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post #101 of 3835
And all of this is on top of the fact that Sony is a huge corporation who is betting all of their chips on this console whose outlook is cloudy at best.
post #102 of 3835
Blah, after reading that hellish NeoGAF thread (I love the way message boards get when someone with real insider knowledge shows up ... it's like chum in shark infested water) it sounds like the PS3 might actually have a serious issue.

I don't think it would affect me (I don't even have an HDTV at the moment) and I have no plans of buying a TV that can't handle upscaling from 720p to 1080p but it's got to be enormously frustrating that the PS3 doesn't do that for people who have 1080i only televisions.

I'd like to see some official, non-read between the lines type owning up as to whether or not this is a hardware issue (or something that could actually be resolved in software or by having games render to 540p) before I'd say that it's not solvable.

Still, the fact that the Xbox 360 can do this and the PS3 cannot makes the PS3 look like a scrub. All I know is that I'd like an all digital video connection from my game console to my television. If I've got a 1080p television, I'd hope that most of the games would support outputting to 1080i or 1080p and then you'd get exact digital pixel to pixel mapping with no digital to analog conversion or scaling.
post #103 of 3835
I went to Fry's at lunch to swap out a GHII guitar that didn't work, and noticed about 15-20 guys setting up camp outside the store, presumably for PS3's.
post #104 of 3835
4 tents set up outside of the Target next to my place of employment...they've been there since 5am. best buy by my neighborhood mall has had people lined up since yesterday.


so fucking ridiculous.
post #105 of 3835
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Originally Posted by CryOpenupthesky
4 tents set up outside of the Target next to my place of employment...they've been there since 5am. best buy by my neighborhood mall has had people lined up since yesterday.


so fucking ridiculous.
True, it's not something everyone would do, but hey, if it's all in good fun, what the hell.

If the PS3 was HD-DVD instead of Blu-ray, came bundled with Resistance, and I had friend to refill my thermos of coffee every hour or so, I'd be there with them.
post #106 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon
If the PS3 was HD-DVD instead of Blu-ray
Huh .. why?
post #107 of 3835
I stopped by Target over lunch to mock the crowd of camping dorks and check for Wii accessories. They had a PS3 kiosk that they had just set up yesterday...and it had already crashed. Motorstorm was locked up and the clerks said nobody had been able to fix it yet.

The only thing worse than paying $3,000 for a half-assed system on Ebay is having the same system breakdown on its very first day. Ha.
post #108 of 3835
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I stopped by Target over lunch to mock the crowd of camping dorks and check for Wii accessories. They had a PS3 kiosk that they had just set up yesterday...and it had already crashed. Motorstorm was locked up and the clerks said nobody had been able to fix it yet.

The only thing worse than paying $3,000 for a half-assed system on Ebay is having the same system breakdown on its very first day. Ha.
Hey, I can understand you not being willing to wait for one yourself but honestly, what kind of jackass needs to go over there and actually make fun of these people?

According to what you've said, don't you think they'll feel bad enough when they get home and aren't happy because either A) they didn't get the system or B) it crashes all the time? Instead you have to go out of your way and try and try to piss all over whatever it is they're doing. That seems even worse than them waiting in line.
post #109 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Slater
I stopped by Target over lunch to mock the crowd of camping dorks and check for Wii accessories. They had a PS3 kiosk that they had just set up yesterday...and it had already crashed. Motorstorm was locked up and the clerks said nobody had been able to fix it yet.

The only thing worse than paying $3,000 for a half-assed system on Ebay is having the same system breakdown on its very first day. Ha.
Perhaps the kiosk had poor ventilation?

Did the clerks try to reset it, and that didn't work? Or have they just let it sit there?
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post #112 of 3835
Do you really believe they're selling for that, though? The 360 had a lot of people making false bids to drive up the price. Those huge prices lasted for about 10 minutes.
post #113 of 3835
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Originally Posted by dontEATnachos
Hey, I can understand you not being willing to wait for one yourself but honestly, what kind of jackass needs to go over there and actually make fun of these people?
Because they are either the idlest of the rich, not working and having over $600 to spend on video games, or the greediest of the greedy.
post #114 of 3835
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Because they are either the idlest of the rich, not working and having over $600 to spend on video games, or the greediest of the greedy.
So someone who has $600 and a 2 days of spare time should be labeled as the "idlest of the rich"? If anything, the people who are sitting out there waiting for their console are not idle ... they're working to get what they want by actually being there. The idlest of the rich would be paying for convenience and buy it off eBay or craigslist or something.

