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post #1 of 76
12/4/06 at 7:15pm
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post #2 of 76
12/4/06 at 7:31pm
Wow, I'd obviously heard about that site during the production of the film, but never actually bothered to visit it. What a bunch of assholes.

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/forf...gfansonly.html

(Note that the URL misspells 'Fleming.')

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The Casino Royale novel was set in the 50’s, some time before the setting of the cinematic version of Dr. No. The new Casino Royale film is not a remake, however it is a reboot. It sets the beginning of Bond’s career in the present day. This reboot wipes out the history of Bond as a Cold War warrior and as an officer of the Navy, prior to becoming an intelligence agent. It also supersedes the previous 20 films, wiping out all the beloved characters and treasured events from them including Bond’s marriage to Tracy Di Vincenzo and her tragic death.
Because I totally bought that Pierce Brosnan had been a superspy at the height of the Cold War.
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post #3 of 76
12/4/06 at 7:39pm
Sounds like some of the Stern fans I keep running across, that think every single Sirius subscriber is listening to his show, and everything that the competition on XM does is a sign of their failure.
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post #4 of 76
12/4/06 at 7:41pm
Holy Christ, did anyone click on their links? There's one site called "Sinking Ship" that's actually MORE insane.
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post #5 of 76
12/4/06 at 7:42pm
These idiots should go and 'get the thrust' of some 'cunning linguist'.

And by that I mean they should get fucked in the ass by a 300 pound lesbian with a 12" strap-on.
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post #6 of 76
12/4/06 at 8:01pm
While I think there's a serious epidemic of superfans, simply people who claim to like movies but really don't, I don't think these dolts were worth the effort.
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post #7 of 76
12/4/06 at 8:02pm
That's fucking awesome. The 8th grade-level web aesthetic on display make it yummier.
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post #8 of 76
12/4/06 at 8:12pm
Spot on, Devin.
What a bizarre site. Do this people ever even watched a James Bond movie? Certainly not "Casino Royale" since they are serious about boycotting it. Marsipan and all the other experts must be feeling really lonely right now. Well they can always close their eyes and drift into their parallel universe.
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post #9 of 76
12/4/06 at 8:20pm

Haters Have to Hate

I am surprised that they have not started making up random "friends" that went to the movie and "only 200 of the 225 seats were filled" or "people left the movie while it was still playing with their empty large soda cups in one hand and the other one on their groin...this shows the movie caused their adominal pain".
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post #10 of 76
12/4/06 at 8:27pm
http://johntowers007.tripod.com/inde...ig%92s_Chances

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Craig has a 40% chance of failure on his own, actually it a 50/50 chance when you consider that there are 6 previous Bonds counting the original Casino Royale (1950’s), half the actors cast as Bond have failed.
None of them had a public outcry, a protest, or a boycott specifically against them.
Give the opposition Craig only has a 28% chance of success. Only 28% because the studios are still behind him for the time being.
I love these people. And some actually still believe that Pierce Brosnan will be back for Bond 22 because Casino Royale wasn't successful enough.
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post #11 of 76
12/4/06 at 8:43pm
I think Transfans is probably the worst name you could give your self. It sounds like you're a fan tranny porn.
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post #12 of 76
12/4/06 at 8:48pm
They almost seem to be more of Brosnan-fans than Bond-fans. Since none of them actually had seen the film before deciding that it was an inevitable fiasco, almost all of the critique goes after poor Craig. He's too ugly and apparently has never shown any acting skills (i.e. they've never actually bothered to see anything he's in), and, of course, he's not Brosnan.

It's amazing to see the kind of eerie cult that can develop around stuff like this and, not least, Transformers. These die-hard fans are not primarily interested in a good and entertaining movie - they just want to see their darlings on screen. They're the only ones who truly understand these characters, and by bringing them to a wider audience, the most ardent "fans" risk being just one in the crowd. Hence all the whining about how these versions aren't "the real Transformers" or "the real Bond" - despite the fact that there already are a myriad of different interpretations of them.
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post #13 of 76
12/4/06 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by BubWilliams
I think Transfans is probably the worst name you could giuve your self. It sounds like you're a fan tranny porn.
Man was I pissed when the link turned out to be a one minute clip of a shitty CGI robot !

