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post #251 of 290
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Not once they witness our love firsthand. They'll be shamed into leaving.

I skipped Bright Eyes and Spoon too. Bright Eyes because Cassadaga did nothing for me, and Spoon because they released possibly my favorite album of the year. (I have no good reason for not seeing Spoon)
I just saw Spoon in July - that's my excuse. They were only okay, but I may just be holding it against them that they didn't play "You Got Yr Cherry Bomb."
post #252 of 290
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Looks like Richard Thompson's 1,000 Years of Popular Music is stopping here in February next year, too. Neat.
REALLY!?!?

EEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeee....
post #253 of 290
The fact no one has mentioned The Kevin Drew album is kinda sad.It's phenomenal stuff.

TBTF,Lucky Ones,Pressure Kids,they're really all great songs.
post #254 of 290
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Originally Posted by Thom Yorkes Eye
The fact no one has mentioned The Kevin Drew album is kinda sad.It's phenomenal stuff.

TBTF,Lucky Ones,Pressure Kids,they're really all great songs.
I've got it, but I ended up with about 15 new albums or something in the last couple weeks, so I haven't been able to develop much of an opinion on it yet. On first listen, it's pretty good, but it shouldn't be surprising to anyone who's ever heard Broken Social Scene. It's a nice mix of the styles from You Forgot It in People and the self-titled one, but, unfortunately, it seems to get its self-indulgent tendencies from the latter - a number of the songs go on too long for my taste. It's still pretty decent, though.

Other newish stuff I'm liking:

Springsteen's Magic
Now, I'm not a huge Born in the U.S.A. fan, but I acknowledge that it suffers mainly due to overplay and bad production. With that in mind, I'm prepared to say that Magic is easily his best album of original rock songs since Born in the U.S.A. I'm not sure if I'd have this reaction if I'd just heard "Dancin' in the Dark" or "Glory Days" for the first time and not the 10 billionth time. I'm not prepared to say that the songs on Magic are as good as anything on Born in the U.S.A. But the feel and the sound are terrific - it's his most River-like album in years. But let's just say the competition hasn't been all that stiff, even if the playing has been from time to time (hello there, The Rising).

The Long Blondes - Someone to Drive You Home
I've had this one sitting around for a few weeks, but I finally gave it a real shot yesterday. Nice, noisy pop, but distinguished by a slight 50s vibe and vocals that hover somewhere between throaty Concrete Blonde/Dresden Dolls territory and Sleater-Kinney melodic screaminess.

M.I.A. - Kala
I wasn't really sold on Arular, but any artist bold enough to stretch out a New Order bassline to near unrecognizability, stick a Pixies chorus over it, and accent it with a vocal line that's as much East Indian as vocoder - well, let's say she has my interest. I'm finding Kala to be an incredibly dense listen that only works for certain moods, but the sheer ballsiness of it keeps it blasting in my car.

P.J. Harvey - White Chalk
This merits many more listens, but wow. I'm not sure if I like the direction Harvey takes on this album, but it features her most dramatic stylistic change since To Bring You My Love, and it makes that leap look tiny by comparison. It's the Polly and Piano Show here - minimal instrumentation and Harvey singing melancholy songs almost exclusively in a high range that renders her just vaguely recognizable.

Josh Ritter - the Historical Conquests of Josh Ritter
I wish I could compare this to his previous albums, but Ritter's completely new to me, though I've heard the name for years. A friend sprung this on me a few days ago, and it grabbed me on first listen. It's terrific singer-songwriter pop that splits the difference between Dylan-esque folkiness and Spoon-style indie rock.
post #255 of 290
I'm worried about the new PJ record, but I own every single once, so why not? I find that after a few months I end up listening to them a lot more than I ever thought I would. (With the exception of To Bring You My Love, which had me at hello).

Anyone else digging A Place To Bury Strangers? Very interesting record...
post #256 of 290
It took me a bit to get into Stories From the City, which I like for how she expanded her sensibilities (even if it doesn't get to the core), but the last one made Is This Desire look better, which I didn't think was possible.

