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post #51 of 102
11/29/06 at 7:51pm
Getting excited about Mark Steven Johnson adapting a good comic book is like celebrating when a retard gets awarded custody of a child.
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post #52 of 102
11/29/06 at 8:12pm
Tank Girl (with a hot-as-hell Naomi Watts, before she became a blonde) is still much better than anything that I've seen from the creative minds of the proposed writer and director of this project.
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post #53 of 102
11/29/06 at 8:12pm
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Originally Posted by devincf
He's 18 or 20 in the prequel where they wrangle the horses. He's older than that in the main comic.
Round about 25, I always thought, given the timeline in Book 2.
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post #54 of 102
11/29/06 at 8:32pm
Sounds about right.
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post #55 of 102
11/29/06 at 9:54pm
Okay, MSJ has a shitty track record, but I think we can all agree that David Goyer's absence on this project is cause for celebration. I'll still give Preacher a chance as an HBO series.

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Originally Posted by RathBandu
(On an unrelated note, I think Chris Cooper would be awesome as the ghost of John Wayne.)
I had always thought Cooper would make a good Saint of Killers, but the suggestion of Lance Henriksen for that role is even better, and they could probably get that old coot.
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post #56 of 102
11/29/06 at 10:32pm
I pretty much thought this was fanboy bullshit when I posted the rumor in the television forum a few months ago, but considering who happens to be involved, I'm just going to sit back and not even think about it until I see it.
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post #57 of 102
11/29/06 at 11:17pm
I'm not sure about all this. The Daredevil Dircetor's Cut is alittle better then the theatrical. It's got to be better the the director of fucking Tank Girl making a movie about it.
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post #58 of 102
11/29/06 at 11:34pm
I'd like to see Paddy Considine playing Cassidy
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post #59 of 102
11/29/06 at 11:41pm
Well, now.

I'm pleased as punch.

Suggested casting:

Jesse Custer - Timothy Olyphant
Cassidy - Jonathan Rhys Meyers
Tulip - Claire Danes
The Saint of Killers - Ian McShane
Starr - Jurgen Prochnow (sp?)
Arseface - Justin Timberlake (yes, I'm serious)
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post #60 of 102
11/30/06 at 12:48am
Thread Starter 
You left Bruce Campbell out of your Phantasy Casting.
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post #61 of 102
11/30/06 at 1:08am
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Originally Posted by devincf
You left Bruce Campbell out of your Phantasy Casting.
You're hilarious.

Who writes your material? Michael Richards?
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post #62 of 102
11/30/06 at 1:11am
Thread Starter 
I'm looking forward to you editing the content out of that post eventually.
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post #63 of 102
11/30/06 at 1:14am
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Originally Posted by devincf
You left Bruce Campbell out of your Phantasy Casting.
And James Masters.
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post #64 of 102
11/30/06 at 1:17am
Chris Meloni for Jody, please.

That is all.
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post #65 of 102
11/30/06 at 1:25am
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Originally Posted by devincf
I'm looking forward to you editing the content out of that post eventually.
I'm looking forward to you obsessively scouring the message boards.

I wonder which will happen first?

Back on topic..

Chris Meloni is genius casting.
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post #66 of 102
11/30/06 at 1:54am
Jesus wept. I wish I had stopped reading after the first paragraph.
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post #67 of 102
11/30/06 at 3:44am
IF they want someone realitively unknown, but physically looks the part (and can act), then the actor who's Rudy, the "Ice Truck Killer" over on Dexter would work as Jesse.

At least I think so.
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post #68 of 102
11/30/06 at 3:48am
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Originally Posted by Andrew Collins
I agree that Carnivale sucked. Nearly the only HBO show that I have hated.
The Mind of the Married Man.

I never made it through the opening credits.