As for those people who are going to try to sell them on eBay, either they're going to make a bunch of money because there is a lot of demand for the console or they'll end up not making any because there isn't as much demand as expected so people who do want to get one will be able to get it for something quite close to the actual retail price.

I don't know, I just have a hard time being pissed about this or feeling the need to hate those people in line.
post #115 of 3835
From the videos they don't look like the wealthiest people in America, not that it matter.

The anti-Sony fervor is kind of interesting, but it does get old, since it's expanding not only to the company but to the people who for one reason or another want to buy the console at launch. I saw lots of people lining up for the 360 and didn't feel the need to drive somewhere to mock them , that's just a strange mentality.
post #116 of 3835
If you are buying an extra SIXAXIS controller, be advised: you'll need to purchase a USB cable separately in order to recharge more than one at a time.

http://www.ps3land.com/article-989.php

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In a surprising move, Sony has opted not to include a USB cable with their retail SIXAXIS controllers. A USB cable is required to charge the controller's integrated battery, otherwise, the controller is rendered useless.

The retail PlayStation 3 contains a USB cable in the package, so at least consumers will have one included cable to charge controllers. However, if consumers wish to charge multiple controllers, after market cables appear to be the only solution.
post #117 of 3835
I didn't say anything to the nerds, although hopefully my smirk got the point across.

The best part was that there was a homeless dude begging for change right next to the PS3 line, and except for his sign, he was totally indistinguishable from the sweaty, scruffy-looking nerds. But then I figured, if you just need a couple dollars for a fucking Big Mac meal, how awful would it be to see all these fat kids with a thousand bucks worth of disposable income and nothing better to do? So I felt bad and gave him a couple bucks. And he probably laughed at me after I left and got back in the PS3 line.

There was also a Mexican guy in his sixties wearing very dirty clothes waiting in the line. He didn't look like the PS3's target demographic, so I'm assuming someone read about all the Japanese businessmen paying poor people to stand in line for them and thought, hey, there's an idea.
post #118 of 3835
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Originally Posted by dontEATnachos
So someone who has $600 and a 2 days of spare time should be labeled as the "idlest of the rich"?
Pretty much.

If I had a couple of days off work, the last thing I'd ever do is stand in line somewhere.
post #119 of 3835
Also, mocking the campers has nothing to do with being pro- or anti-Sony. I think anyone who'll sit on a grimy sidewalk for 48 consecutive hours just to be the first person to buy a video game system (or a Tickle Me Elmo, or a ticket to Star Wars, or pretty much anything else) deserves all the cruel laughter we can muster.

Get a fucking life already.
post #120 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Slater
I think anyone who'll sit on a grimy sidewalk for 48 consecutive hours just to be the first person to buy a video game system (or a Tickle Me Elmo, or a ticket to Star Wars, or pretty much anything else) deserves all the cruel laughter we can muster.
If only I found cruel laughter sufficient to express my contempt . . . where's my BB gun?
post #121 of 3835
I've yet to read of a single person who's actually keeping this console. Not a single one.

In addition, I've yet to see actual gamers lined up for this thing. More frat boys and enterprising individuals of a dubious nature, a few homeless. No gamers.

More and more, this is reminding me of that scene in Spirited Away where No-Face is handing out gold to the bathhouse workers, and they make complete filthy jig-dancing assholes of themselves as a result.

My pity is nonexistent.
post #122 of 3835
Well they're lined up about 20 deep at my local futureshop. No midnight release and its a nice damp, cold Vancouver night.I forgot to ask the line who was scalping though. Most didn't look like stereotypical gamers, but I don't really fit that mold either.
post #123 of 3835
update on the tents in front of my local target...THEY"RE HIGHSCHOOL KIDS! they've been there since 5am. I hope they all flunk out.
post #124 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Slater
I stopped by Target over lunch to mock the crowd of camping dorks and check for Wii accessories. They had a PS3 kiosk that they had just set up yesterday...and it had already crashed....
My Best Buy store's demo crashed today as well inside it's plexiglass, Sony-supplied housing. I don't know who got it up and running again, but I was told it was out of order for a good 10-12 hours. This was a midnight-release location and there were news crews EVERYWHERE with one station a bit upset that it couldn't get footage of the kiosk.
post #125 of 3835
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Originally Posted by mastronikolas
Because they are either the idlest of the rich, not working and having over $600 to spend on video games, or the greediest of the greedy.
Nope, there's another category:

