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post #51 of 78
Actually the Islamic invasion of Europe was two sided. Around the same time the battle of Tours happened, another equally big battle, mostly naval, took place outside the walls of Constantinople. The Arab navy was defeated by the Byzantine fleet mostly by the use of Greek fire. These battles marked the high point of the Islamic conquests but although the battle of Tours was in many ways the beginning of the Reconquista ( the recapture of Spain by the Christians ) the Middle East and Asia Minor were never again securely in Christian hands.

(Sorry for that. It's just the history geek in me.)
post #52 of 78
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Originally Posted by Matt Goldberg
"Just Like You Imagined"
cheers matt!
post #53 of 78
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Originally Posted by Madman Mundt
3) That last line is horrible, horrible.
Hey, at least the line wasn't: "We're in for one wild ride!"
post #54 of 78
I saw someone mention the filter used in the trailer (movie) is called "the crush." Any truth to that?
post #55 of 78
That's the name of the process they used to get the comic's look on the screen. From what I remember they shot the scenes in HD and then reduced the color spectrum so that the colors match more closely the ink used in the comics and that the images appeared flatter.

That's from the top of my head and I might be missing a couple of steps in the process.
post #56 of 78
It's also used to make the characters appear to be bathed in sunlight when they're actually in a standardly lit studio.
post #57 of 78
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by stelios
That's the name of the process they used to get the comic's look on the screen. From what I remember they shot the scenes in HD and then reduced the color spectrum so that the colors match more closely the ink used in the comics and that the images appeared flatter.

That's from the top of my head and I might be missing a couple of steps in the process.
They walked me through it when I was on set last year, but I totally forget. Your version sounds right. It is called the crush.
post #58 of 78
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Originally Posted by BobClark
You can't take this movie seriously. It's the Starship Troopers of historical dramas.
I came to that conclusion after seeing the first trailer,and noting that the armor the Presians where has nothing to do with what they actually wore.Looked more like something the hosts of Sauron would wear in a LOTR prequel.

300 might be enormous fun,but I am a little mad it killed off any chance of "Gates of Fire" being filmed.
post #59 of 78
I just want to take the time to thank Devin here for providing the heads up on these trailers as well as this movie.

If it weren't for these, I would probably never see this film in the theater. Now, I must. These are some of the best trailers I've ever seen for a movie.
Visually exciting, each scene such a composition that your eyes can just not turn away for a moment. Dramatic. Stunning. Just absolutely stunning.

I've saved both the teaser and this one on my desktop. Gotta watch these two over and over again. Hell, first thing in the morning - they both kick more ass than my morning cup of coffee. What a wake up!
post #60 of 78
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Originally Posted by stelios
Actually the Islamic invasion of Europe was two sided. Around the same time the battle of Tours happened, another equally big battle, mostly naval, took place outside the walls of Constantinople. The Arab navy was defeated by the Byzantine fleet mostly by the use of Greek fire. These battles marked the high point of the Islamic conquests but although the battle of Tours was in many ways the beginning of the Reconquista ( the recapture of Spain by the Christians ) the Middle East and Asia Minor were never again securely in Christian hands.

(Sorry for that. It's just the history geek in me.)
No, I love history, so it's much appreciated. And it also gives Thermopylae another thing in common with Tours--there was also a large naval battle between the Greeks and the Persians (the Battle of Artemisium), going on at the same time as Leonidas' stand.
post #61 of 78
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Originally Posted by stelios
That's the name of the process they used to get the comic's look on the screen. From what I remember they shot the scenes in HD and then reduced the color spectrum so that the colors match more closely the ink used in the comics and that the images appeared flatter.

That's from the top of my head and I might be missing a couple of steps in the process.
image>reduce colors>256?
There's obviously more to it than that, and I am very interested. As much as I love the bacterial soup of the fountain, this is another production that's vying for my most wanted dvd slot.
post #62 of 78
A comic and subsequent comic-based movie could easily convey a much higher level of accuracy/realism.

This one doesn't, and looks like it could be quite fun... though I'm really not sure what I think of the look yet, we'll see how it holds for an entire film... Sin City did surprise me..
post #63 of 78
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Originally Posted by stelios
Actually the Islamic invasion of Europe was two sided. Around the same time the battle of Tours happened, another equally big battle, mostly naval, took place outside the walls of Constantinople. The Arab navy was defeated by the Byzantine fleet mostly by the use of Greek fire. These battles marked the high point of the Islamic conquests but although the battle of Tours was in many ways the beginning of the Reconquista ( the recapture of Spain by the Christians ) the Middle East and Asia Minor were never again securely in Christian hands.