I'm going to wait until casting news before firing off the FANBOY ANGER~!
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post #69 of 102
11/30/06 at 4:58am
The one, ONLY, property that I feel totally, obsessively, idiotic Transformer fan-like protective about, and THIS is what happens? I'm one of the dorks who was crying HBO series or death, because a film would have obviously been shit no matter what. I get my HBO series, but I get Daredevil boy and a hack for hire?

This is sort of like getting a blowjob from Jessica Alba, only to have her drag her teeth....a lot. Forcefully.

Might as well just get Ashton Kutcher or Dane Cook for Jesse while they're at it. At least I then I won't even give it a chance.
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post #70 of 102
11/30/06 at 5:46am
Honestly, it's like you guys have absolutely no idea how a TV series works. MSJ might be writing the first episode, but the script'll probly be edited by the show runner anyway. And even if he and Deutch do do a bad job, there'll be a shitty pilot, followed by a kickass rest-of-season - provided that the show runner is someone decent, and with HBO I think that's highly probable. Someone like MSJ executive producing probly only means that he used whatever clout he has in hollywood to get the ball rolling. And for that I'm grateful.

Or do you really think that Bryan Singer gives his personal stamp of approval to every episode of House?
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post #71 of 102
11/30/06 at 5:59am
Actually, I don't know how a TV show works. Based on what you told me though, whatever episodes these two schlumps work on will suck and even if that's only one episode it's more guaranteed suck than I wanted to see for this property. After that, the show will be great as long as they hire some actual talent to work on the show, which they haven't yet. HBO usually hires great behind the scenes people, which I agree with you on, but they dropped the ball on these two. Which is all they have now on this show. But things will be fine if they do indeed hire talented people, which they haven't yet. They've only hired these two idiots. Which is what I'm bitching about. But the show will be fine if HBO hires some good writers and a show runner. Which they haven't. Which is what everyone is bitching about right now.

Ergo, shut the fuck up.
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post #72 of 102
11/30/06 at 6:13am
OK. So you think HBO have hired MSJ and Deutch to develop a TV show on their own. Cool.
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post #73 of 102
11/30/06 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by Quarant
there'll be a shitty pilot, followed by a kickass rest-of-season

When has this happened?
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post #74 of 102
11/30/06 at 11:43am
While not shitty, Rome took a turn for the better by the third ep. Heroes also took a sharp upturn as the series got going. I'm sure there are other examples but it's not unheard of for quality to go up after a pilot.
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post #75 of 102
11/30/06 at 12:16pm
While I wouldn't call any of them shitty, Rome, Deadwood, and the Wire all took me a couple episodes to warm up to before completely rocking my shit in the later part of the seasons. With Deadwood, it just took a bit to get used to the style, and the Wire spends a lot of the early part of each season laying the groundwork for stuff that never fails to pay off in spades. Rome is the most dramatic example of a mid-season jump in quality.
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post #76 of 102
11/30/06 at 1:19pm
Pilot scripts are used to get the best talent possible onboard. Pilot episodes are used to lock down series commitments from the network. It's asinine to assume that Preacher can toss out a shitty pilot script/pilot and still get on the air with the financial backing and creative team it'll need to succeed.
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post #77 of 102
11/30/06 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by Slater
Getting excited about Mark Steven Johnson adapting a good comic book is like celebrating when a retard gets awarded custody of a child.
Got Sean Penn nominated for an Oscar. I doubt MSJ will be that lucky.
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post #78 of 102
11/30/06 at 3:55pm
Im wondering how their going to market this.On one hand you dont really need to market it to the fans, becuase you know that no matter what they are going to watch it, but how can you make this story appeal to a wide audiance? Ive just got this feeling its going to go the route of say Serienity, just with a less hardcore fanbase.Plus its not like all Preacher fans have HBO either, so while the show probably will be great, the ratings will most likely suck.(at least until the show gains some steam)Lets just hope it is given a chance to get to that point.
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post #79 of 102
11/30/06 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by livingend287
Im wondering how their going to market this.On one hand you dont really need to market it to the fans, becuase you know that no matter what they are going to watch it, but how can you make this story appeal to a wide audiance?
Tits and blood. Worked for ROME.
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post #80 of 102
11/30/06 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by PodBayDoor
Tits and blood. Worked for ROME.