On another note, these people probably have the same accountants who said the Matrix sequels tanked at the box office.
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post #14 of 76
12/4/06 at 8:51pm
I thought the Transformer fans were doing all their complaining in a tongue-in-cheek way.
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post #15 of 76
12/4/06 at 9:04pm
The little review of Layer Cake is easily the funniest thing on the sinking ship site.

It reads like somebody who didn't even watch the movie but felt the urge to add his two cents about it.
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post #16 of 76
12/4/06 at 9:27pm
I dare not look, cause then much time will be spent spewing proper bond appreciation at them which will only make them more solid about thier position.

I think international will perhaps push it past DAD, and considering the film remaining in the year itd going to clean house domestic as well.
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post #17 of 76
12/4/06 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by thegoon
The little review of Layer Cake is easily the funniest thing on the sinking ship site. It reads like somebody who didn't even watch the movie but felt the urge to add his two cents about it.
That was the sort of hilarious stuff you couldn't make up even if you tried to. And there's even a bonus with quotes from "some of the negative reviews Craig got to better illustrate how he will be received in Casino Royale"! Brilliant ...
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post #18 of 76
12/4/06 at 9:31pm
That website hurts my eyes.
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post #19 of 76
12/4/06 at 9:47pm
I love danielcraigisnotbond.com. I check it daily.

Seriously. It'll brighten your life. I suppose everyone here missed the webmaster's "Stop making fun of me, I'm right and you're wrong!" letter he posted after last week's box office numbers came in.
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post #20 of 76
12/4/06 at 10:27pm
That main page has a pretty funny idea of fan art.

Also, this gets my "WTF of the day"
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post #21 of 76
12/4/06 at 10:49pm
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Originally Posted by User Name
There are three circles to fandom.

1# The outer ring is made up of people who are just casual fans and don't look into whats being produced and just accept whatever comes out good or bad.

2#The second is a little more hard core in that they look forward to everything that comes out and like to get any information on the upcomming project but don't obsess over every single little detail.

3#The core group is the elite hardcore nerd base that fucking obsesses over every single goddam detail of every motherfucking thing. These are the people that will defend the Star Wars prequels to the death although most sane people think their shit, except for Revenge of the Sith which was quite good.

These are the people that thought Serenity was going to obliterate the box office. These are the people that thought that KING KONG was going to become the highest grossing film of all time despite the fact that it was a remake of a film that came out back in 33 and was already remade back in 76, not to mention that it was about a GIANT FUCKING GORILLA for fucks sakes.

I have my own ideas about what works in a film or doesn't and I can have a reasonable discussion about it and even though we might not see eye to eye I can still be open minded enough to take in new idea's.

People at danielcraigisnotbond.com probably work for the fucking GOP. Such is their delusion that they believe anyone involved with the producion gives a flying fuck about some obsessive nerdboys think.

I'm not really a fan of the Bond series but even I can see that Casino Royale was a much needed kick in tha ass for a series that had calcified back into it's Roger Moore days. I fucking loved Casino Royale and it will become the highest grossing Bond film of all time, at least untill the next one, and no fucking loser living in their parents basement will ever suceed in altering the reality that Casino Royal was just a great fucking movie period.

I laughed out loud multiple times reading through this. Well done, sir.

I never got all the hate that people were slinging Craig's way when he got cast as Bond. Dude's a really good actor. I haven't seen CR yet but plan to (spent too much movie $ on The Fountain lately). I prefer the Bourne films over Bond because they're grittier and play like actual spy flicks, as opposed to action movies about spies, if that makes sense. The consensus that CR works as a gritty reboot to the franchise is very appealing, and I'm glad that Craig is finally getting some love for his efforts. Well, not from these freaks, but you know.
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post #22 of 76
12/4/06 at 11:34pm
Devin, it almost seems that if you like anything about the Transformers, but you don't like the robot designs you are considered a nutcase according to you. I haven't seen much "boycott the transformers" websites or anything, and you very well know even the most picky people that are complaining about that stuff are still looking forward to see the movie.