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Originally Posted by Slater
....There was also a Mexican guy in his sixties wearing very dirty clothes waiting in the line. He didn't look like the PS3's target demographic, so I'm assuming someone read about all the Japanese businessmen paying poor people to stand in line for them and thought, hey, there's an idea.
When I talked with some of the guys outside this store the other day, many admitted that they were being paid to camp out. How much is four nights outside a retail store worth to you (never mind that it's not too chilly right now in semi-southern FL, as there was a decent thunderstorm last night to make up for it)?
post #126 of 3835
I went to Best Buy today, and saw tents and people lining up to buy PS3. They don't really look like gamers to me, but then again maybe they are buying it for the blu-ray player.
post #127 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Slater
....In related news, Holy Shit. I'm one of those backwater bastards whose high-def TV jumps right from 420p to 1080i, and I can't even tell you how pissed I'd be right now if I had just found out that I'd paid two hundred extra dollars for a Blu-Ray drive that's only pumping out the same resolution as my $45 standard DVD player. That's just fucking madness right there. Seriously, what's wrong with Sony? How can they possibly be screwing up every single thing like this?
Between this and other stories I've seen on these boards and in other outlets, I am convinced that the bulk of consumers, and I'm talking about current adopters here, are going to get burned BIG-TIME with this whole HD thing. Sony's HD mini-DVD camcorder, for instance? The format they are selling as a simple home-solution for playback in nearly any DVD player? Yeah, only in Standard Def, pal. You need a Blu-Ray player to play back a 1.4GB (double for dual-layered) mini-DVD recorded in HD or it might EAT YOUR DATA!!!* This is because of the new compression standard (which no other software currently utilizes other than what's provided in the box; this will likely change soon enough, though). At least it comes with A/V AND component cables so you can hook the unit to the tv (or with HDMI purchased in addition), though this defeats the general concept of the only real benefit the format offers. Does the PS3 read mini-DVDs?

*From the sonystyle website:
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Important notice regarding discs recorded in the AVCHD format
This camcorder captures high definition footage in the AVCHD format. Using the enclosed PC software, high definition footage can be copied onto DVD media. However, DVD media containing AVCHD footage should not be used with DVD based players or recorders, as the DVD player/recorder may fail to eject the media and may erase its contents without warning. DVD media containing AVCHD footage may be played on a compatible Blu-ray Discâ„¢ player/recorder or other compatible device.
And, because I'm a typo-whore (I did this to Nintendo, too) and find it ironic considering the noted possibility of incalculable data purging:
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The HDR-UX1 is compatible with a variety of DVD formats allowing the ease of use and simplicity found in DVD Media. As long as you meet the minimum recording requirement, there is no need to finalize DVD+RW media before you play it back in most consume electronic devices (excluding PCs).
post #128 of 3835
Just curious, what's the weather been like in everybody's area? Last night and tonight the low will be around 26 and I think the highs today were maybe 38. That's pretty damn cold to be camping out on a sidewalk . . . bastards are lucky it's not snowing. While the Best Buy and Target I stopped by today don't open until 8am tomorrow, the Wal Mart will be selling their PS3's at 12:01 am and the campers got to line up inside at the layaway area. Is it that way at every 24 hour Wal Mart?
post #129 of 3835
We had a major storm and a lot of roads were closed due to flooding and there was a tornado warning. I really wanted to drive past Circuit City and and laugh at them.
post #130 of 3835
80 degrees and sunny here. Which doesn't excuse camping on a sidewalk. At all.
post #131 of 3835
Rainy, wet, and freezing cold here and there were still people who have been camping outside the Sam's I work at for two days just to get the system. I felt bad for them though because I just know some rich business man is going to come in during the 3 hours that it's open only to business members and buy the only two systems we have.
post #132 of 3835
Either those people really want their hands on a spankin' new PS3 so they play it nonstop until New Year's Day, or they thought that they can put them up on Ebay and make enough money to let them retire early.
post #133 of 3835
So it's cold, and there are some 'tards waiting in line and nobody is drive-by super-soaking them? What is this world coming to?
post #134 of 3835
guy on another board I post on just sold his pre-ordered Ps3 for 3,052 dollars.
post #135 of 3835
I think it's funny that someone considers sitting on their fucking ass in the cold working. That's not working. Get a goddamned job.
post #136 of 3835
Well, it is considered working.... IF YOU'RE HOMELESS.
post #137 of 3835
So, no one here actually got one and is playing it?