I would compare Drew's solo album to Thom Yorke's The Eraser. There's good in there, but both define indulgence.
post #257 of 290
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Originally Posted by Andre Dellamorte
It took me a bit to get into Stories From the City, which I like for how she expanded her sensibilities (even if it doesn't get to the core), but the last one made Is This Desire look better, which I didn't think was possible.
Yeah, I like to think that Uh Huh Her, which sounded like a bad, de-clawed version of the rockier stuff from Stories from the City (still possibly my favorite, although Rid of Me has a visceral appeal that she's never quite duplicated since), is partially what made her go in this new direction.
post #258 of 290
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Originally Posted by The LD
On a cheerier note, has anyone been listening to Jens Lekman's new single, "Friday Night at the Drive-In Bingo"? It's the single best track I've heard in...god knows how long. Years!
I scanned the thread for mentions of Lekman, and I noticed this. If you like that song, prepare to absolutely adore the new album. Night Falls Over Kortedala shouldn't be a huge surprise to anyone who's heard Lekman before, but it's way more consistent than Oh You're So Silent Jens (as good as some of the tracks like "Black Cab" were, who the heck puts out an EP and singles compilation as a second release?) and more assured and mature-sounding than When I Said I Wanted to Be Your Dog. "Friday Night" is terrific, and it's not even one of the best songs on it.
post #259 of 290
Yeah, I pre-ordered the new album on the Secretly Canadian website to get the acoustic digital EP. I still haven't listened to it (long story), but I'm really excited for the new album.
post #260 of 290
I've been listening to the Dirty Projector's new album, Rise Above. It's not only named after a song of the old Black Flag album Damaged, it's a whole new reinterpretation of it. And it's really really interesting. Anyone caught this?

And LD, please let us know if The Pipettes are worth seeing live.

EDIT: Just so I'm clear, Rise Above is a reinterpretation of the entire Black Flag album, minus 2 or 3 songs. Turning a punk-rock album as harsh as that into what it now sounds is by itself a mighty piece of work. And like Black Flag, you'll either like it or hate it.
post #261 of 290
Absolutely will. I will say, the two-day combination of Iron and Wine/Okkervil River was the best $40 I spent all year.

Also, in the "new CD" thread, I mentioned buying A Fine Frenzy at Owen's recommendation. Gotta suggest nobody else follow that one.
post #262 of 290
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Originally Posted by The LD

Also, in the "new CD" thread, I mentioned buying A Fine Frenzy at Owen's recommendation.

Good for eyes
No good for ears.
post #263 of 290
The new Les Savy Fav is great! This band never really clicked with me before but after Let's Stay Friends I want to go back and review their older material.

Also, here's a different perspective on White Chalk that has me a little more excited about it. Slant's usually pretty tough, so if they like it they probably have a pretty good reason.
post #264 of 290
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The new Les Savy Fav is great! This band never really clicked with me before but after Let's Stay Friends I want to go back and review their older material.
I liked about half of Inches, but their other stuff never grabbed me that much. Might have to hear the new one.

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Also, here's a different perspective on White Chalk that has me a little more excited about it. Slant's usually pretty tough, so if they like it they probably have a pretty good reason.
It's an album that impresses by sheer ballsiness, but I'm finding it a hard one to listen to. I wouldn't be surprised if she called it "White Chalk" because of its abrasiveness, in fact. She hits some very unsettling notes that might even have you scrambling to turn the stereo down.
post #265 of 290
I curiously took a listen to the Foo Fighters' latest album. Ugh. It was my final realization that they should just call it quits. It couldn't have been any more moderately mainstream and straightforwardly unimaginative.

Anyone listen to the new Sunset Rubdown? I know it's out on Tuesday, but I remember really enjoying parts of SHUT UP I AM DREAMING.
post #266 of 290
I just got my copy of Jens Lekman's Night Falls Over Kortedala. It's amazing the authenticity and warmth that he manages to get into his songs, the vast majority of which are basically simulacra of American pop styles of the last 60 or so years. (Disclaimer: I know he loves his samples, but anything sampled is obscure enough that I don't recognize it on a first listen)

The songs to listen to are "The Opposite of Hallelujah", "Kanske Ar Jag Kar I Dig", "Friday Night at the Drive-In Bingo" and...others that I can't remember just looking at the tracklist.