It doesn't compare to the hatred this guy has for Daniel Craig for sure, even though you are trying to equate it.
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post #23 of 76
12/5/06 at 12:18am
Pathologically obstinate or pathetically delusional? You make the call.

Seriously, these are the same category of "fans" that ensured Lazenby never played the role again. I'm sure there's still some oldtimers insisting that "Connery IS the only Bond!" Sigh.

It really is perverse how "fans" develop an ownership mindset that prohibits them from honestly appraising any form that doesn't fit within their preconceived notion. Sad, little people.
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post #24 of 76
12/5/06 at 12:26am
Yep, devin you are absolutely right about starwars fans lying to themselves about the prequels. They also seem to keep lying to themselves about Return of the Jedi. Poor Kevin Smith.
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post #25 of 76
12/5/06 at 12:52am
Also fun is how they pepper the site with shots of Craig that you just know they think illustrates how "UnBrosnan" he is, but he still looks the part of Fleming's Bond in at least half of them.

Also, I think all these haters are British. And closeted. About cock, not being British.
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post #26 of 76
12/5/06 at 1:05am
These people are more obsessed with Brosnan as Bond than Brosnan is with Bond.
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post #27 of 76
12/5/06 at 1:53am
What stuns me is how most of the hate is directed at Craig himself, as if he is some kind of retarded child molester for taking the role.
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post #28 of 76
12/5/06 at 2:01am
That was actually one of the more disturbing things I've seen on the web. The sheer amount of senseless hate on display is actually upsetting. That someone would take the time to do all that work for absolutely no rational reason. And yeah, the notion that Daniel Craig is somehow personally responsible for fucking up their lives. It hurts me to see this.
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post #29 of 76
12/5/06 at 2:07am
visited the site....wow. Those guys are really pathetic....the make hardcore Trekkies look like uptight Wall Street Business men.
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post #30 of 76
12/5/06 at 2:24am
I also like how so many people on those sites seem to have no idea about what James Bond does.

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One of the first reasons has to be the disturbing bathroom beat down is still very wrong for the series.
The second kill comes off very badly as well. In the first few seconds it is made blatantly clear Casino Royale is not a Bond film. In particular the second killing is completely out of nature for James Bond, even considering the darkest moments in Fleming’s tomes. Part of the colossal mistakes is the second target/victim is unquestionably a more likeable character than Craig’s. Surely they didn’t have to kill him, how about a nice cup of tea and ‘we’ll discuss where you went wrong’. You know, keep it very British.
Seriously what he does to the two guys in the opening isn't any worse than the older films in the series.
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post #31 of 76
12/5/06 at 2:37am
I'm waiting for someone to say Daniel Craig raped their childhood, or some other bullshit like that. The fuckers need to get a life.
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post #32 of 76
12/5/06 at 2:44am
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In particular the second killing is completely out of nature for James Bond, even considering the darkest moments in Fleming’s tomes. Part of the colossal mistakes is the second target/victim is unquestionably a more likeable character than Craig’s. Surely they didn’t have to kill him, how about a nice cup of tea and ‘we’ll discuss where you went wrong’. You know, keep it very British.
That has to be a joke, right?
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post #33 of 76
12/5/06 at 2:47am
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Originally Posted by ElCapitanAmerica
Devin, it almost seems that if you like anything about the Transformers, but you don't like the robot designs you are considered a nutcase according to you. I haven't seen much "boycott the transformers" websites or anything, and you very well know even the most picky people that are complaining about that stuff are still looking forward to see the movie.