Eh, I guess that is all it really needs. But Ive just got this strange feeling that in A year or two I'll be able to walk into a store an get a copy of 'Preacher: The Complete Series Three Disc Special Edition Set'.
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post #81 of 102
11/30/06 at 4:27pm
Don't forget that it's HBO, so it will cost you $90.
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post #82 of 102
11/30/06 at 4:50pm
HBO isn't like most networks, in that they don't just cancel a show the moment ratings flag. They generally gives their high profile shows a really good chance. So I've got hope that it won't just be some single-season experiment.
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post #83 of 102
11/30/06 at 5:03pm
That's true. They always seem to give their dramas two seasons before they axe them. If Preacher only does one, it'll be a pretty big failure.
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post #84 of 102
11/30/06 at 5:17pm
The Battlestar Galactica 2.0 miniseries that launched the show was pretty weak, compared to how kickass the weekly series is.
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post #85 of 102
11/30/06 at 8:28pm
I still say Saint of Killers = The Undertaker. Glenn Fabry himself lists The Deadman as inspiration for his cover art.
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post #86 of 102
12/1/06 at 3:56pm
http://www.creature-corner.com/?type=news&id=1957

The writer speaks...
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post #87 of 102
12/1/06 at 4:34pm
PREACHER is my favorite comic next to The Punisher, and I'm glad that it's finally going where it always should have gone. To HBO. I just hope that the adaptation is at least decent. I'm not to upset about MSJ being involved, I liked Daredevil the directors cut, but I'm going to watch the show regardless.

I think they should still try to wrangle James Marsden as Jesse Custer. Katee Sackoff would be an ideal Tulip, if she wasn't on Battlestar Galactica. That show from what I've seen of it, shows that she can kick ass. I remember reading somewhere online, that Clancy Brown would be a good choice for Jody, and even though he's getting older, he'd still be pretty good as the older Jody. My casting for T.C. begins and ends with Steve Buscemi. Rhys Ifans would be a good Cassidy, and I second the casting of Jurgen Prochnow as Herr Starr. Now, the big question is, when they get around to it on the show, who would they get to play the Allfather? I also would think, and this is just after seeing I Come In Peace the other day, but what about Matthias Hues as The Saint Of Killers? Right now, I can't really think of anyone else who's really tall who would fit the bill for the Saint, and he did have hair that resembled the Saint's in I Come In Peace.
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post #88 of 102
12/1/06 at 4:39pm
I just read Alex's link. 6 years of PREACHER sounds great, and it's cool that Johnson wants to stay close to the comic. Is it just me, or does HBO never have a show that goes for more than 6 seasons! OZ had 6 seasons. The Sopranos was broken up into 2 parts season 6 part 1 was just released on dvd. Strange coincidence.
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post #89 of 102
12/1/06 at 6:33pm
The better question is has there ever been a show that ran over 6 seasons without vaulting 5 miles past the shark?
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post #90 of 102
12/1/06 at 8:44pm
Nothing new to add to the discussion, so here's a few (obviously) fantasy casting ideas, in no particular order of preference -

Jesse - Timothy Olyphant, Thomas Jane (add longer hair to his stint in Punisher and you HAVE Dillon's Jesse), Matthew McConaughey

Cassidy - Paul Bettany (he's an actor, I'm sure he can do an Irish accent), Cillian Murphy

Saint Of Killers - pass. Can't think of anyone who isn't an obvious, cliche choice (Clancy Brown). Maybe put Ian McShane in a pair of platforms?

Herr Starr - Sean Bean. Although for some odd reason, I'd get a real kick out of seeing a wickedly made-up, almost unrecognisable Johnny Depp thrusting a .44 Magnum into the camera while chanting "DOOM COCK!". That's just me, though . . .