*crickets chirping*

I went to Wally-World, checkbook in hand just in case. They had the waiting line in the garden center. About 12am they lead some people back to the lay-away section to get their PS3s. These guys seemed to be royal dicks, so I didn't bother to ask how the system went to decide who got one and who didn't. The odd, thing was, I only saw three PS3s, not 10 like they said they would have. Hmmm. *cough* ebay *cough*. The whole ordeal was sneeky, and frankly quite creepy. They even had a policeman walk the lucky buyers to their cars.
post #138 of 3835
Guess we'll have to wait to see if the stats on this launch are as dismal as Japan's. They didn't even sell one game for each system sold. Friggin' ebayer scalpers.

I don't think we're going to to hear from anyone on this board ('sides Russ, of course) that managed to get one. They're all popping up online and going for 100 million dollars.
post #139 of 3835
Personally, I hope the lot of them take their package home to find out the electricity's off because their stupid asses didn't pay the light bill.

There's no way in hell I'll buy a PS3.
post #140 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
Guess we'll have to wait to see if the stats on this launch are as dismal as Japan's. They didn't even sell one game for each system sold. Friggin' ebayer scalpers.

I don't think we're going to to hear from anyone on this board ('sides Russ, of course) that managed to get one. They're all popping up online and going for 100 million dollars.
Hahaha, that's awesome.
post #141 of 3835
I'd love for this system to crash and burn so the Ebay sellers and those sleazy street peddlers will be out of the only 500 dollars they had in their bank accounts. Because, let's be honest, these douchebags surely don't have full-time jobs (unless it's at a Mcdonalds or Pizza Hut).

To think that some asshole dirt merchant stood in line last night in front of some poor kid or x-mas shopping parent with the sole purpose to make a few bucks makes me want to vomit.

America at its fucking worst.

Okay, I'm done venting, I needed that.
post #142 of 3835
Not only that, but there's been lots of reports of people paying homeless people to wait for them. There was some video online (can't find it now) of some rich dude who paid 50 homeless people 100 bucks a day to wait in line and get one.

Pretty fucking disgusting.
post #143 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
Guess we'll have to wait to see if the stats on this launch are as dismal as Japan's. They didn't even sell one game for each system sold. Friggin' ebayer scalpers.

I don't think we're going to to hear from anyone on this board ('sides Russ, of course) that managed to get one. They're all popping up online and going for 100 million dollars.
Some poor game developers spent years creating PS3 games so the systems could be passed around on ebay like some kind of sick game of musical chairs.

That auction IS a joke right?
post #144 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
Not only that, but there's been lots of reports of people paying homeless people to wait for them. There was some video online (can't find it now) of some rich dude who paid 50 homeless people 100 bucks a day to wait in line and get one.

Pretty fucking disgusting.
Makes me ill. I'm picking a Wii up for my nephew tomorrow morning, and the thought makes me truly ill that I'll have to deal with these . . . . people.
post #145 of 3835
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Originally Posted by damimegood
To think that some asshole dirt merchant stood in line last night in front of some poor kid or x-mas shopping parent with the sole purpose to make a few bucks makes me want to vomit.

America at its fucking worst.
Not quite...
post #146 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll
Yes, that too.
post #147 of 3835
I asked this question somewhere else and got smartass replies so I'll ask here as well.

How does the PS3 play with a conventional (non-HDTV) TV. I know the PS3 will obviously look better on the HD. But, are the game playable? Is it ok for graphics but subtitles are hard to see? Or does it just look horrible on a conventional TV on all counts.
post #148 of 3835
Even ex Sen. John Edwards is getting other people stand in line and buy a PS3 for his family.
post #149 of 3835
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Originally Posted by Alex Riviello
Guess we'll have to wait to see if the stats on this launch are as dismal as Japan's. They didn't even sell one game for each system sold. Friggin' ebayer scalpers.
Is that true? If so, then that's disgusting. Truly pathetic.
post #150 of 3835
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