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Fletch Lives

post #1 of 18
12/10/06 at 5:49pm
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Found this in the cheap bin at Wal-Mart. Chase is a fool for not doing more of these. His best comedy of the 80's. Kevin Smith is a bigger fool for not doing his version with Jason Lee.

Damn funny all the way around. I love the animated dream sequence.

To think this and Christmas Vacation were released the same year.

I miss this Chevy.
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post #2 of 18
12/10/06 at 6:07pm
As hard as I tried, I could never get into Fletch Lives. The first Fletch is a movie I could watch every day of the year and never get bored. I've loved it since I was a little kid, and Chase's performance is masterful. Fletch Lives, however, never did it for me. Maybe I need to get the DVD and give it another shot. After all, "What can I do to you? For you?" is so good that I can't write off the film just yet.

Anybody ever read any of the Fletch novels? Which ones are worth reading, or are they all solid?
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post #3 of 18
12/10/06 at 6:38pm
Actually, Kevin Smith badly wanted to make his Fletch movie with Jason Lee, but Miramax would never greenlight it because Lee wasn't a big enough star. (This was pre-My Name Is Earl.)
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post #4 of 18
12/10/06 at 8:10pm
Yeah, Miramax (and now The Weinstein Company) want Zach Braff in the role.
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post #5 of 18
12/10/06 at 9:00pm
Good plan. Get chicks in the seats to see a "Fletch" movie.
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post #6 of 18
12/10/06 at 10:31pm
I dig this film as well. One of my favorite parts is when Chase gets stuck in the prison with Randall Cobb.

Fletch: "What's your name?"

Inmate: "Bend over."

Fletch: "Ben....nice to meet you? Wh...what are you in for?"

Inmate: "Molesting a dead horse."

Fletch: "Oooh, nothing wrong with that I'm trying to cut down myself!"
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post #7 of 18
12/10/06 at 10:49pm
nah nah... the last line of that joke was "is that a felony or a misdemeanour".

Great movies, both.
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post #8 of 18
12/12/06 at 3:16am
fletch lives definitely feels a bit more "zany" and more cartoony than the first movie, which I too feel is pretty much the best Chase performance ever.

Lives is still a good movie because its just Chase being Chase, which was a lesson that he (or his agent) just never learned was his cash cow.

If Chase continued to be Chase today, you would have Vince Vaughn (save for that psycho remake endeavor)
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post #9 of 18
12/12/06 at 6:08am
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Vince Vaughn might work, but he sometimes comes off too nice. Chase is an out-right asshole and revels in his behavior. That's why Lives works so good.

Not sure if the years have mellowed or hardened Chase, but a sequel is long overdue.
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post #10 of 18
12/12/06 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by Highway 61
As hard as I tried, I could never get into Fletch Lives. The first Fletch is a movie I could watch every day of the year and never get bored. I've loved it since I was a little kid, and Chase's performance is masterful. Fletch Lives, however, never did it for me. Maybe I need to get the DVD and give it another shot. After all, "What can I do to you? For you?" is so good that I can't write off the film just yet.

Anybody ever read any of the Fletch novels? Which ones are worth reading, or are they all solid?

Watch it again. Funny stuff.
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post #11 of 18
12/12/06 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by General Zod
Chase is an out-right asshole and revels in his behavior. That's why Lives works so good.
That could probably explain why the first Fletch works so well too. Chase is known as an asshole and playing yourself, and getting away with it in the name of character, is what's so great about Fletch; sarcasm, wit, sexism, the whole nine yards.

The same could be said of Vaughn, I imagine. Swingers, Made, Clay Pigeons, The Break-Up, you name the flick - he plays basically the same, smartass, selfish, fast talking guy in each one. While I haven't met him in person, I can only imagine that he's very much the same. Not much of a stretch in acting there.
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post #12 of 18
12/12/06 at 5:12pm
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Originally Posted by Highway 61
Anybody ever read any of the Fletch novels? Which ones are worth reading, or are they all solid?
I've read about 5-6 of them:

Fletch
Fletch Won
Fletch, Too
Fletch and the Widow Bradley
Carioca Fletch
Confess, Fletch

Carioca Fletch is the worst of the bunch. While I whipped right through the others, it took me forever to finish this one. There's just too much crap going on, and too much description of what Fletch is seeing--you start losing track of what's going on. The rest of them are pretty good, and you can just picture Chevy (or Jason Lee or Zach Braff) rattling off Fletch's lines. It's especially fun to read "Fletch" after seeing the movie, because while it follows a lot of the plot points as the movie, the book goes off in a completely different direction for the ending. Fletch Won is also fun as well. That's the "prequel" book that has been the rumored next movie.
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post #13 of 18
12/12/06 at 6:02pm
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Originally Posted by zak chase
Actually, Kevin Smith badly wanted to make his Fletch movie with Jason Lee, but Miramax would never greenlight it because Lee wasn't a big enough star. (This was pre-My Name Is Earl.)

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Originally Posted by Dross
Yeah, Miramax (and now The Weinstein Company) want Zach Braff in the role.
Jason Lee? Zach Braff?
How about Chevy Chase?
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post #14 of 18
12/12/06 at 6:57pm
Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I think "Lives" had a bit of a different vibe because it was a new script, not a screenplay based on one of the books. Why they would do that, I have no idea.
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post #15 of 18
12/16/06 at 6:02am
I saw Fletch Lives before Fletch, and I still like Lives better. It's just a fun movie, even though Fletch does come off as an ass at times. It's as said before, Chase being Chase. I like the musical interlude, and Fletch's scene in the jail cell with Randall "Tex" Cobb.

Cobb: Take your pants off.
Chase: I don't even know your name.
Cobb: Bend over.
Chase: Nice to meet you Ben, Victor Hugo.

Classic stuff.
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post #16 of 18
12/16/06 at 6:44am
yes its true Fletch lives was an original screenplay with no influence from the books.
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post #17 of 18
12/16/06 at 8:23am
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It was smart move as the movie is all Chevy. Again, a damn fool for not making as many of these as possible. Still could.
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post #18 of 18
12/19/06 at 7:53am
i read all the books in the series (7? 9?) and liked them so much i even wrote the author a fan letter. but i was only 16 and my tastes were not very sophisticated.

but i was such a fan of the books it caused me to resent the movies because of the changes to the characters and storylines. the movies were definitely spoiled by my loyalty to the books.
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