Very, very strong album.
post #267 of 290
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The songs to listen to are "The Opposite of Hallelujah", "Kanske Ar Jag Kar I Dig", "Friday Night at the Drive-In Bingo" and...others that I can't remember just looking at the tracklist.
"A Postcard to Nina"!

Yeah, he does a superb job of keeping his samples unidentifiable. It's so weird, because you don't think of songwriters like him sampling in this way. Even after listening to a song of his, it doesn't occur to me that the instrumental tracks were largely patched together. It's even weirder that he and his almost comically attractive all-female backup band are able to duplicate the sound live.

I think I recognized a drum cue (seriously - not even a whole beat, but a little fill), but I can't remember which song it was in or what exactly it was that he sampled.
post #268 of 290
One of the songs I was trying to think of basically re-works the music to "Maple Leaves", which I thought was really interesting.

Given the chance, I'd love to excise that little portion of the album about shy people...it ruins the flow of the song.

I'm seeing Lekman later this month. The concept of his comically attractive all-female backing band has my full attention.
post #269 of 290
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"A Postcard to Nina"!

Yeah, he does a superb job of keeping his samples unidentifiable. It's so weird, because you don't think of songwriters like him sampling in this way. Even after listening to a song of his, it doesn't occur to me that the instrumental tracks were largely patched together. It's even weirder that he and his almost comically attractive all-female backup band are able to duplicate the sound live.
This sounds disappointing to me. One of the reasons I enjoyed You're So Silent, Jens so much was picking out a few distinguishable samples and marveling at how Lekman used them (the Avalanches beat that was used on Maple Leaves or the flue line lifted from Belle and Sebastian). It was like a fun mini-game hidden within the great songs.

Still, I'm really looking forward to picking this up on Tuesday.
post #270 of 290
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This sounds disappointing to me. One of the reasons I enjoyed You're So Silent, Jens so much was picking out a few distinguishable samples and marveling at how Lekman used them (the Avalanches beat that was used on Maple Leaves or the flue line lifted from Belle and Sebastian). It was like a fun mini-game hidden within the great songs.

Still, I'm really looking forward to picking this up on Tuesday.
I never picked those out on You're So Silent, Jens, either. Maybe I wasn't really paying that close attention, since his songs usually don't sound sampled to me, aside from the odd scratchy record sound here and there.

This is a stronger release than You're So Silent, Jens, IMO, but it's not all that radical a departure. If you like one, you'll probably like the other.
post #271 of 290
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This is a stronger release than You're So Silent, Jens, IMO, but it's not all that radical a departure. If you like one, you'll probably like the other.
Agreed. It feels a little less spontaneous, but it flows together very well. The biggest difference in my eyes is that Lekman benefits from more uptempo material.
post #272 of 290
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I've been listening to the Dirty Projector's new album, Rise Above. It's not only named after a song of the old Black Flag album Damaged, it's a whole new reinterpretation of it. And it's really really interesting. Anyone caught this?
Yeah, I've been listening to this album, and it's really great. I've never heard of this band before. Does all their stuff sound like this?
post #273 of 290
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I think I recognized a drum cue (seriously - not even a whole beat, but a little fill), but I can't remember which song it was in or what exactly it was that he sampled.
On second thought, it's super-identifiable, since it kicks off the song in both the original and Lekman's song. It's the intro fill to Bowie's "Young Americans" (slightly slowed down, I think) on "If I Could Cry (It Would Feel Like This)."
post #274 of 290
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Yeah, I've been listening to this album, and it's really great. I've never heard of this band before. Does all their stuff sound like this?
The Getty Address is even better... guys' brilliant.

The new Underworld is amazing, as to be expected. Just got back from a trip to NYC to see them live in central park, so needless to say I'm all over this one.

Also really digging 'Le Loup' and the new Octopus Project, David Thomas Broughton, and Six Organs of Admittance LPs.

In the more straightforward realm, digging on Frightened Rabbit, a scottish indie rock group, and Pseudosix... the latter drawing some (moderatley) legit comparisons to Wilco.
post #275 of 290
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The Getty Address is even better... guys' brilliant.

The new Underworld is amazing, as to be expected. Just got back from a trip to NYC to see them live in central park, so needless to say I'm all over this one.

Also really digging 'Le Loup' and the new Octopus Project, David Thomas Broughton, and Six Organs of Admittance LPs.