(Sorry for that. It's just the history geek in me.)

I can't wait to see this movie. Ever since I read the graphic novel I thought someone would make it into a movie and it looks like they did a good job of translating the art from the page to the screen. The only reservation I have is the mutant guy. That could come off as Chunk on major roids, and that isn't going to fly with me. If he opens his mouth and people start laughing I'm going to cringe. At least King Leonidas kicks ass.

In response to your post up above, it is interesting that today Muslims don't need an army to invade Europe, just some really good lawyers.
post #64 of 78
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Originally Posted by Winjer
A comic and subsequent comic-based movie could easily convey a much higher level of accuracy/realism.
When the hell did "accuracy/realism" become a requirement for comic books and the movies based on them? If comic books adhered to these standards, well, they wouldn't be comic books.
post #65 of 78
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Originally Posted by Emarten
In response to your post up above, it is interesting that today Muslims don't need an army to invade Europe, just some really good lawyers.
What the fuck are you talking about?
post #66 of 78
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Originally Posted by Jan Travolta
What the fuck are you talking about?
read much?

December 03, 2003, 8:40 a.m.
European Dishonor
Sharia on the Old Continent.

By Lorenzo Vidino & Erick Stakelbeck

Young women killed for dating. Limbs amputated for petty theft. Makeshift courts deciding the fates of members of local Muslim communities. The Western world has grown accustomed to hearing about the brutalities of Islamic law. However, these primitive practices are no longer limited to the remote tribal areas of Pakistan, the backward kingdom of Saudi Arabia, or oppressive, mullah-dominated Iran. Today, thanks in large part to a massive flow of immigration from Muslim countries, sharia law and medieval customs are becoming increasingly common in the heart of Christian Europe.

One of the most shocking examples of this new reality occurred in Sweden last year, when a Kurdish woman was killed by her father for having a romantic relationship with a Swedish man. Fadime Sahindal, 26, had taken her father and brother to sharia court in 1998, alleging that they had threatened to kill her for refusing to marry a Kurdish man the family had chosen for her. The two received only light sentences, however, and continued to abuse Fadime until, in 2002, her father shot and killed her. Disturbingly, the young woman was well aware of the fate that awaited her, as she said during the 1998 trial: "The only way for the family to regain its honor now that I have spread dishonor over it is to kill me."

Cases similar to Fadime's have been reported in France and Denmark. In England last September, a Kurdish father slit his daughter's throat because he disapproved of her Christian boyfriend and Westernized way of life. And, recently, in the port town of Taranto in southern Italy, a Muslim man who suspected that his wife had committed adultery decided — after consulting with members of his local Muslim community — that she should be stoned to death. The tragedy was only averted thanks to the intervention of local police.

Honor killings are not limited to Muslim countries and are, in fact, a common practice in several third-world cultures. Not all Muslims approve of them, and, according to some Muslim scholars, they do not reflect "real Islam." Nevertheless, the Koran itself permits men to beat their wives (Chapter 4, Verse 34), and the sharia-inspired penal codes of most Muslim countries give the benefit of the doubt to a man who kills his wife, daughter, or sister for engaging in adulterous or immoral behavior. This barbaric practice, which has not been seen in European countries in well over a century, is making an unsavory return within the Old Continent's Muslim communities.

The effects of the application of sharia in Europe are not limited to Muslim women. Last year, in the small Italian town of Eboli, hospital workers treated a young Algerian man whose fingers on his right hand had been chopped off. Under questioning, the man refused to reveal how he had sustained his injuries, but investigators have no doubt that he was the victim of punishment carried out according to Islamic law. Authorities in southern Italy, where many migrants from North Africa flock to work in agriculture, are becoming accustomed to such incidents. A Sicilian doctor revealed to the Italian magazine Panorama that victims of violent sharia justice go to the hospital only as a last resort, "when the bleeding is serious." He added that he had become knowledgeable about how amputations must be made according to Islamic tradition (the hand has to be chopped off piece by piece, without breaking any bones).

While these incidents may seem isolated, in actuality, several Muslim groups in Europe openly advocate the introduction of sharia in the West. Uneducated immigrants might use sharia simply because it is a system they are more familiar with, but militant Islamic organizations push for the introduction of Islamic law because they believe it is a superior system, the law revealed by God, and therefore the only acceptable law.

In Germany, Milli Gorus, a militant Turkish Islamic organization with more than 200,000 members, is accused by German intelligence of promoting Islamic law among Turkish immigrants in Europe. The August 2001 issue of Milli Gorus's official publication, Milli Gazete, featured an article stating that "A religious Muslim is also at the same time an advocate for sharia. The state, the media, and the courts have no rights to interfere. The allegiance of a Muslim to sharia cannot be condemned or questioned."

