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What was the best Superhero Book or Story Arc?

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I haven't actively collected a superhero title since high school (and that was more than 20 yrs ago), because as much as I may like a character, how good a title is depends a lot on the creative team interpreting that character. Since the creative teams on superhero books (the most popoular and longest running titles in most comic houses' stables) change very often, you get a lot of dreck along with the good stuff. That made me want to buy only the really good stuff; the arcs that stand out. Not so long ago, TPB's were only made out of such arcs; you wouldn't see every arc in a series eventually published as a trade. That was the stuff I'd buy. And it still is. My superhero purchases are few and far between.

I have titles from Marvel & DC's "main universes" in mind more than anything, here. I think "Watchmen" may be the best series ever published, but I'm removing it from my consideration for purposes of this discussion. Feel free to leave it in, if you like. That being said, I think my favorite story arc would have to be "Daredevil: Born Agin". I was never much of a Daredevil fan; I'd buy a book if its cover looked interesting when I was a kid, but that was about it. I didn't think he was anything special either way. Until, that is, I read "Born Again".

Don't get me wrong, "The Dark Knight Returns" , considered by many to be Miller's masterwork, is a great series. But the way he revitalized Daredevil is something to behold. He retold the origin, and even though I knew the story and had seen it told in the book before, spotty as my Daredevil collection was, his take on it was so fresh and well devised that I wasn't bored reading it. His portrayal of the Kingpin was masterful; he became a villain I loved to hate, and not just some silly fat guy, which was how I always perceived him before (I know, the image had been worked on for some time before that in DD & Spidey, but I wasn't actively rading them, and from what little of that I did see, Miller's take here was worlds better anyway). And the way Miller clicked w/ Mazzuchelli's art was nothing short of breathtaking. As Miller says in his afterword, some of Mazzuchelli's best work is done in panels w/ no dialogue; he says a lot w/o the characters saying anything. And he is so right; the panel where Matt Murdoch is hugging the crying Karen paige after he drops the icicle on Paulo's arm makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up. And the fight w/ the Kingpin, after he steals the cop's billy club; wordless, but tense as all hell.

I said in another thread that if I were going to recommend a superhero book to someone who'd never read comics before, this would be the one. It's a mature, realistic, well thought out and beautifully crafted piece of work.

What's your opinion? We'd like to know.
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The Dark Phoenix saga is a great one, not only because of the epic scope and the shocking death (which has been rendered void countless time already), but because it tooks its time developing and happened in a time when you didn't hear it heralded for months before-hand as a huge event. Hell, most story arcs back in the 70s and 80s had the advantage of sneaking up on people instead of being spoiled by Previews and Wizard and the net.

There was also a great arc during David Michelinie and Walt Simonson's run on Star Wars where Luke starts getting close to a fellow Rebel pilot named Shira Brie. Then on a mission in some stolen TIE fighters they get jumped by some Imperials, and Luke uses the Force to tell him which fighters he should fire on. Of course, he shoots down Shira's ship, and suddenly the Alliance's big hero is shunned by everyone. Luke then goes on to discover she was actually an Imperial spy the whole time and that the Force was correct in guiding him to shoot at her ship. There's a great Vader cameo and Simonson's art was amazing (the guy could draw a mean TIE).
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I hold that arc to be the top of my comics experience, as well...insofar as your basic Marvel/DC guys are concerned. I had been collecting DD since the first Miller run with Electra and bullseye and that, but Miller just made Kingpin the baddest of the bad. Case in point...Urich in the newpaper office, trying to get up the nerve to write something and a janitor just looking at him and saying something like "a smart man knows when he's beaten"....proving just how up close and personal the Kingpin's hand could get. Simply beautiful stuff.

I also liked the "Armor Wars" stuff over in Iron Man. I liked it that it wasn't a "punisher"-esque anti-hero fighting your average hero. It was ol' Shell-head, and he ended up fighting some of the big boys. And not because of a "misunderstanding", either. It was straight up "I'm doing this whether you like it or not, bucko". I don't remember there being too many examples of straight out conflict between the good guys before then in that way.

I read comics for decades, beginning in the early to mid-70s. And for a lot of that time I collected various titles. And found some great stuff. But to this day, the single greatest arc I've ever had the pleasure and privilege to read was Gaiman's The Sandman, ish 1-8. His work on establishing that character and title is simply profound on multiple levels and just hit me so hard and so deep that I've never recovered. I've got the full run of that title in trade paperback form now, but getting those first issues by themselves just because (at first) I thought the cover was intriguing led me on a ride I never wanted to get off of.

I love me some Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen and all....but give me Sandman.

edited because it's hard to keep a thought straight when you're getting four kids ready for school
post #4 of 8
Isn't this question asked every week?
post #5 of 8
It's time for a TPB. I'll kill Jean, then you fuck her.

Edit: I'm sorry, I couldn't help it. I'm weak.
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
The Dark Phoenix saga is a great one, not only because of the epic scope and the shocking death (which has been rendered void countless time already), but because it tooks its time developing and happened in a time when you didn't hear it heralded for months before-hand as a huge event. Hell, most story arcs back in the 70s and 80s had the advantage of sneaking up on people instead of being spoiled by Previews and Wizard and the net.
I was never much of an X-Men fan to begin with, and the "Let's bring Phoenix back from the dead" story lines reinforced that for me. I hear you with respect to the spoilers about every arc that comes down the pike now on the net & in Wizard, but there's an easy cure for that: do what I do (as is obvious from some of my posts): don't pay attention. I probably miss out ona lot of good stuff, but nothing's spoiled for me. And the stuff I do end up picking up is recommended by my regularly collecting friends, so it's been "road tested" for me already. Sometimes they even (horror of horrors!) let me borrow a trade so I can test drive it myself. BUt, like it or not, you gotta give credit where it's due, and the Dark Phoenix saga stands out in many peoples' minds as a high water mark for the medium. Maybe I'll buy a trade just for completeness' sake.
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Morrison's run on New X-Men.
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Walter Simonson's Thor run and the first 10 issues of Howard Chaykin's American Flagg!

Everything about AF! Was damn near perfect and that image of Beta Ray slicing through Thor's Logo is what suckered me into the world of comics.
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