not particularly valid.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that this will be just fine, but not as good as a band album.
post #11 of 24
Overall I prefer Eddie's work with the band, but it is nice to hear him stand alone sometimes. Aside from Pearl Jam's full band-driven songs, there are also the terrific Vedder-centric quieter tracks and spiritual excursions (both in and out of PJ). The great part is that we don't have to choose band versus solo when we already get both.
post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by B_MetalSucks
There's a reason why Pearl Jam's "Storytellers" stays on my DVR.
More than a year later, it's still on my DVR, too. I can't get myself to erase it, considering it's one of the greatest Tv performances I've ever witnessed.

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Originally Posted by DaveB
It's got potential, but there's a lot to be said for good collaborators, even if it's just a matter of having a bigger pool of songs to pick from. Some used to say that Thom Yorke is Radiohead, but his good-but-not-great solo album proved otherwise pretty definitively. It's tempting to ascribe a greater share of a band's talent to its frontman, but especially with Pearl Jam, for whom the songwriting credits vary widely on most albums (heck, I think Matt Cameron wrote the best song on the last one, and a lot of the greats only feature Vedder as lyricist), it's not particularly valid.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that this will be just fine, but not as good as a band album.
A few points, Dave:

1) I'd never say that Pearl Jam = Eddie Vedder. If that were the case, the band's catalogue wouldn't be as impressive as it is. However, if it weren't for the last two Pearl Jam discs, I'd have no qualms in saying that the band's strongest material usually materializes from Vedder. Even when he's not solely responsible for the songwriting duties, his harmonious vocal inflections and/or unmistakable baritone pushes the tunes to an entirely different level. And as a lyricist, he's unmatched not just by his fellow bandmates, but by few of his rock n' roll peers. His knack for an amazing pop melody is highly underrated. He knows how to tell a good story using the minimalist of tools--hell, his vocals and uke are enough at times. So I'm not expecting solo Vedder to match any Pearl Jam album, necessarily, and I don't think that's his intention. But I'm expecting it to be good in a different kind of way.

2) Still love Thom Yorke's THE ERASER, which holds up to the majority of Radiohead's catalogue. Few Radiohead fans probably feel the same way, but with that said, I still wouldn't imply that Yorke = Radiohead.
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by Ray Abed
And as a lyricist, he's unmatched not just by his fellow bandmates, but by few of his rock n' roll peers. His knack for an amazing pop melody is highly underrated.
Lyrically, he's pretty good, and I'll admit that even when the words fail a little, he sells them very well. He's absolutely the best lyricist in the band, though this isn't all that impressive a feat when you're competing with the likes of Jeff Ament. As for his knack for pop melody, it seems to come and go. For a few albums, PJ seemed to want to underplay the vocals, so they were mixed a little quietly, and Vedder didn't use his range as much. I think this was a pretty successful experiment, since it forced fans to focus a little more on the compositions. However, of late, he's singing more again, which is welcome.

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He knows how to tell a good story using the minimalist of tools--hell, his vocals and uke are enough at times.
I guess I don't see that as particularly impressive. It's practically a pre-requisite for most songwriters to be able to accompany themselves. Plus, he copped the vocals/uke combo in a rock context from Townshend. "Soon Forget" is nice, but it's sort of a "Blue, Red, and Grey" rewrite. Vedder can tell a mean story when he wants to, but he's not all that consistent in the lyric department, even on some songs that manage to be pretty great, regardless (see "World Wide Suicide").
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by DaveB
Lyrically, he's pretty good, and I'll admit that even when the words fail a little, he sells them very well. He's absolutely the best lyricist in the band, though this isn't all that impressive a feat when you're competing with the likes of Jeff Ament.
Glad you mentioned Jeff Ament. I generally find Ament's lyrics to be so obtuse and plain that they're almost incapable of rescue reading them on plain paper. It speaks volumes (for me, at least) that a vocalist like Vedder can turn what could be near-disasters into something halfway decent ('Nothing As It Seems') or even magnetically original ('Help Help').


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Originally Posted by DaveB
As for his knack for pop melody, it seems to come and go. For a few albums, PJ seemed to want to underplay the vocals, so they were mixed a little quietly, and Vedder didn't use his range as much. I think this was a pretty successful experiment, since it forced fans to focus a little more on the compositions.
I don't know how many times I've heard fans insist that Vedder's delivery on RIOT ACT is tired and lifeless. That couldn't be further from the truth if you're viewing his delivery as a deliberate attempt to allow the music to flourish on its own terms. Which is why I find an album like RIOT ACT to be so criminally underrated it makes me sick--it's richly conveyed and a melodic powerhouse. The band never used the studio to their benefit as much as they did with RIOT ACT. And Vedder's voice is beautifully understated, building color and detail with the music like a skilled painter adding brushstrokes to a painting.
post #15 of 24
i hope this "solo" record really is a solo record, and not just eddie with a big backing band. his solo stuff, especially before shows, sometimes gives off a folky dylan vibe to me, in that it really is about just him and the guitar. if thats the case i'll be very pleased.
post #16 of 24
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The tracklist to Vedder's "solo album" (I don't know if this is final or official...haven't read it anywhere else):

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Motion-P...6446703&sr=1-2

Album cover:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ima...6446703&sr=1-2

For the second half of the year, this and the next Radiohead album have me really, really anxious. 11 tracks was more than I was expecting. It really is an album's worth of new tunes.
post #17 of 24
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The tracklist/album cover I posted is official. Here's another bit of info.:

http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2007...cover-art.html

The first single, "Hard Sun"' a song originally written by Seattle musician Gordon Peterson (aka Indio), is a duet Vedder did with Corin Tucker of Sleater-Kinney.
post #18 of 24
So, this came out yesterday. Did anyone pick it up?
post #19 of 24
I picked it up but haven't given it a listen. I'll wait till I can sit and take it in in one uninterrupted swallow (it's short, barely half an hour). Best case scenario is that it is pretty good, and he maybe does a few solo acoustic theater shows. I am not expecting to be blown away, though.
post #20 of 24
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This one's a grower. My Ten Club version arrived in the mail on Monday (with a cool-as-shit Ed Ved T-Shirt), and I've been through it twice so far.

One thing's for sure: if you're a fan of Eddie's voice, parts of this disc will be bone-chilling. Some of the tunes end right when they're about to take you to the clouds, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Once I see the actual film, it wouldn't surprise me if these tunes take on a whole new life.
post #21 of 24
It's not bad, but it's short as hell. 33 minutes.
post #22 of 24
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Originally Posted by Alan "Nordling" Cerny
It's not bad, but it's short as hell. 33 minutes.
I think that's kind of a virtue, actually. They're pretty good songs, but the style is much more consistent and low-key than you'd get on a Pearl Jam album. I think he'd have ended up repeating himself a lot more if he'd tried to push for 45 minutes. It would end up sounding less like "Vedder does a nice job establishing a consistent tone for the movie" and more like "Vedder isn't capable of a lot of range as a songwriter."

As it stands, it's understated, but effective. I don't think Yorke's The Eraser is a bad comparison point, actually, in terms of putting it up against PJ's output. Both albums illustrate and isolate exactly what the frontman might be bringing to the table in the group environment. Obviously, neither album is the be-all, end-all of what Yorke or Vedder is capable, but they both make the case for the difference between the artist in a collaborative vs. solo context.
post #23 of 24
The older I get, the more quantity starts to register with me. It's just that I want more for the scratch I spend. Having said that, I'm glad I bought this, because it's good.
post #24 of 24
Picked it up today, giving it a spin right now. Liking what I'm hearing so far.
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