It doesn't compare to the hatred this guy has for Daniel Craig for sure, even though you are trying to equate it.
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Originally Posted by El Thain
Yep, devin you are absolutely right about starwars fans lying to themselves about the prequels. They also seem to keep lying to themselves about Return of the Jedi. Poor Kevin Smith.
I think that both of you are missing the point.
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post #34 of 76
12/5/06 at 2:56am
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Originally Posted by 70sCinema
That has to be a joke, right?
These hardcore fans clearly never read _Octopussy_.
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post #35 of 76
12/5/06 at 4:14am
Fans like these are the reason I avoid pretty much all of the movie boards on the net. (Not to kiss all your asses, but CHUD is quite a stand-out.) It's definitely what drove me away from Hollywood Elsewhere (aside from Wells' regularly repelant personality). Reading the thoughts of some chucklehead who is willing to ignore plain old black-and-white fact in order to stick it to someone doing their thing just makes my eyeballs ache.

The best punishment for these Daniel Craig haters will be reality as the man goes on to make more Bond films that are (hopefully) as satisfying as CR and continues to rake in the buck and audiences.
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post #36 of 76
12/5/06 at 4:40am
I love their logical reasoning when they first encourage people to boycott Bond and go see Happy Feet instead, just to make a point, and then declare that the movie is a fiasco since it made less money than Happy Feet.

Normally, you would think that fans overestimate the potential in whatever property they're in to, but these Bond- and Transformers-fans just seem determined to hate the films witout even giving them a chance. They also seem to think that if the films are economic disasters, the producers will somehow realise that they must put up more money to make a new movie that's aimed at the hardcore (read: smaller) audience.
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post #37 of 76
12/5/06 at 5:32am
If these so-called fans knew anything about Bond/Fleming they would see Craig is pefect for the role. As usual they are talking out of their asses and not in the funny, Jim Carrey way.
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post #38 of 76
12/5/06 at 5:33am
Transformers fans are pathetic.

A Fucking robot.
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post #39 of 76
12/5/06 at 8:02am
In an alternate universe .............. if I really struggled and set aside my disdain for these pathetic excuses for 'fans' .................... I could maybe, one day, understand some of what they are feeling.

I mean - no-one wants an actor known for playing an iconic character replaced. If Stallone suddenly stepped out of Rocky and Ben Affleck took it on instead, there would be much wailing and gnashing of teeth. We don't want to see Indiana Jones being played by George Clooney (as good as he is) whilst Harrison Ford is busy getting his other ear pierced.

But this is James Bond for crying out loud. Having different actors play Bond is the norm now and if anything, it makes the series even more interesting over the years. You can't go onto any film forum anywhere in existence without seeing that immortal question at least once : Who was the best Bond? I can't think of a single other film franchise which generates that amount of interest in the lead character.

Anyhow, having seen the film, I thought Craig was superb. Nothing like Brosnan, Moore, etc .......... but still superb. Different is not always bad, and these hardcore obsessive fans need to learn that lesson quickly.

Gaz
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post #40 of 76
12/5/06 at 8:12am
[Angry Typing Guy]This is not what I'm used to! This is different from what my normal daily experience is! Be like everything else in my life!"[/ATG]
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post #41 of 76
12/5/06 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by General Zod
Transformers fans are pathetic.

A Fucking robot.
There's a robot called "Transformers"?
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post #42 of 76
12/5/06 at 11:02am
Kind of random quote, but one could quote pretty much anything written on these sites to show the lunacy of "fans".

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About all of those to whom we have talked, to say they are passionate is like saying the Pope is Catholic. It is a little too obvious and understates how they truly feel.
The people we have talked with truly care about 007, to some he has been the one constant steady aspect of their lives that could be counted on.

A few have lost family and Bond took a place of comfortable familiarity that helped remind of pleasant times and happy memories.
A few have lived through trying times that I think most of us could not begin to imagine.
We have heard from people from Central & South America, Europe, Russia, The Middle East, Africa, and Asia and what they have told me 007 means to them is awe inspiring. They know James Bond isn’t real, they even know, well they suspect that there is no 00 branch of MI6. But what the idea of Bond means to them is better than anything Ian Fleming ever could have written.
The overwhelming sentiment is one of outrage and disappointment at the selection of Daniel Craig. Craig does not embody the attributes they know 007 must have.
It is personally offensive to them to have a person they care about (real or fictional) treated this way.
So if you loose a family member you do what? Watch a James Bond movie to fuck the pain away???
I first thought that this site is for comic relief. But I think psychotic people like this are genuinely dangerous. Socialy retarded might be even considered a compliment in these cases.
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post #43 of 76
12/5/06 at 12:36pm
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"Bond" movies are all about explosions, hot women and one-liners. This movie has very little in the way of any of those.
Ummmm... Have these people ever actually read an Ian Fleming novel? Or are they basing their opinions on Die Another Day?

