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post #51 of 75
1/18/07 at 4:41pm
Eh, I'm no lawyer, but that sounds thin at best. O'Reilly doesn't host a news show. He hosts an op-ed show. Should every pundit be charged with slander for publicly casting doubt on a politician's motives? For calling Bush a liar? For calling OJ a murderer? For calling 911 widows opportunistic shrews?
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post #52 of 75
1/18/07 at 5:22pm
In other scummy news, didn't this kid JUST get home...?

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post #53 of 75
1/18/07 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by BobClark
Eh, I'm no lawyer, but that sounds thin at best. O'Reilly doesn't host a news show. He hosts an op-ed show. Should every pundit be charged with slander for publicly casting doubt on a politician's motives? For calling Bush a liar? For calling OJ a murderer? For calling 911 widows opportunistic shrews?
It's been a while since my Media Law class as an undergrad, but I remember (and Wikipedia is refreshing my memory to some extent) that the law makes some distinctions between public figures like Bush, OJ, etc. and private citizens like this kid in these instances due to New York Times v. Sullivan. It basically amounts to having a higher burden of proof - proving actual malice on the part of the accused libeler - when it comes to public figures. Since this kid didn't intentionally put his name out there, it's not necessary to prove that O'Reilly meant direct harm to him, so there's more of a case to be made on his behalf.

I'm pretty sure this covers both libel (printed speech) and slander (transitory speech), but I may be wrong about that. Perhaps one of the lawyers here can clarify.
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post #54 of 75
1/18/07 at 5:52pm
I'm first year, and haven't covered libel, slander, or defamation, but DaveB is right about there being different standards for public figures and private citizens. The kid should be suing yesterday.
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post #55 of 75
1/18/07 at 6:45pm
The thing that really annoys me about O'Reilly is that he's the kind of pussy that would never say anything to your face.
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post #56 of 75
1/18/07 at 9:27pm
Didn't he also call for an crack-down investigation on horror films last Halloween?
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post #57 of 75
1/18/07 at 10:17pm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,226640,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,226685,00.html

He makes a couple statements in there that make no sense from any standpoint, like:

"FOX distributed "The Hills Have Eyes," a cannibalistic, sadistic thing. FOX did that, but I never hear the executives explaining it. They just throw it out there, and then they run for cover."
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post #58 of 75
1/19/07 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by Kueller
I like how he uses this platform to make a completely pointless dig against the French:
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Originally Posted by Bill O'Reilly
Besides how would you like to say Bon-bons ou batons all night long? That's "trick-or-treat" in Francais. Bon-bons ou batons, bon-bons ou batons.

Ridiculous? You make the call.
"The French really have nothing to do with my argument, but...isn't their language silly?"
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post #59 of 75
1/20/07 at 1:08am
Thread Starter 
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/0...ll-have-a-job/

I figured Olbermann would chime in on this.
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post #60 of 75
1/20/07 at 2:03am
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/0...ll-have-a-job/

I figured Olbermann would chime in on this.
I asked for it earlier and you delivered. Thank you sir!
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post #61 of 75
1/20/07 at 5:29am
But what does psychic Sylvia Browne think about all this?
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post #62 of 75
1/20/07 at 10:10pm
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Originally Posted by Ian Challis
I'm trying to decide whether Carnotaur3 is yet another well-disguised troll, or really just this stupid. I'm leaning towards the former, as he seems to find himself on the contrary side of every thread he posts in.
He seems serious to me. He doesn't take it to the ridiculous levels that trolls like Septim do. Plus the majority of his posts in the movie threads seem like he is actually intrested in discussion.
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post #63 of 75
1/21/07 at 12:45am
As terrible as O'Reilly's statement may be, he'll get away with it and he'll do it again. Like David Letterman, I don't think O'Reilly actually believes half the shit he spews but that's unimportant because it's not about honesty, facts, or even provoking intelligent debate. It's about getting attention. It's the media-equivalent of putting your hand up your ass, pulling out a giant wad of feces, and smearing it all over the place. It's obscene, it's disgusting, it's crazy, and it's how someone without any real talent can get noticed.
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post #64 of 75
2/1/07 at 12:15am
Sooo.. photos are being released of this kid posing for the camera while being "kidnapped". He doesn't look too frightened or in distress.

He is disturbed though. No doubt about that.
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post #65 of 75
2/1/07 at 12:34am
It doesn't matter if the whole thing turns out to have masterminded the whole thing, plus leaked Valerie Plame's name to the press. O'Reilly's comments were based on nothing but his dislike of piercings. Even if he happens to be right, it's still a terribly irresponsible thing to do.
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post #66 of 75
2/1/07 at 12:50am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zollicoffer
Sooo.. photos are being released of this kid posing for the camera while being "kidnapped". He doesn't look too frightened or in distress.
Oh, yeah I see your point, he must have totally enjoyed being buttfucked then.
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post #67 of 75
2/1/07 at 2:02am
You keep bringing that up. I'm believing that about as much as I believe any other piece of shit information that comes out of this ridiculous ever-changing story.

The kid is fucked up. I'm sure he has a line of instances just like this. It's proven fact those who have a history of abuse, sexual or emotional or any kind, tend to re-create that.

And while going down this road, they do seem to be detacted to some sort of reality, and do seem to go along with it as if it was meant to be or "okay".

So again, I'm still skeptical about anything that comes out of this. But I will not be surprised if this kid has a traumatic history.
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post #68 of 75
2/1/07 at 2:06am
So glad that expert Zollicoffer, who has interviewed all involved and studied the case thoroughly is here to offer his informed opinion. Not too detacted, I hope.
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post #69 of 75
2/1/07 at 2:10am
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Originally Posted by devincf
So glad that expert Zollicoffer, who has interviewed all involved and studied the case thoroughly is here to offer his informed opinion. Not too detacted, I hope.
I'm no expert, but it is a very informed and studied opinion.
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post #70 of 75
2/1/07 at 2:16am
Thread Starter 
Well, if it is informed, I'm having a hard time seeing your point.
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post #71 of 75
2/1/07 at 2:16am
I'll join the "O'Reilly is scummy" bandwagon. The idiot wants Ted Turner arrested for today's excitement in Boston.
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post #72 of 75
2/1/07 at 3:54am
What I like is that now O'Reilly is attacking some broad over at NBC News for apparently having an inappropriate relationship with some other guy. But I seem to remember something about O'Reilly stalking some girl and leaving lewd messages on her phone... but I guess that's ok. He's also claiming that NBC News has taken a lefty agenda and spreading propaganda? WHAT THE FUCK? He knows who he works for right?


Someone should email the show and see if they get a response: Oreilly@foxnews.com
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post #73 of 75
2/1/07 at 2:24pm
Yeah, Fox!
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post #74 of 75
2/2/07 at 1:37am
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"And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200511100008
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post #75 of 75
2/5/07 at 7:28pm
Well, looks like Pappa Bear is losing some serious advertising support:

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Originally Posted by IMDb
Lowe's, the national home-improvement chain, has pulled its ads from Fox News Channel's The O'Reilly Factor after host Bill O'Reilly suggested that kidnap victim Shawn Hornbeck came to like his circumstances, according to the online Radar magazine. Radar quoted O'Reilly as saying on his Jan. 15: "The situation here, for this kid, looks to me to be a lot more fun than what he had under his 'old' parents. He didn't have to go to school, he could run around and do whatever he wanted." Radar cited the website News Hounds as saying that viewers who complained about O'Reilly's comments by email, received replies that Lowe's had pulled its ads as of Jan. 25. An FNC spokeswoman said that they had been shifted to other programming.
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