In Britain, the rapid spread of radical Islam in urban areas has led to major social exclusion and the development of sharia among England's Muslims. Al-Muhajiroun, a London-based fundamentalist group with sympathizers throughout Britain's burgeoning Muslim communities, has made the struggle against "man-made law" one of the key points of its agenda, declaring that its members do not recognize English law, but only Islamic law. (Nevertheless, al-Muhajiroun's leaders do not disdain collecting unemployment benefits generously granted by English "man-made law.")

In Italy, mainstream Muslim groups have asked for the introduction of Islamic marriages with no legal effects under Italian law, a de facto subtraction of the wedlock from the control of authorities. This request is aimed at creating a situation where two different legal systems regulate the lives of two different groups of citizens within the same state. In European legal history, it would represent a jump back to the Middle Ages, when different laws applied to different ethnicities. In practical terms, it would mean that Italian citizens of Muslim faith would be subtracted from the guarantees that the Italian legal system provides to its citizens. Therefore, while Christian Italian women would have the same rights as Italian men, Muslim Italian women would have very few rights. While a Christian woman would have the right to obtain a divorce simply by filing papers, a Muslim woman would have to go to great lengths to prove ill treatment at the hands of her husband.

Multiculturalists and leftist defenders of uncontrolled immigration, uneasy when confronted with episodes of the brutal application of sharia in Europe's Muslim ghettoes, are quick to predict that these incidents will disappear once Muslims are wealthier and better integrated into Western society through marriage to native Europeans. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that these predictions will come true in the foreseeable future. Muslims in Europe account for the vast majority of those living under the poverty line, and Muslim neighborhoods are the poorest areas in nearly every European city. Furthermore, statistics show that the majority of European Muslims are not marrying indigenous Europeans but other Muslims, either from their country of origin or from within local Muslim communities.

Politically correct European politicians, ever mindful not to offend their newly arrived Muslim brethren, have done little to aid in the assimilation process. As a result, immigrants who settle in Europe's Muslim communities are often greeted with the same sharia-inspired mayhem that they left behind in their countries of origin. From England to Holland to Greece, many European Muslims have managed to segregate themselves from society at large and maintain harsh traditions ill-suited to the West. As the number of unassimilated Muslims grows and Europe's elites continue to remain silent, the ultimate victim may turn out to be Western civilization itself.

— Erick Stakelbeck is head writer and Lorenzo Vidino is an attorney and terrorism analyst at the Investigative Project, a Washington, D.C.-based counterterrorism think tank.
post #67 of 78
300 is better than sex.

FUCKING AMAZING.
post #68 of 78
Yeah, but you said the same thing about The Passion.
post #69 of 78
Thread Starter 
Nordling, have you been doing sex right?
post #70 of 78
'in the heart of Christian Europe' - this is not an objective decription of the actual religous status of Europe. I think you will find western europe does not generally consider the designation of 'Christian' at front and center of any all encompassing gross generalisation of European culture.

On 300 I miss the 'Then. We Will Fight. In the Shade' bit from the teaser. But 'This. Is. Sparta.' almost makes up for it.

Looks awesome for 2.30 minutes, I hope the intensity can be maintained for the entire running time without getting dull. I have impossibly high expectations.
post #71 of 78
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Originally Posted by devincf
Nordling, have you been doing sex right?
No complaints.

Hyperbolic, yeah. Still, a great movie.
post #72 of 78
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Originally Posted by Slater
Yeah, but you said the same thing about The Passion.
He's only exaggerating a bit.
post #73 of 78
Every time Nordling has sex, he saves humanity.
post #74 of 78
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Originally Posted by Emarten
Irrational, xenophobic stream of unending bullshit.
Stick your particular brand of neo-fascist retardation in Political Discourse where everyone can ignore you.
post #75 of 78
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Originally Posted by Emarten
In response to your post up above, it is interesting that today Muslims don't need an army to invade Europe, just some really good lawyers.
And thats why it's bad to post off topic.Sorry everyone.
post #76 of 78
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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman
He's only exaggerating a bit.
I meant to type "a little bit." Goddamnit.
post #77 of 78
I take it that's from the BNAT screening? Yeah, maybe reduce that by about half. So not as good as sex, but as good as a blowjob.
post #78 of 78
I remember the comics had the Quasimoto-looking guy and I've seen the ogre (about 1:46 in) in the teaser before, but who's the looker about 2:12 into the trailer? Fat, bald dude with the nose ring and blade arms... Ka-Razy!
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