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"Bond" movies also feature Halle Berry as superspy/nymphette Jinx and generally star this one Japanese bad guy. I don't really remember what his name is. I call him Diamondface.
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post #44 of 76
12/5/06 at 1:11pm
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Originally Posted by Jan Travolta
Kind of random quote, but one could quote pretty much anything written on these sites to show the lunacy of "fans".

So if you loose a family member you do what? Watch a James Bond movie to fuck the pain away???
I first thought that this site is for comic relief. But I think psychotic people like this are genuinely dangerous. Socialy retarded might be even considered a compliment in these cases.
Mom's dead...break out "Moonraker".
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post #45 of 76
12/5/06 at 1:19pm
This is the sort of thing that happens with pre- and post-Crisis interpretations of Superman, which is why I don't like to talk about that stuff online (Hell, I myself have gone off and spewed hate, because of some bad mood or whatever).

Sites like these are there for the hater to justify his hatred, and they seem to have an echo chamber effect - the more they spew hate, the stronger the hate gets, it just keeps getting louder as it bounces off itself.
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post #46 of 76
12/5/06 at 1:24pm
Take the "Han shot first" contingent, mix it with the anit-organic webshooters faction, throw in a dose of the "Balrog doesn't have wings" adherents, and you still don't come near the batshit insanity on that site.
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post #47 of 76
12/5/06 at 1:33pm
God. GOD!

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This Boycott wasn't just about returning Pierce to the role of Bond, it was about standing up for what you believe in, trying to make a difference and caring about what the fans wanted. Did you care at all about what Pierce was promised? How after he saved the bond Franchise they rudely fired him and lied to him and the fans for over a year? Did You care that Pierce has always given his best to the Fans, so in turn we felt we would do the same?

It was YOUR Daniel Craig who said he didn't give a Damn about the fans (His words)...not to mention Miss Greens foul remarks. Pierce is a good family man, with wonderful Values, he fights for many great causes he deeply believes in, he has Talent, wit, charm, Charisma, talent and a character that Daniel Craig will Never come close to having. Considering the way he was treated and lied to, he is TOO GOOD FOR BOND. B. Broccoli and Mr. Wilson, you should be ashamed of how you treated Pierce, not to mention the fans. And to be SO disrespectful to your Father and his wishes, it only shows what kind of people you truly are. All your Money, lies and hate campaigns really didn't save you did it? You Lost so many Bond Fans you will never get back.

And to you Mr. Craig, how did it feel to Lie directly to Pierce's face? Did it make you feel good to know that a good portion of your support comes from Gay men? This site is not *homophobic* as some of you have claimed. But it does NOT support the Gay life style or think it is the right life style. I am tired of hearing
your comebacks of * That site is just all homophobic*! YOU chose to live that lifestyle...so you deal with the consequences. Stop using it as an excuse.
I was less than thorough and only just now learned the site's main driving force is a woman.
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post #48 of 76
12/5/06 at 1:35pm
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"he has Talent, wit, charm, Charisma, talent"

Is he capitalizing the ones that are D&D character attributes?
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post #49 of 76
12/5/06 at 1:40pm
Talent so nice they said it twice!

It makes sense that a huge contingent of Bond fans would be homophobes, no?
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post #50 of 76
12/5/06 at 1:57pm
Seriously if this movie is worse than the last Bond Film with Pierce Broson and Halle Berry then their is seriously something wrong with the directors. I think that Broson was a good Bond, but their obviously needed to be a change. I was a little upset that Hugh Jackman didn't take the Bond role because I could picture him being really good at the part but Daniel Craig is a very talented actor. His performance was great.
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