In the more straightforward realm, digging on Frightened Rabbit, a scottish indie rock group, and Pseudosix... the latter drawing some (moderatley) legit comparisons to Wilco.
Thanks for the recommendations. I am going to check most of these guys out.
post #276 of 290
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The new Les Savy Fav is great! This band never really clicked with me before but after Let's Stay Friends I want to go back and review their older material.
I concur. It actually took a few listens for it to grab me, but now I love it as much, if not more than Inches.

And in a week and a half, another band on French Kiss Records, Fatal Flying Guilloteens, have a new one coming out. This is actually my most anticipated album this year. Garage punk with a hint of Jesus Lizard/Drive Like Jehu. Amazing band live. No leak yet, but check out their MySpace. And no, I am not in the band, nor am I any of the band member's mother.
post #277 of 290
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Originally Posted by Winjer
The Getty Address is even better... guys' brilliant.

The new Underworld is amazing, as to be expected. Just got back from a trip to NYC to see them live in central park, so needless to say I'm all over this one.

Also really digging 'Le Loup' and the new Octopus Project, David Thomas Broughton, and Six Organs of Admittance LPs.

In the more straightforward realm, digging on Frightened Rabbit, a scottish indie rock group, and Pseudosix... the latter drawing some (moderatley) legit comparisons to Wilco.
Cool. I'd never heard of any of these artists/bands before, but sampled most of them. Some quality stuff in there. Thanks for having some interesting and worthwhile recommendations.
post #278 of 290
Yeah... I wish I had the time or energy to give you better, more regular recommendations and descriptions... someone needs to pay me to be a music critic.

Anyway... I'll try and keep my flow of random and sparse name-dropping if you're willing to search em out... I know good music, that much is certain.

I'll add one that deserves it: New Raising the Fawn is just great... if you don't know em', Broken Social Scene side project (they existed before but you get the point...)... the best stuff coming out of that whole ridiculously prolific collective imho... all 3 albums are quite essential.
post #279 of 290
After two straight listens, the new Sunset Rubdown (Random Spirit Lover) has moved to near the top of my best of the year list, despite what DaveB will probably think of it!
post #280 of 290
Agreed... definitely at the top of my year next to Animal Collective, Okkervil, and a few others... seein' them before the month's up and can't wait.
post #281 of 290
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After two straight listens, the new Sunset Rubdown (Random Spirit Lover) has moved to near the top of my best of the year list, despite what DaveB will probably think of it!
It's okay. I think I like it better than the last one, actually, but Krug still hasn't improved on his contributions to Apologies to the Queen Mary. I get why people like Captain Warbly's output, but I don't get why people love it.

You're one listen up on me, though. Maybe this one'll actually grow on me.
post #282 of 290
I know I mentioned this earlier, but the Ghost is Dancing's The Darkest Spark, I bought earlier on a whim is really, really enjoyable. For people looking for something similar to The Arcade Fire (but not quite as dense and rich) and Architecture in Helsinki (In Case We Die era), I would enthusiastically recommend this CD.
post #283 of 290
I highly recommend NinjaTune's recently unearthed 60s pysch-rock album by "The Dragons" called 'BFI'.... just got it yesterday and really digging it... more later.
post #284 of 290
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It's okay. I think I like it better than the last one, actually, but Krug still hasn't improved on his contributions to Apologies to the Queen Mary. I get why people like Captain Warbly's output, but I don't get why people love it.
You can't deny that this one features much more complex songwriting (the whole thing is one giant song suite with similar themes popping up in different forms in different songs) and is better produced (with a more epic sound, courtesy of the guy from The Besnard Lakes).

I think you might be using too much of a Wolf Parade comparison. They're very different bands and I'm not sure it's fair to hold him up to Queen Mary. He's trying to do something different here.

Then again, I can understand how people could find his voice annoying (I love it...it's naked, emotional and earnest) and find some of his fanciful lyrics irritating (what with the leopards and princes and kings and captures and morticians and whores showing up over and over again).