Jody - Chris Meloni. No one else need apply.

T.C - Nick Stahl, Billy Bob Thornton

Tulip - for years I've always thought of her as the hardest to cast. I could never think of any actress that had both the raw sex appeal and the actual physical toughness and intensity required for the role, while still looking at least somewhat similar to the comic counterpart. Until a few people here mentioned Sackhoff. She wins.
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post #91 of 102
12/1/06 at 9:43pm
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Originally Posted by Schwartz
The better question is has there ever been a show that ran over 6 seasons without vaulting 5 miles past the shark?
South Park
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post #92 of 102
12/1/06 at 10:28pm
I really, really hope they rethink Herr Starr if they do this. His character was just stupid, unfunny, and embarassing by the end of the series.
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post #93 of 102
12/1/06 at 10:31pm
"Every issue of the comic is an hour?" What the FUCK? It's a ridiculously decompressed comic. Every storyline could be padded to an hour, with "Proud Americans" and maybe "War In The Sun" as two-parters. That gets you a single season. And there's no particular need to make an entire episode out of Arseface's backstory or that "Dukes of Hazzard" pastiche with T. C. and Jody.
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post #94 of 102
12/1/06 at 10:40pm
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Originally Posted by Quarant
South Park
Okay. How about a drama or live action show? How long did MASH run again?
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post #95 of 102
12/1/06 at 11:13pm
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Originally Posted by The Prankster
"Every issue of the comic is an hour?" What the FUCK? It's a ridiculously decompressed comic. Every storyline could be padded to an hour, with "Proud Americans" and maybe "War In The Sun" as two-parters. That gets you a single season. And there's no particular need to make an entire episode out of Arseface's backstory or that "Dukes of Hazzard" pastiche with T. C. and Jody.
Yeah, that bit took me by surprise as well . . . I was thinking the entire story would fit perfectly into a 12/13-part series. That's including Saint's origin, Arseface's (if need be), Herr Starr's and the "Tall In The Saddle" 'flashback' . . . no need to do "Good Ol' Boys" . . . it doesn't fit with the rest of the story at all.
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post #96 of 102
12/2/06 at 2:37am
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Originally Posted by The NZ Natural
Yeah, that bit took me by surprise as well . . . I was thinking the entire story would fit perfectly into a 12/13-part series. That's including Saint's origin, Arseface's (if need be), Herr Starr's and the "Tall In The Saddle" 'flashback' . . . no need to do "Good Ol' Boys" . . . it doesn't fit with the rest of the story at all.

C'mon, you don't want to see Ennis' satire of 80's action cliches, and Saddam Hopper saying "You know what I'm going to do to you you son of a whore's crabs?"
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post #97 of 102
12/3/06 at 1:19am
Sweet jesus, why would they do this to preacher?WHY?WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYY YY?Why?
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post #98 of 102
12/4/06 at 5:25pm
I've always wanted Naomi Watts for Tulip. She's tough and hot. She may not have some of the physical assets the part demands, I admit. But she'd still be my choice.
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post #99 of 102
12/4/06 at 5:55pm
Rhys Ifans is an interesting choice, but maybe a bit too dopey for Cassidy. The guy's got to kick some major ass. The more I think about it, the more I think that Cillian Murphy is absolutely perfect for the role. And I vote Haley Joel Osment for Arseface, but only if they really put a bullet through his face.
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post #100 of 102
12/12/06 at 7:27pm
Question for the fans, does Preacher (the book) start off slow or is it just not for me? I read about half of "Gone to Texas" last night, switched over to vol. 3 of Ex Machina and was thinking I might not even return to Jesse Custer and Co. I didn't really hate it, but the art was doing nothing for me, the characters seem more like caricatures, and the story feels like I'm reading the treatment for one of the bad The Prophecy sequels.
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