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post #1 of 5
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anyone picking this up for ps2 or 360? the only gripe i have is that i heard you can't change player/team names in the 360 version. so i have to play as merseyside red. but online play and achievements... i'm so there.

anyone else?
post #2 of 5

Sorry if you already know this

Winning Eleven is marketed as ISS Pro Evolution (or variants thereof) in the UK and I have picked up a bunch since ISS Pro Evolution arrived for the original Playstation. It's the main competing console football franchise to the EA Sports FIFA behemoth - rather like the "Hits #" versus "Now that's what I call music #" showdown of the 80s and 90s, just with better tunes.

The debate as to which is best tends to polarise, but the historic contrast has been between accurate databases but arcade-feel gameplay and innacurate physics (FIFA) and fudged names, teams and faces but with more involving and immersive gameplay with more accurate "feel" to shots, passes and tactics (Pro Evo/Winning Eleven).

I am a Pro Evo fan - especially since a little bit of patience or an Ebay account can resolve the database problem. I just can't get comfortable with FIFA's tendency to throw ball physics completely out of the window for the sake of drawing an accurate representation of ROoney's ugly mug on screen.

However, in all fairness, I think it all comes down to what you started with and what you're used to. I believe that EA has put a lot of work into trying to match the Pro Evo realism in recent years, and Pro Evo has responded with an attempt to bolt on a strategic, team manager interface and to continually improve the physics and gameplay.

What is certainly true is WE/Pro Evo knocks the shinguards off any other current console football game, so if you're not likely to have the choice between WE and FIFA, then ignore most of what I have just said and go pick up Winning Eleven.

Hope this helps.
post #3 of 5
Have to second that - Pro Evo is leagues (see what I did) ahead of FIFA. It is more like a football 'sim', but with none of the fun compromised. Pick it up!
post #4 of 5
Thread Starter 
i'm just sort of bummed out that the edit features are so gimped. and you can't save your replays... ugh.

but yes, it's an amazing game. you guys getting it for 360? we could get some chewer games together....
post #5 of 5

Someone doesn't like Microsoft

Seems counter-intuitive that they've restricted functionality on the 360 when it is a more powerful machine. I haven't played the last two issues of Pro Evo but you can save replays on all the ones I have owned. Although the editing is a bore, it is comprehensive.

Suspect I'll maintain my household as PS2 only for the time being, at least until the 360 comes down enough in price that I can sneak it under the wedding-saver budget zealously monitored by my other half.

One more tip - turn off the commentary. It's crucifyingly awful.
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