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Nigger, please!

post #1 of 20
11/28/06 at 4:19pm
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I don't understand why otherwise intelligent people, and respected publications insist on using the phrase "n-word". If a celebrity says "you're full of shit" to someone, newspapers don't quote it as "you're full of [s-word]". If you're going to quote it, quote it.

I know it's a powerful word with lots of meaning, innuendo, and emotion attached. But I find it insulting to my intelligence to read that Kramer called someone an n-word, and now Michael Jackson and Jessee Jackson are going to ask entertainers to stop using the word n-word. It's ridiculous.

If you read the phrase n-word, does your inner voice say nigger? Does that make you a racist?
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post #2 of 20
11/28/06 at 4:41pm
Actually, you are wrong. Newspapers don't generally publish expletives, like fuck or shit. And they use another phrase to substitute it. So what's your point?
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post #3 of 20
11/28/06 at 4:46pm
Most newpapers over here simply blot out the expletives, nigger included. So it would end up looking like this: n----r. Far more acceptable than "the n-word".
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post #4 of 20
11/28/06 at 4:48pm
White Guilt.

It's the only thing I can think of. In threads were the word comes up, I refuse to say "the n-word". We are all adults, if the word nigger is being used in an intelligent discussion, I think we can type it down. For that matter, I refuse to use African-American. I am not European-American, and unless they personally have come over from Africa, they (anyone) is American. Plus, I have no idea if they are from Haiti or some other country. I am white, they are black.

I think white people fear using it, because black people have no word that can equal the word nigger, so they get afraid. The words cracker, honky, white devil, the man, etc don't even come close to the show-stopping effect of the word nigger.
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post #5 of 20
11/28/06 at 4:50pm
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Maybe I'm just sheltered. I saw someting on-line, but from a news source (I can't find it now of course) that just got under my skin and it's been brewing for days now. It just irked me.

I still think it's silly to use n----r, but somehow less bothersome than "the n-word". I mean if it says s--t, I read that as shit. Who are you helping with that? Is it the appearance of the missing letters that we find offensive? the combination of the letters on the page (or screen)? I don't think so.

I agree that it's mostly white guilt. But I think it's gone too far.
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post #6 of 20
11/28/06 at 4:52pm
It's in publications that are readily available to children and other poor influential young things. There's no need to add a sprinkling of profanity to newpapers just because adults know them off by heart already. If you block out the letters, adults know what you're talking about whilst children are still left in the dark.
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post #7 of 20
11/28/06 at 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by Ian Challis
It's in publications that are readily available to children and other poor influential young things. There's no need to add a sprinkling of profanity to newpapers just because adults know them off by heart already. If you block out the letters, adults know what you're talking about whilst children are still left in the dark.
I got no problem with newspapers and such. Typically they use "(expletive)" instead of whatever word was used (or the above mentioned "s--t"). But, using the phrase "n-word" in a thread like the Michael Richards one? I don't get that.
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post #8 of 20
11/28/06 at 4:57pm
Yeah, that's babyish tosh.
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post #9 of 20
11/28/06 at 4:58pm
A lot of heebs do this.
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post #10 of 20
9/26/09 at 8:39pm
Thread Starter 
I swear I had never seen Louis CK's comedy show when I started this thread. But I watched it recently and realized I stole his bit. My white guilt made me want to write an official apology. He did it better.
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post #11 of 20
9/27/09 at 3:06am
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post #12 of 20
9/27/09 at 8:37pm
The Guardian newspaper prints every swearword including 'fuck', 'cunt' and 'nigger'. Surprisingly refreshing for a newspaper to treat the reader like an adult.
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post #13 of 20
9/27/09 at 8:54pm
It seems to me censoring language falls under the same category as censoring "indecent" imagery like nudity. I take it you have a problem with both?
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post #14 of 20
9/28/09 at 6:51am
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Originally Posted by Brian Wehman View Post
. For that matter, I refuse to use African-American. I am not European-American, and unless they personally have come over from Africa, they (anyone) is American. Plus, I have no idea if they are from Haiti or some other country. I am white, they are black.
So what, dlo you also disapprove of irish-american, italian-american, etc?
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post #15 of 20
9/28/09 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by DanielRoffle View Post
So what, dlo you also disapprove of irish-american, italian-american, etc?
Mick and/or Wop, please!
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post #16 of 20
9/28/09 at 11:25am
I dislike turning a fucking word into a boogeyman whose name must not be uttered; but as a white fella I don't really think it's about protecting ME from the hateful word with the centuries of awful baggage, nor is it ultimately up to me to decide how upset another culture should be over it.
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post #17 of 20
9/28/09 at 12:19pm
It's always "Nigger, please!".

But does anyone ever say "Nigger, thank you!"?

No.
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post #18 of 20
9/28/09 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by Rusty Oysterburger View Post
The Guardian newspaper prints every swearword including 'fuck', 'cunt' and 'nigger'. Surprisingly refreshing for a newspaper to treat the reader like an adult.
Also, all comic book films should be SUPER grim and gritty because it makes them more real.
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post #19 of 20
9/28/09 at 12:43pm
Just in case.
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post #20 of 20
9/30/09 at 12:21am
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
I dislike turning a fucking word into a boogeyman whose name must not be uttered; but as a white fella I don't really think it's about protecting ME from the hateful word with the centuries of awful baggage, nor is it ultimately up to me to decide how upset another culture should be over it.
This is the thing though, when white people tend to complain about a double standard (I know you're not, I'm just using your thread as a jumping off point) about not being able to say nigger in the same way a black person does (specifically talking about daily conversations, not in media, which has a whole different set of baggage), there's a point they're not getting: they can say it. It's just that the consequences are going to be different.

I agree that the term 'the n-word' is retarded. Oh, wait, I mean it's 'the
r-word'.
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