But after many more listens, (I love this so much, I haven't been able to give the new Jens a fair shake) it's probably right at the top of my best of the year. It's an unusual album for these days, as it's best enjoyed as an ALBUM, listening to the whole thing straight through. They don't make 'em like this anymore.
post #285 of 290
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It's an unusual album for these days, as it's best enjoyed as an ALBUM, listening to the whole thing straight through. They don't make 'em like this anymore.
I feel like I still have to listen to the new Sunset Rubdown to comment on it, specifically, but I'd argue that they still do "make 'em like this."

Even if you don't count the obvious concept albums like Of Montreal's Hissing Fauna... or the abovementioned Dirty Projectors album (thanks, Z-Man and Winjer), Okkervil River's the Stage Names hangs together like a near-concept album. Over the last few years, the Liars, Sufjan Stevens, and others have put out great album-length pieces that are more than merely the sum of their parts. The death of the album has been overstated, I think.
post #286 of 290
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Yeah, I've been listening to this album, and it's really great. I've never heard of this band before. Does all their stuff sound like this?
Pretty much. Like Winjer stated, The Getty Address is the best you can get from the guy (it's mainly a one-man band). The other albums are primarily collections of EP, like Slaves' Graves & Ballads, which has the orchestral elements you probably like on Rise Above.
post #287 of 290
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I feel like I still have to listen to the new Sunset Rubdown to comment on it, specifically, but I'd argue that they still do "make 'em like this."
Sure, but you can't deny a majority of albums released today (some even very good) aren't intended for single listens. Even some of the ones you listed, while very good concept albums (or concept album creators) aren't composed of complicates song suites that compliment each other so well that listening to single tracks weakens the experience. Last time I heard an album like this was The Fiery Furnaces Blueberry Boat. But then again, you don't like that band either. I think I'm sensing a pattern! Heh.
post #288 of 290
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Sure, but you can't deny a majority of albums released today (some even very good) aren't intended for single listens. Even some of the ones you listed, while very good concept albums (or concept album creators) aren't composed of complicates song suites that compliment each other so well that listening to single tracks weakens the experience. Last time I heard an album like this was The Fiery Furnaces Blueberry Boat. But then again, you don't like that band either. I think I'm sensing a pattern! Heh.
I don't dislike all of Krug's stuff, though. In fact, the album of his that I hate the most is Swan Lake, for which I hold Dan Bejar (a guy whose albums I often love) equally responsible. I just see a lot of fallibility there, whereas some seem to eat up virtually anything the guy puts out, regardless of quality.

I liked Blueberry Boat when I got it, for what it's worth. It eventually ended up grating after a number of listens, and I probably seem a lot more sour on them than I actually am, if only because, as with Krug, the accolades heaped on them seem excessive to me.

I honestly have no idea how you hear a more integrated experience in Random Spirit Lover or Blueberry Boat than in Hissing Fauna and Drum's Not Dead. Blueberry Boat's suites were pretty self-contained - there are essential songs on the two I mentioned that are practically just fragments removed from context.
post #289 of 290
I guess I'm probably overstating things. I LOVE both Hissing Fauna and Drum's Not Dead, but I don't really think of them as containing song suites (although clearly they're both concept albums). Which two tracks were you thinking of?
post #290 of 290
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I guess I'm probably overstating things. I LOVE both Hissing Fauna and Drum's Not Dead, but I don't really think of them as containing song suites (although clearly they're both concept albums). Which two tracks were you thinking of?
The first three songs on "Hissing Fauna" are basically a suite (in the loose, rock context of the word - I can't attest to them being in the same key, etc., as one might in evaluating a classical suite). I'm not sure how these are arranged live, but on the album, "Sink the Seine" is barely a song, but a bridge between "Suffer for Fashion" and "Cato as a Pun." A bunch of the tracks on that album transition directly into the next in such a way that suggests this was a plan from the outset and not some post-recording decision.

With "Drum's Not Dead," it seems like just about every song is part of the whole. A number of them forego conventional song structures and you only get the dynamic payoff in juxtaposition with the other tracks. For instance, would you put "You, Drum" on a mix disc?

For better or worse, the songs on Random Spirit Lover seem more self-contained. They may sound better in context, but, to me, their effectiveness doesn't seem quite as dependent on it. That is, if you removed a few tracks from Random Spirit Lover and replaced them with tracks from Shut Up I Am Dreaming, I just don't get what the big deal would be.
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